[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server without suid still runs as root?

2020-06-25 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 25/06/2020 17:24, inasprecali wrote: How are you starting X in the first place? Are you using a display manager? Are you running startx? In the former case, this is perfectly normal for many display managers, including SDDM. GDM, if I'm not mistaken, can and does run X as a regular user if

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server

2020-04-16 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 1:07 AM Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > On 2020-04-14 21:36, Jorge Almeida wrote: > > > Yes, that seems right. I just added "-elogind" to make.conf and that's > > it. But I'm really curious about the framebuffer stuff. As for other > > stuff (mounting USB, etc), doing it by hand i

[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server

2020-04-15 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2020-04-14 21:36, Jorge Almeida wrote: > Yes, that seems right. I just added "-elogind" to make.conf and that's > it. But I'm really curious about the framebuffer stuff. As for other > stuff (mounting USB, etc), doing it by hand it's fine. One possible implication is that without one of these

[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server crashing, back to log-in screen

2014-01-31 Thread walt
On 01/29/2014 04:20 PM, Joseph wrote: > After recent upgrade I've noticed my xorg-server is crashing, and sending me > back to log-in screen on two of my computers. > It happens mostly when when I click a tab in firefox or try to log-out. > > I'm using firefox-24.1.1 Sometimes /var/log/Xorg.0.lo

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.11.4 runs havoc

2012-01-31 Thread Andrés Becerra Sandoval
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 2:28 PM, walt wrote: > On 01/31/2012 02:53 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > > Hi, > > > > having updated xorg-server from 1.11.3 to 1.11.4 my machine runs havoc. > > > > xdm or slim start as usual, but having entered my password I get a > > blank screen or some colored strips

[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.11.4 runs havoc

2012-01-31 Thread walt
On 01/31/2012 02:53 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > Hi, > > having updated xorg-server from 1.11.3 to 1.11.4 my machine runs havoc. > > xdm or slim start as usual, but having entered my password I get a > blank screen or some colored strips and the only escape is via the > famous SysRq sequence. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.10 breaks nvidia-drivers

2011-04-03 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 03 April 2011 01:30:24 Elaine C. Sharpe wrote: > On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 10:30:02PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > On 04/02/2011 06:25 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > On Saturday 02 April 2011 12:32:32 walt wrote: > > >> I had the same problem with slow bug-fixes for the older chipse

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.10 breaks nvidia-drivers

2011-04-02 Thread Elaine C. Sharpe
On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 10:30:02PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 04/02/2011 06:25 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Saturday 02 April 2011 12:32:32 walt wrote: > > > >> I had the same problem with slow bug-fixes for the older chipsets like > >> mine. > > > > Is this the moment to upgrade you

[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.10 breaks nvidia-drivers

2011-04-02 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 04/02/2011 06:25 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Saturday 02 April 2011 12:32:32 walt wrote: I had the same problem with slow bug-fixes for the older chipsets like mine. Is this the moment to upgrade your video card? They seem to be cheap enough, even here in UK. On the other hand, xorg-ser

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.10 breaks nvidia-drivers

2011-04-02 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 02 April 2011 12:32:32 walt wrote: > I had the same problem with slow bug-fixes for the older chipsets like mine. Is this the moment to upgrade your video card? They seem to be cheap enough, even here in UK. -- Rgds Peter

[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.10 breaks nvidia-drivers

2011-04-02 Thread walt
On 04/01/2011 01:23 PM, Yohan Pereira wrote: On Friday 01 Apr 2011 08:39:04 PM walt wrote: > The good old nv driver still works with 1.10, happily. have you tried nouveau? works well here. Yes, a few months ago, but I had the same problem with slow bug-fixes for the older chipsets like mine

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server 1.7.6 without mouse and keyboard (solved)

2010-07-13 Thread Dale
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 07/13/2010 08:01 PM, Tamer Higazi wrote: Hi Mark! you were entirely right, the problem were the input drivers. There three packages I remerged: xf86-input-mouse xf86-input-keyboard xf86-input-evdev and the problem was gone. Portage tells you to do exactly that af

