Re: [Geotools-devel] axis order blues

2015-03-02 Thread Niels Charlier
*Van:* andrea.a...@gmail.com [andrea.a...@gmail.com] namens Andrea Aime [andrea.a...@geo-solutions.it] *Verzonden:* vrijdag 27 februari 2015 12:55 *Aan:* Niels Charlier; Dries Jeroen *CC:* Ben Caradoc-Davies; geotools-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; Jody Garnett *Onderwerp:* Re: [Ge

Re: [Geotools-devel] axis order blues

2015-03-02 Thread Andrea Aime
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Niels Charlier wrote: > Jeroen hit the nail on the head... Users want the ability to choose.. but > they also want predictability, I would say the latter is even a > prerequisite for the first. Axis order behaviour and which db system to use > are orthogonal choi

Re: [Geotools-devel] axis order blues

2015-03-01 Thread Andrea Aime
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 7:52 AM, Dries Jeroen wrote: > Quite a coincidence, I've also been wrestling with axis order last week, > and also found that the documentation did not appear to be correct! The way > I expect it to work is for gt-epsg-wkt to be a drop in replacement for > gt-epsg-hsql, so

Re: [Geotools-devel] axis order blues

2015-03-01 Thread Dries Jeroen
er; Dries Jeroen CC: Ben Caradoc-Davies; geotools-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; Jody Garnett Onderwerp: Re: [Geotools-devel] axis order blues On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Niels Charlier mailto:ni...@scitus.be>> wrote: On 27-02-15 11:52, Andrea Aime wrote: On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Niels

Re: [Geotools-devel] axis order blues

2015-02-27 Thread Andrea Aime
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Niels Charlier wrote: > > On 27-02-15 11:52, Andrea Aime wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Niels Charlier wrote: > >> Hmm yeah I figured it had something to do with that. Thanks for the >> detailed explanation, Ben. >> But my question remains: should

Re: [Geotools-devel] axis order blues

2015-02-27 Thread Niels Charlier
On 27-02-15 11:52, Andrea Aime wrote: On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Niels Charlier > wrote: Hmm yeah I figured it had something to do with that. Thanks for the detailed explanation, Ben. But my question remains: should gt-epsg-wkt be allowed to produce th

Re: [Geotools-devel] axis order blues

2015-02-27 Thread Andrea Aime
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Niels Charlier wrote: > Hmm yeah I figured it had something to do with that. Thanks for the > detailed explanation, Ben. > But my question remains: should gt-epsg-wkt be allowed to produce the > wrong CRS in the first place? > As far as I remember gt-espg-wkt al

Re: [Geotools-devel] axis order blues

2015-02-27 Thread Niels Charlier
Hmm yeah I figured it had something to do with that. Thanks for the detailed explanation, Ben. But my question remains: should gt-epsg-wkt be allowed to produce the wrong CRS in the first place? Should it perhaps not be completely removed from all dependencies and replaced by better alternatives

Re: [Geotools-devel] axis order blues

2015-02-26 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
Niels, I will answer your first question. You are right: this is a classpath difference. The cause is that Maven and Eclipse have different dependency models. Eclipse has no notion of a phase (compile versus test) and no way to exclude transitive dependencies (so test dependencies of other mod

[Geotools-devel] axis order blues

2015-02-26 Thread Niels Charlier
Hi, Okay, so according to the geotools documentation CRSes with full URI specification don't suffer from axis order confusions. But I have the following SRS used in a test: urn:x-ogc:def:crs:EPSG:6.11.2:26713 And here's the thing: when running the test in maven, this is North->East, when runnin