On 10/31/2009 09:26 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
> The question you really have to ask is: will actual GIMP developers
> agree to work on rebranded GIMP? Because, you see, there are just 3,7
> of them. And only Martin (correct me if I'm wrong) once said he
> wouldn't mind having GIMP rebranded.
On 10/31/09, Christopher Howard wrote:
> that. Every heard, though, of the original name of the Linux OS?
> Torvalds wanted it called "Freaxs." Fortunately, though, the name Linux
> stuck, and even Linus admitted this was better.
For reasons far beyond human imagination this is all but a valid
ar
i'm glad that gimp developers prefer to spend their time on improving the
application rather than discussing and implementing 'improvements' to it's
name.
it's a darn good program. before i switched over to linux about one year ago
i thought i couldn't live without photoshop. now i wouldn't us
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 1:47 AM, Stephen Griffiths wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 13:06 +0200, Alexia Death wrote:
>> Some English speakers
>> discomfort at the name is getting a bit ridiculous IMHO.
>
> These words make me squirm.
> fag - a pile of sticks (secondary meaning, rarely used)
> nigger
On 10/29/09, Laxminarayan Kamath wrote:
>
> What about "FreeMI" ? standing for "Freedom to Manipulate Images"?
> *if* the GTK people want to rename accordingly, even that would sound
> nice "FreeTK"
>
Whether people are serious about this or not, I am going to revise my
suggestion.
FreeMI sound l
Stephen Griffiths wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 13:06 +0200, Alexia Death wrote:
>
>> Some English speakers
>> discomfort at the name is getting a bit ridiculous IMHO.
>>
>
> These words make me squirm.
> fag - a pile of sticks (secondary meaning, rarely used)
> nigger - a person from a po
On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 13:06 +0200, Alexia Death wrote:
> Some English speakers
> discomfort at the name is getting a bit ridiculous IMHO.
These words make me squirm.
fag - a pile of sticks (secondary meaning, rarely used)
nigger - a person from a poor background (secondary meaning, almost
unheard
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Christopher Howard wrote:
> Alexia Death wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:40 PM, David Gowers <00a...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Brendan wrote:
>>> A list of files that would need modification:
>>> ... SINP LONG LIST...
>>
>> And al
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Christopher Howard wrote:
> People keep saying "the original developers named it GIMP" and that is
> that. Every heard, though, of the original name of the Linux OS?
> Torvalds wanted it called "Freaxs." Fortunately, though, the name Linux
> stuck, and even Linus
Alexia Death wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:40 PM, David Gowers <00a...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Brendan wrote:
>> A list of files that would need modification:
>> ... SINP LONG LIST...
>
> And all of GIMP code. 98% functions are prefixed as gimp. You can try
> t
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Scott wrote:
>
> Way OT, but speaking of getting in trouble with acronyms, I remember
> years ago at law school when someone founded a "Christian Legal
> Association" there, and they would post bulletins on the
> walls. Somebody (hmmm, wonder who?...) started posti
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 09:13:55AM -0400, Monty Montgomery wrote:
> We could fork the project to only include Christian developers,
> thus... uh... you all *are* getting this is sarcasm, right?
Way OT, but speaking of getting in trouble with acronyms, I remember
years ago at law school when someo
Monty Montgomery wrote:
> Actually I think there are quite a few people who would be more open
> to using the Gimp if the development community were screened for
> religious preferences. I don't see why it's OK to offend the
> Christian users, but not ok to offend just the 'prudes'.
>
> We could f
I honestly don't see the problem people have with the word.
My school-age daughter came home talking about using gimp in school.
I thought great, a progressive schoolboard willing to use open source software.
Alas, she was referring to gimp, the plastic craft lace. Also known
as boondoggle (whi
> if it were more canonical, people would already be calling it Gnu IMP
> or IMP). That's fair enough.. IMP *is* a better name (and people who
> object to it on religious grounds probably are terminally humorless),
Actually I think there are quite a few people who would be more open
to using the G
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:40 PM, David Gowers <00a...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Brendan wrote:
> A list of files that would need modification:
>... SINP LONG LIST...
