Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wayland - too early to try?

2017-07-14 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Freitag, 14. Juli 2017, 00:34:33 CEST schrieb Mick: > Interestingly, selecting Plasma to run with Wayland won't launch either. It > drops me back into the LoginDM screen. I recall from the announcement of Plasma 5.10 that that is the first version for which the developers consider Wayland su

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wayland - too early to try?

2017-07-13 Thread Mick
On Thursday 13 Jul 2017 21:58:10 Mart Raudsepp wrote: > Ühel kenal päeval, K, 12.07.2017 kell 09:33, kirjutas Mick: > > On Tuesday 11 Jul 2017 23:14:16 Mick wrote: > > > On Wednesday 12 Jul 2017 01:10:00 Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > > > > I copied /usr/share/xsessions/enlightenment.desktop to > > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wayland - too early to try?

2017-07-13 Thread Mart Raudsepp
Ühel kenal päeval, K, 12.07.2017 kell 09:33, kirjutas Mick: > On Tuesday 11 Jul 2017 23:14:16 Mick wrote: > > On Wednesday 12 Jul 2017 01:10:00 Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > > > I copied /usr/share/xsessions/enlightenment.desktop to > > > > /usr/share/wayland- > > > > sessions/ and tried to select it in

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wayland - too early to try?

2017-07-13 Thread Mart Raudsepp
Ühel kenal päeval, T, 11.07.2017 kell 18:16, kirjutas R0b0t1: > In any case if you are asking the question that OP did, I would > suggest Wayland might not be for you. You may not receive any benefit > from using it unless, for some reason, the differing underlying > implementation fixes a bug - bu

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wayland - too early to try?

2017-07-13 Thread Mart Raudsepp
Ühel kenal päeval, T, 11.07.2017 kell 23:14, kirjutas Mick: > On Wednesday 12 Jul 2017 01:10:00 Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > > I copied /usr/share/xsessions/enlightenment.desktop to > > > /usr/share/wayland- > > > sessions/ and tried to select it in LightDM.  Unfortunately > > > LightDM > > > returns m

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wayland - too early to try?

2017-07-12 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 11 Jul 2017 23:14:16 Mick wrote: > On Wednesday 12 Jul 2017 01:10:00 Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > > I copied /usr/share/xsessions/enlightenment.desktop to > > > /usr/share/wayland- > > > sessions/ and tried to select it in LightDM. Unfortunately LightDM > > > returns me > > > back to the lo

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wayland - too early to try?

2017-07-11 Thread R0b0t1
On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: >> On 2017-07-11 09:02, Rich Freeman wrote: >> >>> > I use GNOME with Wayland for some time and I actually didn't notice >>> > that I switched until I tried to get synergy working ( mous

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wayland - too early to try?

2017-07-11 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 12 Jul 2017 01:10:00 Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > I copied /usr/share/xsessions/enlightenment.desktop to > > /usr/share/wayland- > > sessions/ and tried to select it in LightDM. Unfortunately LightDM > > returns me > > back to the login page. I don't know if this is a result of LightDM

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wayland - too early to try?

2017-07-11 Thread Mart Raudsepp
> I copied /usr/share/xsessions/enlightenment.desktop to > /usr/share/wayland- > sessions/ and tried to select it in LightDM.  Unfortunately LightDM > returns me  > back to the login page.  I don't know if this is a result of LightDM > not being  > compatible with Wayland and friends, or if I need

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wayland - too early to try?

2017-07-11 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 11 Jul 2017 22:27:03 Mart Raudsepp wrote: > Random information dump on the subject. > > Wayland is no program, it is a protocol, that's it. dev-libs/wayland is > essentially a helper library to speak that IPC protocol. > > The window manager has to be the compositor and other things as

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wayland - too early to try?

2017-07-11 Thread Mart Raudsepp
Random information dump on the subject. Wayland is no program, it is a protocol, that's it. dev-libs/wayland is essentially a helper library to speak that IPC protocol. The window manager has to be the compositor and other things as well and do the input handling, window drawing, screenshot suppo

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wayland - too early to try?

2017-07-11 Thread Rasmus Thomsen
Hello, > How do I know if wayland is running and if it has a hand in all this > goodness? I don't see any running process called wayland ... that's because wayland is just the API, you have to look for the compositor you use. You can test if you run wayland via "echo $WAYLAND_DISPLAY" ( not too s

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wayland - too early to try?

2017-07-11 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 11 Jul 2017 17:51:03 Franz Fellner wrote: > > Additional question: will keyboard selection keybindings for different > > languages be read off /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf? In particular, > > > > Option "XkbLayout" > > Option "XkbOptions" > > > > which help me toggle the keyb

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wayland - too early to try?

2017-07-11 Thread Franz Fellner
> > Additional question: will keyboard selection keybindings for different > languages be read off /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf? In particular, > > Option "XkbLayout" > Option "XkbOptions" > > which help me toggle the keyboard between different languages. Or is a > different mechanism re

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wayland - too early to try?

2017-07-11 Thread Franz Fellner
Just porting to a toolkit that "supports" Wayland won't be much help to window managers. A WM has to implement the wayland server side (compositor) while applications are clients. The toolkits abstract away the X/wayland client API calls (E.G. Qt platform plugins) so you simply create your widgets,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wayland - too early to try?

2017-07-11 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 11 Jul 2017 07:51:19 Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2017-07-11 09:02, Rich Freeman wrote: > > > I use GNOME with Wayland for some time and I actually didn't notice > > > that I switched until I tried to get synergy working ( mouse sharing > > > software, which only works on X ), seems like GD

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wayland - too early to try?

2017-07-11 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2017-07-11 09:02, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> > I use GNOME with Wayland for some time and I actually didn't notice >> > that I switched until I tried to get synergy working ( mouse sharing >> > software, which only works on X ), seems like

[gentoo-user] Re: Wayland - too early to try?

2017-07-11 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-07-11 09:02, Rich Freeman wrote: > > I use GNOME with Wayland for some time and I actually didn't notice > > that I switched until I tried to get synergy working ( mouse sharing > > software, which only works on X ), seems like GDM automatically > > chose Wayland since some upgrade. XWayla