On 2011-11-15 07:21, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
> The purpose of this email is to ask adventurous people here to beta
> test my approach to a udev-less Gentoo. If we don't find any
> showstopper problems, we can think about requesting Gentoo developers to
> support an mdev-based profile. It
On 11/16/2011 06:20 PM, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 09:53:47AM -0500, Michael Mol wrote
>
>> Just an FYI, EDID blocks have been part of CRT tech since the mid to
>> late 90s; it's the basis of "plug & play" monitors.
>>
>> IIRC, the EDID block is transported via DDC, whic
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 09:53:47AM -0500, Michael Mol wrote
> Just an FYI, EDID blocks have been part of CRT tech since the mid to
> late 90s; it's the basis of "plug & play" monitors.
>
> IIRC, the EDID block is transported via DDC, which is essentially I2C
> implemented on top of your VGA cable
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 07:52, Pandu Poluan wrote:
>
> On Nov 16, 2011 3:21 AM, wrote:
>>
>> The more scenarios we can test, the better. mdev might shave a second
>> or two off the VM's bootup time, versus udev.
>>
>
> Okay, I have two staging VMs on XenServer and one on VMware. I'm going to
>
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 07:52, Pandu Poluan wrote:
>
> On Nov 16, 2011 3:21 AM, wrote:
>>
>> The more scenarios we can test, the better. mdev might shave a second
>> or two off the VM's bootup time, versus udev.
>>
>
> Okay, I have two staging VMs on XenServer and one on VMware. I'm going to
>
I'm using systemd as init. Currently there's no .service file for mdev.
Hope someone on this list can provide one :-)
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote:
> Plus, I'm feeling adventurous and will experiment with VirtualBox also ;)
>
> Rgds,
> On Nov 16, 2011 7:52 AM, "Pandu Polu
Plus, I'm feeling adventurous and will experiment with VirtualBox also ;)
Rgds,
On Nov 16, 2011 7:52 AM, "Pandu Poluan" wrote:
>
> On Nov 16, 2011 3:21 AM, wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 02:44:58PM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote
> >
> > > However, my Gentoo systems are all virtual servers (
On Nov 16, 2011 3:21 AM, wrote:
>
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 02:44:58PM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote
>
> > However, my Gentoo systems are all virtual servers (DomU VMs on
XenServer).
> > So, the hardware devices are static. Will switching over to mdev give
any
> > benefits?
> >
> > I even am toying ar
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 02:44:58PM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote
> However, my Gentoo systems are all virtual servers (DomU VMs on XenServer).
> So, the hardware devices are static. Will switching over to mdev give any
> benefits?
>
> I even am toying around with the idea of having a completely stati
On Nov 15, 2011 11:43 PM, "Albert W. Hopkins"
wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2011-11-15 at 14:44 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote:
> > However, my Gentoo systems are all virtual servers (DomU VMs on
> > XenServer).
> > So, the hardware devices are static. Will switching over to mdev give
> > any
> > benefits?
> >
>
On Nov 15, 2011 11:19 PM, "Alan McKinnon" wrote:
>
> On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 14:44:58 +0700
> Pandu Poluan wrote:
>
> > > Create the file if it doesn't already exist. You now have a
> > > totally udev-free machine
> > >
> >
> > Sounds nice!
> >
> > However, my Gentoo systems are all virtual servers
On Tue, 2011-11-15 at 14:44 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote:
> However, my Gentoo systems are all virtual servers (DomU VMs on
> XenServer).
> So, the hardware devices are static. Will switching over to mdev give
> any
> benefits?
>
> I even am toying around with the idea of having a completely
> static
On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 14:44:58 +0700
Pandu Poluan wrote:
> > Create the file if it doesn't already exist. You now have a
> > totally udev-free machine
> >
>
> Sounds nice!
>
> However, my Gentoo systems are all virtual servers (DomU VMs on
> XenServer). So, the hardware devices are static. Will
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 1:21 AM, wrote:
> Contrary to the FUD I've heard, X works just fine, thank you, without an
> xorg.conf. Modern flatscreens with EDID info are set up automatically. I
> suppose that old CRT monitors without EDID info might require xorg.conf,
> but that's "exotic hardware"
On Nov 15, 2011 1:24 PM, wrote:
>
> After a recent thread, about udev developers wanting /usr on the same
> partition as / (or else requiring initramfs), it was pretty obvious
> that 90%+ of the users here strongly disliked the idea. I went around
> asking on various lists if it was possible to
After a recent thread, about udev developers wanting /usr on the same
partition as / (or else requiring initramfs), it was pretty obvious
that 90%+ of the users here strongly disliked the idea. I went around
asking on various lists if it was possible to run Gentoo without udev.
After some resear
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