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server 1.7.6 without mouse and keyboard (solved)

2010-07-13 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 07/13/2010 08:14 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Tamer Higazi >>  wrote: >>> >>> Hi Mark! >>> you were entirely right, the problem were the input drivers. >>> >>> There three packages I remerged: >>> >>>

[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server 1.7.6 without mouse and keyboard (solved)

2010-07-13 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 07/13/2010 08:01 PM, Tamer Higazi wrote: Hi Mark! you were entirely right, the problem were the input drivers. There three packages I remerged: xf86-input-mouse xf86-input-keyboard xf86-input-evdev and the problem was gone. Portage tells you to do exactly that after updating xorg-server.

[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server 1.7.6 without mouse and keyboard (solved)

2010-07-13 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 07/13/2010 08:14 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Tamer Higazi wrote: Hi Mark! you were entirely right, the problem were the input drivers. There three packages I remerged: xf86-input-mouse xf86-input-keyboard xf86-input-evdev and the problem was gone. Tamer Gl

[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server 1.8.1 random segfaults

2010-05-16 Thread walt
On 05/16/2010 12:32 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Does anyone else get random segfaults all the time with xorg-server-1.8.1? xorg-server-1.8.0 is working just fine. I'm on ~amd64 with x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-6.13.0 (also tried live ebuild from x11 overlay.) I just upgraded today to 1.8.1 so

[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server: Pressing 'down'/'right ctrl' keys yields newline

2010-05-12 Thread walt
On 05/12/2010 05:25 AM, Amit Dor-Shifer wrote: Hi all. After updating world, xorg-1.5.3-r6 to 1.7.6 among others, I'm now faced with a/m issue. 1. left ctrl key works fine, so does the down arrow key on the numpad. 2. Seems like the "down" key generates a double sequence: both the "down" event

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server/nvidia/x86-driver updated: No kbd, no mouse

2010-04-25 Thread meino . cramer
walt [10-04-26 03:00]: > On 04/25/2010 10:05 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > >Graham Murray [10-04-25 18:28]: > >>meino.cra...@gmx.de writes: > >> > >> > >>>That was also my first thought, but evdev was recompiled -- as I > >>>wrote > >>>in my initial mail... > >>> > >>>What next? > >> > >>Do y

[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server/nvidia/x86-driver updated: No kbd, no mouse

2010-04-25 Thread walt
On 04/25/2010 10:05 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Graham Murray [10-04-25 18:28]: meino.cra...@gmx.de writes: That was also my first thought, but evdev was recompiled -- as I wrote in my initial mail... What next? Do you have an InputClass section in your xorg.conf? This is needed for xo

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server/nvidia/x86-driver updated: No kbd, no mouse

2010-04-25 Thread meino . cramer
Graham Murray [10-04-25 18:28]: > meino.cra...@gmx.de writes: > > > > That was also my first thought, but evdev was recompiled -- as I wrote > > in my initial mail... > > > > What next? > > Do you have an InputClass section in your xorg.conf? This is needed for > xorg to use udev to detect inpu

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server/nvidia/x86-driver updated: No kbd, no mouse

2010-04-25 Thread Graham Murray
meino.cra...@gmx.de writes: > That was also my first thought, but evdev was recompiled -- as I wrote > in my initial mail... > > What next? Do you have an InputClass section in your xorg.conf? This is needed for xorg to use udev to detect input devices.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server/nvidia/x86-driver updated: No kbd, no mouse

2010-04-25 Thread meino . cramer
walt [10-04-25 17:56]: > On 04/25/2010 06:28 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > >[ 2806.923] (II) LoadModule: "evdev" > >[ 2806.923] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/evdev_drv.so > >[ 2806.973] (II) Module evdev: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > >[ 2806.973] compiled for 1.8.0, mod

[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server/nvidia/x86-driver updated: No kbd, no mouse

