Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-25 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Freitag 25 September 2009, Dale wrote: > >> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >> >>> On Freitag 25 September 2009, Dale wrote: >>> I saw where the drive hours was displayed a long time ago. I thought it was hdparm that displayed that but I can't

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-25 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 25 September 2009, Dale wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > On Freitag 25 September 2009, Dale wrote: > >> I saw where the drive hours was displayed a long time ago. I thought it > >> was hdparm that displayed that but I can't find it in the man page and > >> -I doesn't seem to sho

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-25 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:26:12 -0500, Dale wrote: > > >> Weird huh? Can't win either way. Maybe we need a 60 day burn in period >> before being sold. That should help a little at least. >> > > It's cheaper to let the customer do that and cover it under warranty. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:26:12 -0500, Dale wrote: > Weird huh? Can't win either way. Maybe we need a 60 day burn in period > before being sold. That should help a little at least. It's cheaper to let the customer do that and cover it under warranty. -- Neil Bothwick Those who can, do. Those

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-24 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Freitag 25 September 2009, Dale wrote: > >> >> I saw where the drive hours was displayed a long time ago. I thought it >> was hdparm that displayed that but I can't find it in the man page and >> -I doesn't seem to show that. Can someone tell me if there is a w

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-24 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 25 September 2009, Dale wrote: > Paul Hartman wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Dale wrote: > >> One thing I have noticed about hard drives in my experience. When you > >> plug that puppy in and power it up, let it run for a good long while. > >> Overnight is good, a few days

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-24 Thread Dale
kashani wrote: > Dale wrote: >> I also remember this from way back when I was working on puters. I got >> a new job when winder 3.1 came out. Anyway. If a electronic device can >> survive the first couple to six months of usage, they usually last a >> while from the electronic point of view. Th

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-24 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote: > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Dale wrote: > >> >> One thing I have noticed about hard drives in my experience. When you >> plug that puppy in and power it up, let it run for a good long while. >> Overnight is good, a few days is even better, a week or more is even >> b

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-24 Thread kashani
Dale wrote: I also remember this from way back when I was working on puters. I got a new job when winder 3.1 came out. Anyway. If a electronic device can survive the first couple to six months of usage, they usually last a while from the electronic point of view. That is short of spilling you

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-24 Thread Keith Dart
=== On Thu, 09/24, walt wrote: === > In other words, disk manufacturers have apparently decided to abandon > strict quality control in favor of low price, and seem happy to > replace failed drives as a substitute for quality control. It must > be a profitable strategy because they all seem to be d

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-24 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Dale wrote: > walt wrote: >> On 09/24/2009 12:29 PM, Dale wrote: >> >>> USB. There is another idea. Ooops, out of USB plugs too. Crap, I >>> can't put in a drive without buying something to plug it into. LOL I >>> do have USB 2.0 on here. I have to have 2.0 f

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-24 Thread Dale
walt wrote: > On 09/24/2009 12:29 PM, Dale wrote: > >> USB. There is another idea. Ooops, out of USB plugs too. Crap, I >> can't put in a drive without buying something to plug it into. LOL I >> do have USB 2.0 on here. I have to have 2.0 for the printer but my >> camera has to have 1.0. Wei

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-24 Thread walt
On 09/24/2009 12:29 PM, Dale wrote: USB. There is another idea. Ooops, out of USB plugs too. Crap, I can't put in a drive without buying something to plug it into. LOL I do have USB 2.0 on here. I have to have 2.0 for the printer but my camera has to have 1.0. Weird I know. There are so

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-24 Thread James Ausmus
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2009-09-24, James Ausmus wrote: > > I'm don't think that the connectors are different enough to > > care about - I had (in a previous life/system) a PCI SATA > > interface card that had both internal SATA and an eSATA > > connector, an

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-24 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-09-24, James Ausmus wrote: > paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> I think eSATA and SATA physically have different connectors, >> but they are the technically same (you can buy simple >> adapters...). They're compatible but not technically the same. The electrical specs for eSATA