Re: problems with slack and zoom: Was: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-27 Thread Jack
On 2020.04.27 12:47, Jorge Almeida wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 4:27 PM Jack wrote: > I just checked "emerge -pe zoom" and the only unstable qt listed is qtdiag, which has no stable versions in the tree. In fact, of the 483 packages listed, only five are unstable. If it pulls in lots

Re: problems with slack and zoom: Was: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-27 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 4:27 PM Jack wrote: > > > I just checked "emerge -pe zoom" and the only unstable qt listed is > qtdiag, which has no stable versions in the tree. In fact, of the 483 > packages listed, only five are unstable. If it pulls in lots of > unstable qt for you, I'd try to

Re: problems with slack and zoom: Was: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-27 Thread Jack
On 2020.04.26 19:42, Jorge Almeida wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 12:03 AM Jack wrote: > On 2020.04.26 18:22, Jorge Almeida wrote: The slack ebuild might go stable, but the zoom one seems to change too often to last 30 days before an update, so stable seems unlikely. At least I don't

Re: problems with slack and zoom: Was: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-26 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 12:03 AM Jack wrote: > > On 2020.04.26 18:22, Jorge Almeida wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 8:28 PM Jack > > wrote: > > > > The slack ebuild might go stable, but the zoom one seems to change too > often to last 30 days before an update, so stable seems unlikely. At >

Re: problems with slack and zoom: Was: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-26 Thread Jack
On 2020.04.26 18:22, Jorge Almeida wrote: On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 8:28 PM Jack wrote: > > On 2020.04.26 15:08, Jorge Almeida wrote: > [snip] > I run a mostly stable amd64 system with selected ~amd64 packages. I > use both slack and zoom reasonably often, and have not had any install

Re: problems with slack and zoom: Was: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-26 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 8:28 PM Jack wrote: > > On 2020.04.26 15:08, Jorge Almeida wrote: > [snip] > I run a mostly stable amd64 system with selected ~amd64 packages. I > use both slack and zoom reasonably often, and have not had any install > related problems. (I don't necessarily TRUST

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-26 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 1:50 PM Jorge Almeida wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 9:23 PM Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 1:06 PM Jorge Almeida wrote: > > > > > > Some reading I did about people having problems similar to yours with discord and zoom suggested that some

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-26 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 9:23 PM Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 1:06 PM Jorge Almeida wrote: > > > Some reading I did about people having problems similar to yours with discord > and zoom suggested that some of these aps are compiled to __only__ support > pulseaudio and

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-26 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 1:06 PM Jorge Almeida wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 8:34 PM Mark Knecht wrote: > > I'll investigate what I can do sending files by hand. However on the USB only machine all the internal sound card hardware is blacklisted so modules aren't loaded. I don't know that I

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-26 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 8:34 PM Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 12:09 PM Jorge Almeida wrote: > > > > > > Since you use pulseaudio (per your latest post): can you send the > > contents of a wav file to an external DAC via toslink, without > > pulseaudio messing with the file?

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-26 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 12:09 PM Jorge Almeida wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 5:58 PM Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > > > > Mark, > > I recompiled the kernel with more stuff as module, but I just had an > idea to make sure the Behringer is the only card in the game: I > disabled HD audio in the

problems with slack and zoom: Was: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-26 Thread Jack
On 2020.04.26 15:08, Jorge Almeida wrote: [snip] I'll keep searching for some audio chat package that works. mumble seems promising, but it requires an available server. zoom (which most people @work use) doesn't emerge. slack does emerge and vomits a totally unresponsive window (well,

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-26 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 5:58 PM Mark Knecht wrote: > > > Mark, I recompiled the kernel with more stuff as module, but I just had an idea to make sure the Behringer is the only card in the game: I disabled HD audio in the firmware settings. So: both Opera and Chrome play Youtube. aplay plays

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-26 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 5:31 AM Jorge Almeida wrote: > > Well, this is the current state of affairs: > > --recording with "arecord -r 48 -fdat test.wav works > --playback "aplay test.wav" works > --playing a music file foo.wav with aplay works > --playing youtube doesn't work > --playing the

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-26 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 12:16 AM Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > How do you feel about building Alsa as modules instead of building it into > the kernel? When using modules you can blacklist other sound cards (the MB > audio stuff for instance) and you get a little more visibility into what's is >