2010-04-25 Thread walt
On 04/25/2010 06:28 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: [ 2806.923] (II) LoadModule: "evdev" [ 2806.923] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/evdev_drv.so [ 2806.973] (II) Module evdev: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 2806.973]compiled for 1.8.0, module version = 2.4.0 [ 2806.973]Module

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server upgrade

2010-04-21 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 4/21/2010 1:41 AM, Graham Murray wrote: > walt writes: > >> That was true in the past, but no longer. The recent release of xorg 1.8 >> specifically says that hal will not be supported in any future xorg versions, >> so we should all start looking beyond hal. Don't spend a lot of effort now

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server upgrade

2010-04-20 Thread Graham Murray
walt writes: > That was true in the past, but no longer. The recent release of xorg 1.8 > specifically says that hal will not be supported in any future xorg versions, > so we should all start looking beyond hal. Don't spend a lot of effort now > learning about hal because it's on the way out.

[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server upgrade

2010-04-20 Thread walt
On 04/20/2010 04:05 PM, john wrote: Linux/Gentoo appaers to be moving away from xorg.conf and towards hal/policices... That was true in the past, but no longer. The recent release of xorg 1.8 specifically says that hal will not be supported in any future xorg versions, so we s

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server 1.7.

2010-04-10 Thread Dale
walt wrote: On 04/10/2010 11:19 AM, Dale wrote: walt wrote: On 04/09/2010 10:41 PM, Dale wrote:> I searched the logs in /var/log and found this: (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the GLX module; please check in your X (EE) NVIDIA(0): log file that the GLX module has been loaded in your X

[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server 1.7.

2010-04-10 Thread walt
On 04/10/2010 11:19 AM, Dale wrote: walt wrote: On 04/09/2010 10:41 PM, Dale wrote:> I searched the logs in /var/log and found this: (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the GLX module; please check in your X (EE) NVIDIA(0): log file that the GLX module has been loaded in your X (EE) NVIDIA(0

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server 1.7.

2010-04-10 Thread Dale
walt wrote: On 04/09/2010 10:41 PM, Dale wrote:> I searched the logs in /var/log and found this: (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the GLX module; please check in your X (EE) NVIDIA(0): log file that the GLX module has been loaded in your X (EE) NVIDIA(0): server, and that the module is th

[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server 1.7.

2010-04-10 Thread walt
On 04/09/2010 10:41 PM, Dale wrote:> I searched the logs in /var/log and found this: (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the GLX module; please check in your X (EE) NVIDIA(0): log file that the GLX module has been loaded in your X (EE) NVIDIA(0): server, and that the module is the NVIDIA GLX m

[gentoo-user] Re: Xorg-server fails to compile

2009-12-14 Thread walt
On 12/13/2009 07:27 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: * * x11-libs/libXtst-1.1.0<== UNSTABLE version * Package 'x11-proto/xextproto-7.0.5' <= STABLE version Your portage is trying to mix stable and unstable packages on the same machine. You need to figure out why that's happ

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg-server fails to compile

2009-12-14 Thread Boy Hartsuiker
On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 17:43 +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > I did a > emerge -C libXext xextproto; emerge -1 libXext xextproto; emerge -1 xorg-server > but the error remains the same. > > Now? Seems like the versions are incompatible with each other. Do you have anything X related maske

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg-server fails to compile

2009-12-14 Thread Boy Hartsuiker
On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 17:43 +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > I did a > emerge -C libXext xextproto; emerge -1 libXext xextproto; emerge -1 > xorg-server > but the error remains the same. > > Now? Seems like the versions are incompatible with each other. Do you have anything X related ma

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg-server fails to compile

2009-12-14 Thread meino . cramer
Boy Hartsuiker [09-12-14 16:56]: > On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 04:27 +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > but interestingly > > > > portageq owners / xextproto > > > > reports > > > > None of the installed packages claim the file(s). > > Yes, since you have given it the name of an ebuild, n

