Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A confession

2005-12-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 15:56:10 +0100, Benno Schulenberg wrote: > > A mixed system is not stable. > > Huh? You mean to say that a mixed system is likely to have hiccups? I mean it is not "stable" as in not x86, amd64, ppc etc. If a system has ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86" in make.conf and a whole bunch o

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A confession

2005-12-21 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 20:11:30 +0100, Benno Schulenberg wrote: > > If everyone ran either full stable or full testing, how are > > problems that occur when one the testing packages makes it to > > stable going to be detected? By the ones running stable. :( > > So, mixed syst

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A confession

2005-12-21 Thread John Jolet
On Dec 21, 2005, at 2:55 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: A mixed system is not stable. I doubt many people run all stable save for one package, not that there's anything wrong with that. But when you have a lot of packages in package.keywords, you're best of switching to a full testing system,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A confession

2005-12-21 Thread Martin S
Mmm, perhaps I'll try running a pure ~x86 after all.Finally am getting back up again...Regards,Martin S

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A confession

2005-12-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 07:16:21 -0400, Robin wrote: > > But when you > > have a lot of packages in package.keywords, you're best of switching > > to a full testing system, IMO. > That is a pretty bold statement. A lot of packages are masked just > because they are "untested" on a particular archite

[gentoo-user] Re: A confession

2005-12-21 Thread Robin
> > Neil Bothwick wrote: > But when you > have a lot of packages in package.keywords, you're best of switching to a > full testing system, IMO. > That is a pretty bold statement. A lot of packages are masked just because they are "untested" on a particular architecture, and sometimes you need tha

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A confession

2005-12-21 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 20 December 2005 20:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Thanks for the good comments as usual Richard. But I can't resist this: > > I guess this depends on your reasons for going ~x86. If it is to > > avoid compiling, well, that is a bad reason, > > I'

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A confession

2005-12-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 20:11:30 +0100, Benno Schulenberg wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > Most of the reported problems with > > testing packages seem to be from people running mixed > > stable/testing systems. > > Just a hunch, or do you keep numbers? An impression, much more than a hunch,m but n

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A confession

2005-12-20 Thread Chris Fairles
Richard Fish wrote: On 12/20/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I just started running with ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" in /etc/make.conf and decided to let the chips fall where they may. At least I don't have to fiddle around with a mixture of stable and masked. I doubt that above

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A confession

2005-12-20 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Neil Bothwick wrote: > Most of the reported problems with > testing packages seem to be from people running mixed > stable/testing systems. Just a hunch, or do you keep numbers? > If everyone ran stable, how stable would it be with no testing? If everyone ran either full stable or full testing,

[gentoo-user] Re: A confession

2005-12-20 Thread reader
Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Thanks for the good comments as usual Richard. But I can't resist this: > I guess this depends on your reasons for going ~x86. If it is to > avoid compiling, well, that is a bad reason, I'd rather set my hair on fire than compile kde, and I'm bald :

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A confession

2005-12-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 08:56:31 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I just started running with ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" in /etc/make.conf > and decided to let the chips fall where they may. At least I don't > have to fiddle around with a mixture of stable and masked. > I doubt that above would be seen

[gentoo-user] Re: A confession

2005-12-20 Thread reader
Dirk Heinrichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Why not? I do run ~x86 on several machines now for over a year, with only > minor problems. Of course, you'll run into bugs (mostly compilation > problems) from time to time, but that doesn't matter so much (at least for > me). I usually file a bug (

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A confession

2005-12-20 Thread Richard Fish
On 12/20/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just started running with ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" in /etc/make.conf > and decided to let the chips fall where they may. At least I don't > have to fiddle around with a mixture of stable and masked. > I doubt that above would be seen as v

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A confession

2005-12-20 Thread Rumen Yotov
On (20/12/05 16:15), Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > Am Dienstag, 20. Dezember 2005 15:56 schrieb ext > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > > I just started running with ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" in /etc/make.conf > > and decided to let the chips fall where they may. At least I don't > > have to fiddle around with a mi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A confession

2005-12-20 Thread Martin S
If only I know where I went wrong ;-)I upgraded to KDE 3.5 beta 1 at one time, later (after a emerge -u world/system or three) I upgraded to KDE 3.5 proper.After this I noticed that "nothing" "worked". No sound, no USB, no DVD player (the one thing that *did* work on Kubuntu was sound).Various apps

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A confession

2005-12-20 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Dienstag, 20. Dezember 2005 15:56 schrieb ext [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > I just started running with ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" in /etc/make.conf > and decided to let the chips fall where they may. At least I don't > have to fiddle around with a mixture of stable and masked. > I doubt that above would

[gentoo-user] Re: A confession

2005-12-20 Thread reader
Martin S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] I recently did something similar only never got past thining I might do it I too had gotten my OS pretty unstable by not really understanding how keywording etc worked. I still don't really fully get it but I came back thinking I'd stay with stable