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-25 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 12:16 AM Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > You sound happier in this post. I hope we're making headway. Could you post > back a view of things at this point? > I wouldn't say happy, but at least I got to understand what the interface does (I was more or less convinced the RCA

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-25 Thread Mark Knecht
> One word: AHA! (It makes a lot of difference, knowing what one is doing!) > This is the explanation the interface should come with, or at least > they should have a site with a simple diagram. > > Yes, I can hear sound with the headphones connected to the headphone > out in the interface, as

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-25 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 2:19 PM Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > > > > > https://www.amazon.de/dp/B00EK1OTZC/ref=pe_3044161_189395811_TE_SCE_dp_1 > > > > > > OK, that device is pretty simple. If you set this device as the default > > > Alsa device can you get simple audio, from YouTube for example,

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-25 Thread Mark Knecht
> > > https://www.amazon.de/dp/B00EK1OTZC/ref=pe_3044161_189395811_TE_SCE_dp_1 > > > > OK, that device is pretty simple. If you set this device as the default Alsa device can you get simple audio, from YouTube for example, out through the headphone jack? We know the mic input works. If both of

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-25 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 1:19 AM Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > > I hope you don't have to. I'm not the least bit confident about how a virtual > card is going to work with VM like Virtualbox. OK, that > > > > > > > I don't think I ever saw the name of the actual USB interface you're > > > using.

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-24 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 4:17 PM Jorge Almeida wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 11:46 PM Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Do you have a Window license you can run in a VM? I suspect that might work pretty well. I used to run Go2Meeting that way and never had any trouble. > > > > > > I

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-24 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 11:46 PM Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > > > Do you have a Window license you can run in a VM? I suspect that might > > > work pretty well. I used to run Go2Meeting that way and never had any > > > trouble. > > > > I think I'm entitled to an unexpensive licence @work. Maybe

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-24 Thread Mark Knecht
> > Do you have a Window license you can run in a VM? I suspect that might work pretty well. I used to run Go2Meeting that way and never had any trouble. > > I think I'm entitled to an unexpensive licence @work. Maybe that's the > solution, such as it is. I bought micro+interface specifically for

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-24 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 7:08 PM Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > > Do you have a Window license you can run in a VM? I suspect that might work > pretty well. I used to run Go2Meeting that way and never had any trouble. I think I'm entitled to an unexpensive licence @work. Maybe that's the solution,

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-24 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 10:21 AM Jorge Almeida wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 6:11 PM Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I __ONLY__ meant for testing purposes. I understand discord is the result we are working toward. Right now I don't know what the root cause of the failure is so

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-24 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 6:11 PM Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > I __ONLY__ meant for testing purposes. I understand discord is the result we > are working toward. Right now I don't know what the root cause of the failure > is so testing some other app and discovering it works would tell us the >

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-24 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 10:04 AM Jorge Almeida wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 5:27 PM Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > > > > > >If it's true that discord is so picky then I wonder if there would be some value in testing your virtual sound card with some other app to ensure that at least the

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-24 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 5:27 PM Mark Knecht wrote: > > > >If it's true that discord is so picky then I wonder if there would be some > value in testing your virtual sound card with some other app to ensure that > at least the basic Alsa needs are being met? > >

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-24 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 6:36 AM Jorge Almeida wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 2:06 PM Michael wrote: > > > > > > > I understand discord also offers a webRTC service, which ought to work with a > > browser - so it should be down to the browser to communicate with Alsa. > > Been there, tried

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-24 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 2:06 PM Michael wrote: > > > I understand discord also offers a webRTC service, which ought to work with a > browser - so it should be down to the browser to communicate with Alsa. Been there, tried that... > Assuming of course the webRTC implementation by

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-24 Thread Michael
On Friday, 24 April 2020 12:13:53 BST Jorge Almeida wrote: > On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 11:39 AM Michael wrote: > > Applications can be rather particular regarding bitrate, bit sample > > formats, channel configuration and other options. I understand Firefox > > wants to have 48000Hz or it won't

