William Kenworthy wrote:
>
> On 11/11/23 05:15, Dale wrote:
>> the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Thelma
>>>
>>> On 9/17/23 23:17, Dale wrote:
Howdy,
This is a work in progress and may take some time, financially if
nothing else. With hindsight, I wish I had done this
On 11/11/23 05:15, Dale wrote:
the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
Thelma
On 9/17/23 23:17, Dale wrote:
Howdy,
This is a work in progress and may take some time, financially if
nothing else. With hindsight, I wish I had done this before the price
of everything went up but some things are
the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
>
>
> Thelma
>
> On 9/17/23 23:17, Dale wrote:
>> Howdy,
>>
>> This is a work in progress and may take some time, financially if
>> nothing else. With hindsight, I wish I had done this before the price
>> of everything went up but some things are getting more
Thelma
On 9/17/23 23:17, Dale wrote:
Howdy,
This is a work in progress and may take some time, financially if
nothing else. With hindsight, I wish I had done this before the price
of everything went up but some things are getting more reasonable. My
first task, a case. At this point, I
On one computer I had it came with an Alien ATX case. If memory serves
that one had a top fan. The only thing I didn't like about that case was
not enough slots for two drive sleds in addition to the dvd burner. Only
one sled could be accommodated.
-- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in
Dale wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> This is a work in progress and may take some time, financially if
> nothing else. With hindsight, I wish I had done this before the price
> of everything went up but some things are getting more reasonable. My
> first task, a case. At this point, I may build a new system
Rich Freeman wrote:
>
> Well, you can, but they don't fit on a tweet. Just my really long emails...
>
> We're not their target demographic in any case. Now, if Dale wanted
> more RGB lights and transparent water hoses, and not more PCIe slots,
> the market would be happy to supply...
>
That
On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 1:05 PM Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
>
> Am Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 11:01:48AM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman:
>
> No, the chipset downlink is always four lanes wide.
The diagram you linked has 8, but I can't vouch for its accuracy.
Haven't looked into it for AM4.
> > Again, that
Am Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 11:01:48AM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman:
> > > The higher-end motherboards have switches, and not all
> > > the lanes may be the highest supported generation, but I don't think
> > > any modern AMD motherboards have any kind of PCIe controller on them.
> >
> > Here are the
On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 10:35 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
>
> Am Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 09:17:45AM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman:
>
> > The higher-end motherboards have switches, and not all
> > the lanes may be the highest supported generation, but I don't think
> > any modern AMD motherboards have
Am Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 09:17:45AM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman:
> > Well they allow you to put larger cards in, but they don’t have the lanes
> > for it. Somewhere else in the thread was mentioned that the number of lanes
> > is very limited. Only the main slot (the big one for the GPU) is
On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 8:26 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
>
> BTW: it’s APU, without the G. Because it is an Accellerated Processing Unit
> (i.e. a processor), not a GPU.
No real "reason" for it besides branding/naming/etc. They could have
called it a MPU for Mixed Processing Unit if they
Am Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 04:43:02AM -0500 schrieb Dale:
> Wols Lists wrote:
> > Oh, and to the best of my knowledge, you can combine a video card and
> > an AGPU.
BTW: it’s APU, without the G. Because it is an Accellerated Processing Unit
(i.e. a processor), not a GPU.
> I been on Newegg using
On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 5:43 AM Dale wrote:
>
> I been on Newegg using their rig builder feature. Just to get rough
> ideas, I picked a AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12-Core 3.7 GHz Socket AM4. Yea, I
> did a copy and paste. lol It's a bit pricey but compared to my current
> rig, I think it will run
On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 10:43:02 BST Dale wrote:
> Wols Lists wrote:
> > On 19/09/2023 00:40, Dale wrote:
> >>> I get it when you wanna do it your way because it always worked™
> >>> (which is
> >>> not wrong — don’t misunderstand me) and perhaps you had some bad
> >>> experience
> >>> in
Wols Lists wrote:
> On 19/09/2023 00:40, Dale wrote:
>>> I get it when you wanna do it your way because it always worked™
>>> (which is
>>> not wrong — don’t misunderstand me) and perhaps you had some bad
>>> experience
>>> in the past. OTOH it’s a pricey component usually only needed by
>>>
On 18/09/2023 11:13, Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
With so many drives, you should also include a pricey power supply. And/or a
server board which supports staggered spin-up. Also, drives of the home NAS
category (and consumer drives anyways) are only certified for operation in
groups of up to
Am Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 01:01:42AM -0500 schrieb Dale:
> They have added a lot of stuff to mobos since I bought one about a
> decade ago. Maybe things have improved. I just like PCIe slots and
> cards. Gives me more options.