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg-server fails to compile

2009-12-14 Thread Boy Hartsuiker
On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 04:27 +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > but interestingly > > portageq owners / xextproto > > reports > > None of the installed packages claim the file(s). Yes, since you have given it the name of an ebuild, not a file. You can do what you want by "equery files

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg-server fails to compile

2009-12-13 Thread Boy Hartsuiker
Just unmerge libXext and xextproto and then emerge them again. It looks like some files have been moved from one to the other.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg-server fails to compile

2009-12-13 Thread Zeerak Waseem
On my system I have libXtst-1.1.0 installed but I'm running with xextproto-7.1.1 try unmasking xextproto and see if that helps. On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 04:27:11 +0100, wrote: walt [09-12-14 01:08]: On 12/13/2009 10:03 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > >Hi, > >emerge of xorg-server-1.6.5-r1 fail

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg-server fails to compile

2009-12-13 Thread meino . cramer
walt [09-12-14 01:08]: > On 12/13/2009 10:03 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > >Hi, > > > >emerge of xorg-server-1.6.5-r1 fails while in the build process. > > > >Logfile's contents is: > > >/usr/include/X11/extensions/dpms.h:40: error: expected ')' before '*' > >token > >/usr/include/X11/ext

[gentoo-user] Re: Xorg-server fails to compile

2009-12-13 Thread walt
On 12/13/2009 10:03 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, emerge of xorg-server-1.6.5-r1 fails while in the build process. Logfile's contents is: /usr/include/X11/extensions/dpms.h:40: error: expected ')' before '*' token /usr/include/X11/extensions/dpms.h:41: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.6.5-r1 'Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap'

2009-12-13 Thread Mick
2009/12/13 walt : > On 12/12/2009 04:20 PM, Mick wrote: >> >> ... >> I tried the startx trick.  I recall that this would launch my WM >> (fluxbox), but now all I get is an X session with twm!  Has something >> changed with /etc/rc.conf?  Where should I specify fluxbox? > > That twm session is the d

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.6.5-r1 'Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap'

2009-12-12 Thread Philip Webb
091213 Mick wrote: > I tried the startx trick. It's not a trick ! -- it's the normal sensible way to start X (smile). > I recall that this would launch Fluxbox, > but now all I get is an X session with twm ! > Where should I specify fluxbox? You need a file ~/.xinitrc . Mine is # PP 091002

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.6.5-r1 'Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap'

2009-12-12 Thread Dale
walt wrote: I have these lines in my xorg.conf but I can't remember when or why I put them there. I believe it had something to do with evdev, though. Section "ServerFlags" Option "AllowEmptyInput" "true" Option "AutoAddDevices" "true" EndSection If I recall correctl

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.6.5-r1 'Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap'

2009-12-12 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: On 12/12/2009, walt wrote: On 12/12/2009 03:14 PM, Mick wrote: ... I have had mouse, keyboard and synaptics along with evdev in my INPUT_DEVICES and have emerged relative drivers. I am now going to remove them and see what gives. I know nothing about the synaptics

[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.6.5-r1 'Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap'

2009-12-12 Thread walt
On 12/12/2009 04:20 PM, Mick wrote: ... I tried the startx trick. I recall that this would launch my WM (fluxbox), but now all I get is an X session with twm! Has something changed with /etc/rc.conf? Where should I specify fluxbox? That twm session is the default (see end of /etc/X11/xinit/x

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.6.5-r1 'Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap'

2009-12-12 Thread Mick
On 12/12/2009, walt wrote: > On 12/12/2009 03:14 PM, Mick wrote: > >> ... >> I have had mouse, keyboard and synaptics along with evdev in my >> INPUT_DEVICES and have emerged relative drivers. I am now going to >> remove them and see what gives. > > I know nothing about the synaptics driver, so b

[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.6.5-r1 'Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap'

2009-12-12 Thread walt
On 12/12/2009 03:14 PM, Mick wrote: ... I have had mouse, keyboard and synaptics along with evdev in my INPUT_DEVICES and have emerged relative drivers. I am now going to remove them and see what gives. I know nothing about the synaptics driver, so be careful about deleting it. Maybe rename