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-24 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 11:39 AM Michael wrote: > > > Applications can be rather particular regarding bitrate, bit sample formats, > channel configuration and other options. I understand Firefox wants to have > 48000Hz or it won't play. So, even if your DAC can do 96000Hz, you may need > to

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-24 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 23 April 2020 20:01:51 BST Jorge Almeida wrote: > I need the "virtual" card to be the default, so I did this: > > pcm.mbcard{ > type hw > card PCH > device 1 > } > ctl.mbcard{ > type hw > card 0 > } > pcm.usbcard{ > type hw > card CODEC > device 0 > } > pcm.output{ > type plug >

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-23 Thread Matt Connell (Gmail)
On 2020-04-23 16:07, Jorge Almeida wrote: Does it allow you to send the contents of a wav file to an external DAC without first messing with the contents? As I understand it, (and someone please correct me if I am wrong), Pulse is a layer of abstraction over alsa. So if you can do that with

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-23 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 9:39 PM Matt Connell (Gmail) wrote: > > This is becoming more common over time; I gave up on trying to avoid > Pulse a few years ago. > :/ Does it allow you to send the contents of a wav file to an external DAC without first messing with the contents? Thanks Jorge

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-23 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 9:11 PM Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 12:02 PM Jorge Almeida wrote: > > > > > > I need the "virtual" card to be the default, so I did this: > > > > Did you attempt making the virtual card default by defining it in > /etc/asound.conf? I'm not sure how

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-23 Thread Matt Connell (Gmail)
On 2020-04-23 14:01, Jorge Almeida wrote: What I cannot do is to coax discord into working. Maybe discord doesn't expect ALSA's defaults after all? Anyone familiar with discord? (No gamers?) From this forum post, it appears Discord only works with pulseaudio.

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-23 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 12:02 PM Jorge Almeida wrote: > > > I need the "virtual" card to be the default, so I did this: > Did you attempt making the virtual card default by defining it in /etc/asound.conf? I'm not sure how Alsa will feel about doing that but I think that's probably preferred if

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-23 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 5:54 PM Michael wrote: > > > > > > > The setup: > > > > > -- a microphone connected to an audio interface, which connects to an > > > > > USB port in the computer. The interface works like a USB sound card, > > > > > at least regarding sound capture. It works: I can

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-23 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 2:38 PM Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 12:04 AM Jorge Almeida wrote: > > > > (And, if memory serves, you were one of the first persons to help me, > > in a sound related question, many years ago!) > > > > Well, I Can only hope I was nice! ;-) :) >

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-23 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 23 April 2020 10:46:29 BST Jorge Almeida wrote: > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 9:19 AM Michael wrote: > > I recall you having problems recording with this device before, but since > > you're now a step ahead let's have another go at this, in case I may be > > able to help. > > Yes, this

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-23 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 12:04 AM Jorge Almeida wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 1:42 AM Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > Jorge, > >Sorry for top posting. I'm at a site with limited capabilities at the moment. Please forgive. > > Forgiving someone for trying to help me? :) > (And, if memory

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-23 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 9:19 AM Michael wrote: > > I recall you having problems recording with this device before, but since > you're now a step ahead let's have another go at this, in case I may be able > to help. Yes, this is not the same issue (the former problem was: I wasn't getting

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-23 Thread Michael
I recall you having problems recording with this device before, but since you're now a step ahead let's have another go at this, in case I may be able to help. > On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 2:57 PM Jorge Almeida wrote: > > ... desperately needed. > > > > The setup: > > -- a microphone connected

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-23 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 1:42 AM Mark Knecht wrote: > > Jorge, >Sorry for top posting. I'm at a site with limited capabilities at the > moment. Please forgive. Forgiving someone for trying to help me? :) (And, if memory serves, you were one of the first persons to help me, in a sound related

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-22 Thread Mark Knecht
Jorge, Sorry for top posting. I'm at a site with limited capabilities at the moment. Please forgive. I'm slightly confused by the question but before I get into that please provide the output of cat /proc/asound/cards cat /proc/asound/modules What desktop environment are you using? What

[gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

2020-04-22 Thread Jorge Almeida
... desperately needed. The setup: -- a microphone connected to an audio interface, which connects to an USB port in the computer. The interface works like a USB sound card, at least regarding sound capture. It works: I can record my voice with arecord into a wav file, and then play the file with