I definitely know the feeling. That is why I went with µATX instead
On 18/09/2023 12:16, Rich Freeman wrote:
This is part of why I like storage implementations that have more
robustness built into the software. Granted, it is still only as good
as your clients, but with distributed storage I really don't want to
be paying for ECC on all of my nodes. If the
On 19/09/2023 00:40, Dale wrote:
I get it when you wanna do it your way because it always worked™ (which is
not wrong — don’t misunderstand me) and perhaps you had some bad experience
in the past. OTOH it’s a pricey component usually only needed by gamers and
number crunchers. On-board graphics
On a previous computer, I had an Alien ATX case. The one drawback with
that case was only one drive slot for a DVD drive. I prefer computer
cases with a few more than that so internal drive sleds can be installed.
When onboard cards break, if you have spare pci slots available and spare
cash you
Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> Am Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 06:40:52PM -0500 schrieb Dale:
>
I tend to need quite a few PCIe slots. I like to have my own video
card. I never liked the built in ones.
>>> You’re just asking to be asked. ;-) Why don’t you like them? (I fear I may
>>> have asked
Am Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 06:40:52PM -0500 schrieb Dale:
> >> I tend to need quite a few PCIe slots. I like to have my own video
> >> card. I never liked the built in ones.
> > You’re just asking to be asked. ;-) Why don’t you like them? (I fear I may
> > have asked that before).
> >
> > I get
Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> Am Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 02:20:56PM -0500 schrieb Dale:
>
[…]
The downside, only micro ATX and
mini ITX mobo. This is a serious down vote here.
>>> Why is that bad? µATX comes with up to four PCIe slots. Even for ten
>>> drives,
>>> you only need one
Am Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 02:20:56PM -0500 schrieb Dale:
> >> […]
> >> The downside, only micro ATX and
> >> mini ITX mobo. This is a serious down vote here.
> > Why is that bad? µATX comes with up to four PCIe slots. Even for ten
> > drives,
> > you only need one SATA expander (with four or six
Am Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 02:59:22PM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman:
> > I have a four-bay NAS with server board (ASRock Rack E3C224D2I), actually my
> > last surviving Gentoo system. ;-) With IPMI-Chip (which alone takes several
> > watts), 16 GiB DDR3-ECC, an i3-4170 and 4×6 TB, it draws around
Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> Am Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 12:17:20AM -0500 schrieb Dale:
>> Howdy,
>> […]
>> I've found a few cases that peak my interest depending on which way I go
>> with this. One I found that has a lot of hard drive space and would
>> make a descent NAS box, the Fractal Design Node
On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 9:02 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
>
> Am Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 07:16:17AM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman:
>
> > On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 6:13 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> > >
> > > Am Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 12:17:20AM -0500 schrieb Dale:
>
> > because a NIC is going to need a
Am Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 07:16:17AM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman:
> On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 6:13 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> >
> > Am Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 12:17:20AM -0500 schrieb Dale:
> > > […]
> > > The downside, only micro ATX and
> > > mini ITX mobo. This is a serious down vote here.
> >
>
On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 6:13 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
>
> Am Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 12:17:20AM -0500 schrieb Dale:
> > […]
> > The downside, only micro ATX and
> > mini ITX mobo. This is a serious down vote here.
>
> Why is that bad? µATX comes with up to four PCIe slots. Even for ten drives,
Am Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 12:17:20AM -0500 schrieb Dale:
> Howdy,
> […]
> I've found a few cases that peak my interest depending on which way I go
> with this. One I found that has a lot of hard drive space and would
> make a descent NAS box, the Fractal Design Node 804. It's a cube shaped
> thing
Howdy,
This is a work in progress and may take some time, financially if
nothing else. With hindsight, I wish I had done this before the price
of everything went up but some things are getting more reasonable. My
first task, a case. At this point, I may build a new system in the new
case, or, I
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