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.6.5-r1 'Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap'

2009-12-12 Thread Mick
On 12/12/2009, walt wrote: > On 12/12/2009 12:55 AM, Mick wrote: >> ... >> Not sure if it is related but I am getting this: >> > Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache... >> /sbin/ldconfig: /usr/lib/libltdl.so.3 is not a symbolic link >> >> What does this mean? revdep-rebuild does not show anything ne

[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.6.5-r1 'Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap'

2009-12-12 Thread walt
On 12/12/2009 12:55 AM, Mick wrote: ... Not sure if it is related but I am getting this: Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache... /sbin/ldconfig: /usr/lib/libltdl.so.3 is not a symbolic link What does this mean? revdep-rebuild does not show anything needing to be rebuilt. That must be a very old f

[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.6.5-r1 'Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap'

2009-12-12 Thread Mick
2009/12/12 Mick : > 2009/12/11 Mick : >> Hi All, >> >> I emerged xorg-server-1.6.5-r1, as well as >> x11-drivers/xf86-input-synaptics-1.2.0,  xf86-input-keyboard-1.4.0, >> xf86-input-mouse-1.5.0 and xf86-input-evdev-2.3.1 and now I can't get >> past the xdm login screen.  It is worth noting that I

[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.6.5-r1 'Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap'

2009-12-12 Thread Mick
2009/12/11 Mick : > Hi All, > > I emerged xorg-server-1.6.5-r1, as well as > x11-drivers/xf86-input-synaptics-1.2.0,  xf86-input-keyboard-1.4.0, > xf86-input-mouse-1.5.0 and xf86-input-evdev-2.3.1 and now I can't get > past the xdm login screen.  It is worth noting that I also emerged a > load of a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server upgrading problem

2009-11-14 Thread covici
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > I already posted how do downgrade to 1.6.5 correctly :P > I have a slightly different case, but related -- I tried the upgrade because I saw a message that the new nvidia drivers would actually work, but xorg-server 1.7.1 would not compile and so I followed the ins

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server upgrading problem

2009-11-09 Thread Roy Wright
On Nov 9, 2009, at 3:36 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 11/09/2009 11:18 PM, Roy Wright wrote: On Nov 9, 2009, at 1:04 AM, Johannes Kimmel wrote: Try to resync and emerge the new eselect-opengl and run "eselect opengl set nvidia" again. This could fix it, as I had a similar problem. The old

[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server upgrading problem

2009-11-09 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 11/09/2009 11:18 PM, Roy Wright wrote: On Nov 9, 2009, at 1:04 AM, Johannes Kimmel wrote: Try to resync and emerge the new eselect-opengl and run "eselect opengl set nvidia" again. This could fix it, as I had a similar problem. The old eselect did something wrong, but I can't remember exactl

[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server upgrading problem

2009-11-08 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 11/09/2009 02:46 AM, Roy Wright wrote: Howdy, I have a home server/htpc (~x86) that I'm finally updating after a few months and I hit an issue with xorg-server. Here's the background: Was at xorg-server-1.6.3 and current sync tried to upgrade to 1.7.1, which failed to compile. In researching

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server mouse and keyboard woes

2009-07-11 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Keith Dart wrote: > On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:53:22 -0700 > "Kevin O'Gorman" wrote: > >> This is NOT the way for Linux to make progress in the desktop wars, >> folks. > > Works for me. ;-) > > But its true that Xorg is making some rapid progress. There's some > growi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server mouse and keyboard woes

2009-07-10 Thread Dale
Keith Dart wrote: > On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:47:09 -0500 > Dale wrote: > > >> What gets me is this, I even did a fresh install on another hard >> drive, it don't work there either. hal and friends were included >> from the very start of the install too. Either I am missing >> something that is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server mouse and keyboard woes

