Re: [Geotools-devel] axis order blues

2015-03-02 Thread Andrea Aime
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Niels Charlier ni...@scitus.be wrote: Jeroen hit the nail on the head... Users want the ability to choose.. but they also want predictability, I would say the latter is even a prerequisite for the first. Axis order behaviour and which db system to use are

Re: [Geotools-devel] axis order blues

2015-03-02 Thread Niels Charlier
...@gmail.com] namens Andrea Aime [andrea.a...@geo-solutions.it] *Verzonden:* vrijdag 27 februari 2015 12:55 *Aan:* Niels Charlier; Dries Jeroen *CC:* Ben Caradoc-Davies; geotools-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; Jody Garnett *Onderwerp:* Re: [Geotools-devel] axis order blues On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 12:34 PM

Re: [Geotools-devel] axis order blues

2015-03-01 Thread Dries Jeroen
@lists.sourceforge.net; Jody Garnett Onderwerp: Re: [Geotools-devel] axis order blues On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Niels Charlier ni...@scitus.bemailto:ni...@scitus.be wrote: On 27-02-15 11:52, Andrea Aime wrote: On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Niels Charlier ni...@scitus.bemailto:ni...@scitus.be wrote: Hmm

Re: [Geotools-devel] axis order blues

2015-03-01 Thread Andrea Aime
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 7:52 AM, Dries Jeroen jeroen.dr...@vito.be wrote: Quite a coincidence, I've also been wrestling with axis order last week, and also found that the documentation did not appear to be correct! The way I expect it to work is for gt-epsg-wkt to be a drop in replacement for

Re: [Geotools-devel] axis order blues

2015-02-27 Thread Andrea Aime
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Niels Charlier ni...@scitus.be wrote: Hmm yeah I figured it had something to do with that. Thanks for the detailed explanation, Ben. But my question remains: should gt-epsg-wkt be allowed to produce the wrong CRS in the first place? As far as I remember

Re: [Geotools-devel] axis order blues

2015-02-27 Thread Niels Charlier
Hmm yeah I figured it had something to do with that. Thanks for the detailed explanation, Ben. But my question remains: should gt-epsg-wkt be allowed to produce the wrong CRS in the first place? Should it perhaps not be completely removed from all dependencies and replaced by better

Re: [Geotools-devel] axis order blues

2015-02-27 Thread Niels Charlier
On 27-02-15 11:52, Andrea Aime wrote: On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Niels Charlier ni...@scitus.be mailto:ni...@scitus.be wrote: Hmm yeah I figured it had something to do with that. Thanks for the detailed explanation, Ben. But my question remains: should gt-epsg-wkt be

Re: [Geotools-devel] axis order blues

2015-02-27 Thread Andrea Aime
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Niels Charlier ni...@scitus.be wrote: On 27-02-15 11:52, Andrea Aime wrote: On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Niels Charlier ni...@scitus.be wrote: Hmm yeah I figured it had something to do with that. Thanks for the detailed explanation, Ben. But my

[Geotools-devel] axis order blues

2015-02-26 Thread Niels Charlier
Hi, Okay, so according to the geotools documentation CRSes with full URI specification don't suffer from axis order confusions. But I have the following SRS used in a test: urn:x-ogc:def:crs:EPSG:6.11.2:26713 And here's the thing: when running the test in maven, this is North-East, when

Re: [Geotools-devel] axis order blues

2015-02-26 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
Niels, I will answer your first question. You are right: this is a classpath difference. The cause is that Maven and Eclipse have different dependency models. Eclipse has no notion of a phase (compile versus test) and no way to exclude transitive dependencies (so test dependencies of other