Re: [gentoo-user] Simple installation on BTRFS

2023-07-31 Thread Michael
On Monday, 31 July 2023 17:01:21 BST Laurence Perkins wrote: > >-Original Message- > >From: Neil Bothwick > >Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2023 5:43 AM > >To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > >Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Simple installation on BTRFS > > &

RE: [gentoo-user] Simple installation on BTRFS

2023-07-31 Thread Laurence Perkins
>-Original Message- >From: Neil Bothwick >Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2023 5:43 AM >To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org >Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Simple installation on BTRFS > >On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 10:47:53 +0100, Michael wrote: >> I doubt I will need anything

Re: [gentoo-user] Simple installation on BTRFS

2023-07-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 10:47:53 +0100, Michael wrote: > > I take snapshots every 15 minutes, keeping 5. Then hourly snapshots, > > keeping 25, daily snapshots keeping 8, weekly keeping 6 and monthly > > snapshots that I clean manually as space requires. > > I doubt I will need anything so frequent

Re: [gentoo-user] Simple installation on BTRFS

2023-07-29 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 29 July 2023 08:06:40 BST Neil Bothwick wrote: > I take snapshots every 15 minutes, keeping 5. Then hourly snapshots, > keeping 25, daily snapshots keeping 8, weekly keeping 6 and monthly > snapshots that I clean manually as space requires. I doubt I will need anything so frequent, t

Re: [gentoo-user] Simple installation on BTRFS

2023-07-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 14:57:25 +0100, Michael wrote: > > I too put everything on subvolumes, and set the one containing / to be > > the default when mounted without a subvolid. > > When you say "everything", do you include temporary and virtual > filesystems too (e.g. /sys, /proc/ /tmp, /run), or

RE: [gentoo-user] Simple installation on BTRFS

2023-07-28 Thread Laurence Perkins
>If you can run two disks and raid, that's always a good idea. SMART is >supposed to catch disk problems, but they still do die without warning. > >btrfs raid is (still) full of gotchas, as far as I know. > >Don't use anything higher than raid-1. Parity raid isn't reliable last I knew >... It's

Re: [gentoo-user] Simple installation on BTRFS

2023-07-28 Thread Michael
On Friday, 28 July 2023 08:07:10 BST Wols Lists wrote: > On 27/07/2023 17:18, Michael wrote: > > Any gotchas I should be mindful of? > > If you can run two disks and raid, that's always a good idea. SMART is > supposed to catch disk problems, but they still do die without warning. Yes, esp. SSDs

Re: [gentoo-user] Simple installation on BTRFS

2023-07-28 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 27 July 2023 18:30:11 BST Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 27 Jul 2023 17:18:14 +0100, Michael wrote: > > Although I've been using btrfs for the best part of 10 years I have not > > really done justice to it, because I have neither explored nor used > > enough most of its features. I am

Re: [gentoo-user] Simple installation on BTRFS

2023-07-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 08:07:10 +0100, Wols Lists wrote: > WATCH YOUR FREE DISK. I think it's all sorted now, but whatever you're > using it was always a good idea not to go over 90% full. For a very > long time, a combination of snapshots and a full disk would wedgie the > system, such that the on

Re: [gentoo-user] Simple installation on BTRFS

2023-07-28 Thread Wols Lists
On 27/07/2023 17:18, Michael wrote: Although I've been using btrfs for the best part of 10 years I have not really done justice to it, because I have neither explored nor used enough most of its features. I am now thinking of installing Gentoo on btrfs again, but this time I want to optimise the

Re: [gentoo-user] Simple installation on BTRFS

2023-07-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 27 Jul 2023 14:01:40 -0400, Igor Semyonov wrote: > I am planning to install gentoo with btrfs over luks on another machine. > My plan is to use luks to encrypt a drive or partition, then put btrfs > over it and do things as before with btrfs. > > One thing I am wondering about is: what if

Re: [gentoo-user] Simple installation on BTRFS

2023-07-27 Thread Igor Semyonov
I simply have @ and @home subvolumes. I use btrbk for automatic snapshotting and backups to an external drive and via ssh to another machine. For full disk encryption, I am not sure and would love some input on it myself. I am planning to install gentoo with btrfs over luks on another machine. My

Re: [gentoo-user] Simple installation on BTRFS

2023-07-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 27 Jul 2023 17:18:14 +0100, Michael wrote: > Although I've been using btrfs for the best part of 10 years I have not > really done justice to it, because I have neither explored nor used > enough most of its features. I am now thinking of installing Gentoo on > btrfs again, but this time