2009-07-10 Thread Keith Dart
On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:47:09 -0500 Dale wrote: > What gets me is this, I even did a fresh install on another hard > drive, it don't work there either. hal and friends were included > from the very start of the install too. Either I am missing > something that is not in the guide or it just don'

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server mouse and keyboard woes

2009-07-10 Thread Keith Dart
On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:53:22 -0700 "Kevin O'Gorman" wrote: > This is NOT the way for Linux to make progress in the desktop wars, > folks. Works for me. ;-) But its true that Xorg is making some rapid progress. There's some growing pains. If you are running Gentoo unstable mask (~) then you are

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server mouse and keyboard woes

2009-07-10 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:50 AM, walt wrote: > On 07/10/2009 01:29 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: >> >> On  9 Jul, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: >>> >>> I had tried holding back on xorg-server 1.5, but somewhere in May at >>> least one package got past my version limits and X broke.  Rather than >>> to try to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server mouse and keyboard woes

2009-07-10 Thread David
Mine is working fine also, I did have to rebuild all the drivers after every update, using 1.6.1.901-r5 currently; This is a desktop, I have nothing in /etc/hal/fdi/policy/ david [02:54 PM] opteron ~ $ ls /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/input/ evdev_drv.so kbd_drv.so mouse_drv.so Here is xorg.conf a

[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server mouse and keyboard woes

2009-07-10 Thread walt
On 07/10/2009 01:29 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 9 Jul, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I had tried holding back on xorg-server 1.5, but somewhere in May at least one package got past my version limits and X broke. Rather than to try to revert, I thought surely by now, X would be fixed. Sigh. In anot

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server mouse and keyboard woes

2009-07-10 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Friday 10 July 2009 17:43:44 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > >> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 4:55 AM, Philip Webb wrote: >> >>> 090709 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: >>> > On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Dale wrote: > >> If all else fails: >> x11-base/x

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server mouse and keyboard woes

2009-07-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 10 July 2009 17:43:44 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 4:55 AM, Philip Webb wrote: > > 090709 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > >>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Dale wrote: > If all else fails: > x11-base/xorg-server -hal > >>> > >>> Is there any other advice? > >> > >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server mouse and keyboard woes

2009-07-10 Thread Dale
Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 4:55 AM, Philip Webb wrote: > >> 090709 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Dale wrote: > If all else fails: > x11-base/xorg-server -hal > Is there any other advice?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server mouse and keyboard woes

2009-07-10 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 4:55 AM, Philip Webb wrote: > 090709 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: >>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Dale wrote: If all else fails: x11-base/xorg-server  -hal >>> Is there any other advice? >> A new HAL made no difference.  Sigh. > > I ran into this twice, first on my fr

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server mouse and keyboard woes

2009-07-10 Thread Philip Webb
090709 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Dale wrote: >>> If all else fails: >>> x11-base/xorg-server  -hal >> Is there any other advice? > A new HAL made no difference. Sigh. I ran into this twice, first on my frontline machine, then on the stand-by. The solution was 'USE="

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server mouse and keyboard woes

2009-07-10 Thread Robin Atwood
On Friday 10 July 2009, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > > > > Okay, I'm re-emerging hal. I was already using gcc-4.1.2. I still > > have mouse and keyboard emerged, but not mentioned in the xorg.conf. I am coming late to the party here but I not so

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server mouse and keyboard woes

2009-07-09 Thread Dale
Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > > > A new HAL made no difference. Sigh. > > Another option occurs to me: get a new video card and stop using the > onboard one. I've barely paid any attention to the threads about ATI > vs NVIDIA, and don't know if there are any others worth considering. > Care to make a s

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server mouse and keyboard woes

2009-07-09 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Dale wrote: > Kevin O'Gorman wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Dale wrote: >> >>> James wrote: >>> Kevin O'Gorman gmail.com> writes: >> 'emerge -e1 world' did the trick >> >> > Okay, I was hoping for variable mi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server mouse and keyboard woes

