Re: [geo] Al Gore on geoengineering

2013-10-01 Thread Greg Rau
...@atm.ox.ac.uk; Salif KONE skonem...@yahoo.fr; kcalde...@carnegiescience.edu Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [geo] Al Gore on geoengineering The Cold War  and the Apollo Program were not pursued in the expectation of profiting from software spinoffs, LED lighting,CAT scanners, cell

Re: [geo] Al Gore on geoengineering

2013-10-01 Thread Alan Robock
Dear All, I think this is a terrible comparison to make and should not be used. I heard someone this summer who was trained by Al Gore use this and she did not distinguish between all the effects of atomic bombs and the energy equivalent of the atomic explosions. Equating nuclear war and

RE: [geo] Al Gore on geoengineering

2013-10-01 Thread Hawkins, Dave
@googlegroups.com [mailto:geoengineering@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Robock Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 2:31 PM To: geoengineering@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [geo] Al Gore on geoengineering Dear All, I think this is a terrible comparison to make and should not be used. I heard someone

Re: [geo] Al Gore on geoengineering

2013-10-01 Thread David Appell
Alan, I see your point Do you (or does anyone) have a more appropriate analogy for such large amounts of heat? The tempting thing about the Hiro is it's just the right amount (63 terajoules) for many global climate numbers I have sometimes used Civ, the power production of all of

RE: [geo] Al Gore on geoengineering

2013-10-01 Thread Christopher Green, Prof.
[mailto:geoengineering@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Appell Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 2:56 PM To: geoengineering@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [geo] Al Gore on geoengineering Alan, I see your point Do you (or does anyone) have a more appropriate analogy for such large amounts of heat? The tempting

RE: [geo] Al Gore on geoengineering

2013-10-01 Thread Hawkins, Dave
@googlegroups.commailto:geoengineering@googlegroups.com [mailto:geoengineering@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Appell Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 2:56 PM To: geoengineering@googlegroups.commailto:geoengineering@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [geo] Al Gore on geoengineering Alan, I see your point Do you

Re: [geo] Al Gore on geoengineering

2013-10-01 Thread Alan Robock
Dear David, I think an array of incandescent light bulbs around the world would work much better. If you have 100 W bulbs, and want to model an imbalance at the surface of 1 W/m2, then you will need one light bulb every 100 m2, multiplied by 1 over the fraction of energy emitted by each bulb

Re: [geo] Al Gore on geoengineering

2013-10-01 Thread Jim Fleming
Dear Alan and All, Here is a video we produced at Colby on energy consumption (not global warming) using lightbulbs. The tall gentleman on the library steps is Sherry Rowland. Perhaps someone could make an array of Christmas tree lights? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSPJOTX06JU Jim Fleming

Re: [geo] Al Gore on geoengineering

2013-08-27 Thread Russell Seitz
javascript: *Sent: *Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:09:59 PM *Subject: *RE: [geo] Al Gore on geoengineering If we take a portfolio view, the question is how large and what type of investment should we be making in solar geoengineering research. Agreed

Re: [geo] Al Gore on geoengineering

2013-08-25 Thread Salif KONE
le : Samedi 24 août 2013 16h46 Objet : Re: [geo] Al Gore on geoengineering Al Gore is not opposing geoengineering research because he wants to profit off of climate change, as suggested by Eugene. Asserting this is as nutty as asserting that people commonly support geoengineering research

Re: [geo] Al Gore on geoengineering

2013-08-25 Thread David Lewis
.physics.ox.ac.uk/contacts/people/driscoll -- *From:* Salif KONE [skon...@yahoo.fr javascript:] *Sent:* 24 August 2013 15:19 *To:* Simon Driscoll; geoengi...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Subject:* Re: [geo] Al Gore on geoengineering I do disagree with this Al Gore

RE: [geo] Al Gore on geoengineering

2013-08-25 Thread Simon Driscoll
2013 13:15 To: geoengineering@googlegroups.com Cc: Simon Driscoll Subject: Re: [geo] Al Gore on geoengineering Simon, I do understand that he assumes the SRM technique to be awful under the consideration of injecting sulfate aerosol in the stratosphere, but works undertaking under the umbrella

Re: [geo] Al Gore on geoengineering

2013-08-25 Thread Ronal W. Larson
(0) 7935314940 http://www2.physics.ox.ac.uk/contacts/people/driscoll From: Salif KONE [skonem...@yahoo.fr] Sent: 25 August 2013 13:15 To: geoengineering@googlegroups.com Cc: Simon Driscoll Subject: Re: [geo] Al Gore on geoengineering Simon

Re: [geo] Al Gore on geoengineering

2013-08-25 Thread Ronal W. Larson
[skonem...@yahoo.fr] Sent: 25 August 2013 13:15 To: geoengineering@googlegroups.com Cc: Simon Driscoll Subject: Re: [geo] Al Gore on geoengineering Simon, I do understand that he assumes the SRM technique to be awful under the consideration of injecting sulfate aerosol in the stratosphere

RE: [geo] Al Gore on geoengineering

2013-08-24 Thread Simon Driscoll
.physics.ox.ac.uk/contacts/people/driscoll From: Salif KONE [skonem...@yahoo.fr] Sent: 24 August 2013 15:19 To: Simon Driscoll; geoengineering@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [geo] Al Gore on geoengineering I do disagree with this Al Gore' statement ...We shouldn’t waste

Re: [geo] Al Gore on geoengineering

2013-08-24 Thread Ken Caldeira
', 'skonem...@yahoo.fr');] *Sent:* 24 August 2013 15:19 *To:* Simon Driscoll; geoengineering@googlegroups.com javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'geoengineering@googlegroups.com'); *Subject:* Re: [geo] Al Gore on geoengineering I do disagree with this Al Gore' statement ...We shouldn’t waste a lot

RE: [geo] Al Gore on geoengineering

2013-08-24 Thread Simon Driscoll
: Salif KONE; geoengineering@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [geo] Al Gore on geoengineering There is a pleasing simplicity to answering a question as if it were a binary, but I suppose if you got these people in a room and spoke with them quietly, the question could not be answered with a yes

Re: [geo] Al Gore on geoengineering

2013-08-24 Thread Ken Caldeira
: *Salif KONE skonem...@yahoo.fr, geoengineering@googlegroups.com *Sent: *Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:09:59 PM *Subject: *RE: [geo] Al Gore on geoengineering If we take a portfolio view, the question is how large and what type of investment should we be making in solar geoengineering research

[geo] Al Gore on geoengineering

2013-08-23 Thread Simon Driscoll
Al Gore: Let me deal with the geoengineering part of your question first. That’s complex because there are some benign geoengineering proposals like white roofs or efforts to figure out a way to extract CO2 from the atmosphere , though no one has figured out how to do that yet. But the