Re: [geo] Re: 2. What are some potentially false 'memes' related to solar geoengineering?

2014-08-17 Thread John Nissen
Hi Ken, I hope I am not too late to bring this up. There are two fundamental memes about geoengineering which worry me because the leading scientific evidence suggests they are false: 1. That you can reduce CO2 to a safe level in the atmosphere (as regards its global warming and ocean

Re: [geo] Response to Svoboda and Irvine, J Reynolds

2014-08-17 Thread Toby Svoboda
Hi Ron, I agree that CDR warrants attention from ethicists (and others). For those attending the Berlin Climate Engineering Conference this week, there is a session on the ethics of CDR that might be of interest: http://www.ce-conference.org/ethics-carbon-dioxide-removal. Best, Toby The Ethics

RE: [geo] Response to Svoboda and Irvine, J Reynolds

2014-08-17 Thread Rau, Greg
Toby, I regret I will not be at the meeting to learn more about the ethics of CDR. Presumably this refers to enhancement of existing, natural CDR which is already removing about 55% of our emissions, but which is immune from ethical considerations(?) Regardless of our actions, this natural CDR

Re: [geo] A Win-Win research program proposal on SRM (sunlight reflection methods)

2014-08-17 Thread Renaud de_Richter
The research proposed can also be improved if we also take into account the very important health cost savings: According to Shindell (*) dramatically cutting polluting emissions (BC and CH4) with existing technology would avoid 0.7–4.7 million annual premature deaths every year, from

Re: [AMEG 8562] Re: [geo] Re: 2. What are some potentially false 'memes' related to solar geoengineering?

2014-08-17 Thread nathan currier
Dear John - Had you a technique that worked securely, quite a few people might sleep better at night. But Ken once accused you, if I remember correctly, of making reckless statements, and since you don't have such a technique, trying to speak in ways that intentionally builds a feeling of

Re: [geo] 2. What are some potentially false 'memes' related to solar geoengineering?

2014-08-17 Thread Ronal W. Larson
Dr Calvin: Not sure if your response below was to my proposed false (repeat false) meme, directed to Ken, which read (see more below): SRM can be analyzed adequately and correctly without comparing to CDR/NET. See next in response to your rejoinder: Compared to what? On Aug

Re: [geo] Response to Svoboda and Irvine, J Reynolds

2014-08-17 Thread Ronal W. Larson
Dr. Svoboda, list, and panelists 1. Thanks for the alert on this 1.5 hour panel. I hope that you and/or others can report back on any comparisons found for the ethics of CDR and SRM. 2. Curiously, a major news item relative to biochar just came to my attention yesterday

Re: [geo] Response to Svoboda and Irvine, J Reynolds

2014-08-17 Thread Ronal W. Larson
Dr. Svoboda etal (adding Dr. Joseph) Re this just identified Transparency report, whose title was Global Biochar Market is Expected to Reach 300 Kilo Tons and USD 572.3 Million by 2020 Just in tonight, on the Yahoo biochar list, from Dr. Stephen Joseph (a