2009-07-09 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Dale wrote: >> James wrote: >>> Kevin O'Gorman gmail.com> writes: >>> >>> >>> > 'emerge -e1 world' did the trick > >>> >>> Okay, I was hoping for variable mileage, but maybe no dice. >>> >>> H

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server mouse and keyboard woes

2009-07-09 Thread Dale
Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Dale wrote: > >> James wrote: >> >>> Kevin O'Gorman gmail.com> writes: >>> >>> >>> >>> > 'emerge -e1 world' did the trick > > >>> Okay, I was hoping for variable mileage, but maybe no dice. >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server mouse and keyboard woes

2009-07-09 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Dale wrote: > James wrote: >> Kevin O'Gorman gmail.com> writes: >> >> >> 'emerge -e1 world' did the trick >> >> >>> Okay, I was hoping for variable mileage, but maybe no dice. >>> >> >> Have you rebuilt HAL? >> >> >> It might help >> >> I have rebuilt

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server mouse and keyboard woes

2009-07-09 Thread Dale
James wrote: > Kevin O'Gorman gmail.com> writes: > > > >>> 'emerge -e1 world' did the trick >>> > > >> Okay, I was hoping for variable mileage, but maybe no dice. >> > > Have you rebuilt HAL? > > > It might help > > I have rebuilt version hal-0.5.11-r9 > > try to get back

[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server mouse and keyboard woes

2009-07-09 Thread James
Kevin O'Gorman gmail.com> writes: > > 'emerge -e1 world' did the trick > Okay, I was hoping for variable mileage, but maybe no dice. Have you rebuilt HAL? It might help I have rebuilt version hal-0.5.11-r9 try to get back to what you had before your last (broken) upgrade. Make sure

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-25 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 1:47 AM, bn wrote: > Mark Knecht ha scritto: > >> No, I need a new kernel also. The kernel on this machine is 2 years >> old. Also, I have about a dozen packages masked so I've unmasked those >> and will need to get the whole machine up to date. > > There is something I didn

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-25 Thread bn
Mark Knecht ha scritto: > No, I need a new kernel also. The kernel on this machine is 2 years > old. Also, I have about a dozen packages masked so I've unmasked those > and will need to get the whole machine up to date. There is something I didn't understand at all in this thread. Why did you nee

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-24 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 06/25/2009 04:27 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: >>> >>> I thought emerge xf86-video-ati, then swapping Driver "flgrx" to Driver >>> "radeon" in xorg.conf was all that is required?? >> >> No, I need a new kernel also. The kernel on this machine

[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-24 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 06/25/2009 04:27 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: I thought emerge xf86-video-ati, then swapping Driver "flgrx" to Driver "radeon" in xorg.conf was all that is required?? No, I need a new kernel also. The kernel on this machine is 2 years old. Also, I have about a dozen packages masked so I've unmask

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-24 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Adam Carter wrote: >> I am scanning the /var/log/Xorg.0.log looking for info on what chip >> this is. I'm not finding anything that says what Radeon family it's >> part of. lspci tells me what I posted here already - that it's part of >> the IGP 9100 family. > > htt

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-24 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 06/25/2009 03:46 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Adam Carter >>  wrote: >>> >>> I havent been following this thread but have you checked the open source >>> drivers? New features are always being ported in.

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-24 Thread Adam Carter
> > So you want the radeon/ati driver, the package name is > xf86-video-ati, so I guess that means you want ati in VIDEO_DEVICES. > > It's "radeon" in recent X.Org, not "ati". Not sure when that > changed. Probably with xorg-server 1.5. Damn - I had checked the /usr/portage/x11-drivers directory

[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-24 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 06/25/2009 04:04 AM, Adam Carter wrote: What VIDEO_DEVICES setting might one use to get this driver called up? Either ati or radeon and check that it installs Open Source? So you want the radeon/ati driver, the package name is xf86-video-ati, so I guess that means you want ati in VIDEO_DEVI

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-24 Thread Adam Carter
> I am scanning the /var/log/Xorg.0.log looking for info on what chip > this is. I'm not finding anything that says what Radeon family it's > part of. lspci tells me what I posted here already - that it's part of > the IGP 9100 family. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_ATI_Graphics_Proces

[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-24 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 06/25/2009 03:46 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Adam Carter wrote: I havent been following this thread but have you checked the open source drivers? New features are always being ported in. The two options are; - Radeon driver (module is named ati) - Radeonhd driver

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-24 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Adam Carter wrote: > I havent been following this thread but have you checked the open source > drivers? New features are always being ported in. The two options are; > - Radeon driver (module is named ati) > - Radeonhd driver (module is named radeon) > > Check out

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-24 Thread Adam Carter
I havent been following this thread but have you checked the open source drivers? New features are always being ported in. The two options are; - Radeon driver (module is named ati) - Radeonhd driver (module is named radeon) Check out the current features here http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 24 June 2009 22:17:12 Mark Knecht wrote: > I really think this is what a personal overlay is for, but as I've > said for years, it's hard to build an overlay when you don't know what > needs to be in it until it's been removed. And yes, something has > removed these files, at least fro

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:17:12 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > 1) It absolutely isn't that the hardware is unsupported, it's that a > *feature* of the hardware (TV Out S-Video) became unsupported. And the S-Video output is part of the hardware, so you do have unsupported hardware. > 2) Following your

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-24 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:46 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:42:11 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > > >> A different short-term solution might be to find another old junker >> machine that is supported, building it out of junker parts. This would >> be good if I had any certainty tha

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-24 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > Is xorg-server-1.1.1 completely gone and I'm hosed? I'm not finding it > on my my machine. The only variations on that theme seem to be in > /var/db/pkg. No tar files, just other programming junk. http://sources.gentoo.org/ is your friend :) Sp

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-24 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 24 June 2009 02:28:50 Neil Bothwick wrote: > Those who can, do. Those who cannot, teach. Those who cannot teach, HACK! No, no - those who can't teach teach teachers. Or so my father used to say, from what he said had been bitter experience. -- Rgds Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:42:11 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > > You can tell before you perform the update that the old version is no > > longer in portage, > > How? I run eix-sync and at that point it's no longer in > /usr/portage/distfiles. AFAIK, eix-sync doesn't touch $DISTDIR. If it does, that's

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-23 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:42:43 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> >>> I have NEVER asked portage to keep a copy of EVERYTHING online. >>> >> Yet it does. >> >> >>> I >>> think it's a sinthat portage decid

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-23 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:42:43 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > >> I have NEVER asked portage to keep a copy of EVERYTHING online. > > Yet it does. > >> I >> think it's a sinthat portage decides to remove files from MY machine, >> files that I'm curr

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-23 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >> On 06/24/2009 03:06 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> >>> [...] >>> Family gets no MythTV for a few days, or maybe forever? >>> >>> I'm trying to mask things to check this and emerge is really mad at me. >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-23 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:06:42 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > >> I absolutely HATE this about portage. Update your machine just >> thinking about trying a new piece of software and then find you cannot >> immediately go back. Gentoo was supposed to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:42:43 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > I have NEVER asked portage to keep a copy of EVERYTHING online. Yet it does. > I > think it's a sinthat portage decides to remove files from MY machine, > files that I'm currently using, files that I require. It doesn't. It may remove fil

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:06:42 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > I absolutely HATE this about portage. Update your machine just > thinking about trying a new piece of software and then find you cannot > immediately go back. Gentoo was supposed to be about choice. Seems > it's not about my choice anymore.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-23 Thread Keith Dart
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:06:42 -0700 Mark Knecht wrote: > Am I hosed again? Did updating portage break my machine by removing > what I was just using: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. ;-) Portage does drop many old packages over time, to keep the package database to a reasonable size. -- -- -

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

2009-06-23 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 06/24/2009 03:27 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> Gentoo is for me. Gentoo is the only distro I run and the only one >> I've run for at least 6 years. Gentoo has run on THIS VERY MACHINE for >> over 4 years and it is the ONLY distro that ha

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