And all of GIMP code. 98% functions are prefixed as gimp. You can try
to grep for gimp on gimp source t
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Brendan wrote:
> On Thursday 29 October 2009, you wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Brendan wrote:
>> >> All the above comprise a significant factor in why forks are regarded,
>> >> at best, as a necessary evil. All forks dilute branding, which
>> >> intr
Same thing happend to me when I announced on a forum I created a program named
RIOT (an acronym of Radical Image Optimization Tool).
Some people pointed that the name is not good. Quote: "The name is not good. It
conveys the impression that the program will make a right mess of users'
images."
M
I really mistook the what Patrick was saying here (of which he was kind
enough to make me aware of privately), I apologise for reacting so
quickly. I think I have already said what I meant to say in the first
two posts and will take the time to bow out from any further
participation.
regards,
Ste
On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 15:27 -0700, Patrick Horgan wrote:
> Stephen Griffiths wrote:
> > ... elision by Patrick
> > The name GIMP is not so invaluable that it cannot be changed, also there
> > is a massive number of outsiders who find the name truly unappealing, I
> > do not hear the raw of the peop
Stephen Griffiths wrote:
> ... elision by Patrick
> The name GIMP is not so invaluable that it cannot be changed, also there
> is a massive number of outsiders who find the name truly unappealing, I
> do not hear the raw of the people saying they love the name.
>
You can hear my raw here. I lov
2009/10/29 Alexander Rabtchevich wrote:
> Have you looked at the meanings of the word "pimp"? If no, you will
> really be surprised.
Just in case, "irony" has very little to do with iron and metals :)
Alexandre
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On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 4:19 AM, Stephen Griffiths wrote:
> If the argument for keeping the name is seriously that the project
> branding is valuable, why don't we write that in the FAQ?
Purely coincidentally it's been in the FAQ for years.
Alexandre
_
You've somehow missed the emoticon at the end of my post...
But your reaction makes me want to officialy announce this name change
exactly 154 days from now... :D
2009/10/29 Cristian Secară
> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 04:19:57 -0400, Jakub Friedl wrote:
>
> > In case the "no name change" policy is eve
Have you looked at the meanings of the word "pimp"? If no, you will
really be surprised.
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 04:19:57 -0400, Jakub Friedl wrote:
>> In case the "no name change" policy is ever dropped, I have a
>> suggestion for the new name:
>>
>> Perfect Image Manipulation Program
>>
>> It sho
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 04:19:57 -0400, Jakub Friedl wrote:
> In case the "no name change" policy is ever dropped, I have a
> suggestion for the new name:
>
> Perfect Image Manipulation Program
>
> It should fix all the problems :)
Can't wait for the next day comments after this name change, when
s
On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 09:22 +0200, Alexia Death wrote:
> This thread makes me want to draw Wilber in spandex and some cuffs and
> pehaps Gegl with a whip ;)... too bad it would be going too far to
> make something like that a dev splash.
Why would that go too far? Please go ahead!
regards,
--mitc
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 10:59:28AM +1030, David Gowers wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 10:41 AM, vabijou2 wrote:
> > So just because some old farts in Scotland may have good associations with
> > the word, you think that renders the rest of the English-speaking world's
> > interpretation silly?
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Jakub Friedl wrote:
> In case the "no name change" policy is ever dropped, I have a suggestion for
> the new name:
>
> Perfect Image Manipulation Program
>
> It should fix all the problems :)
Indeed! Lets make it one better. Home&Office Perfect Image Manipulation
In case the "no name change" policy is ever dropped, I have a suggestion for
the new name:
Perfect Image Manipulation Program
It should fix all the problems :)
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Chris Mohler wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 1:35 PM, John B wrote:
>
> > IMO this would be a valid
This thread makes me want to draw Wilber in spandex and some cuffs and
pehaps Gegl with a whip ;)... too bad it would be going too far to
make something like that a dev splash.
--Alexia
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On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:53 AM, Laxminarayan Kamath
wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 10:15 AM, David Gowers <00a...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Call it the Gnu IMP.
>>
>> This has to be facetiousness, doesn't it?
>
> What about "FreeMI" ? standing for "Freedom to Manipulate Images"?
> *if* the GTK
Incidentally, I like Stephen's 'Wilber/ Wilber Image Editor'
suggestion (in another related thread).
I'm envisioning someone using the latest GIT version because they
*have* to be up-to-date with the newest stuff, the program crashing
and destroying their work, and they cry 'No! WIEEE?'
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 10:15 AM, David Gowers <00a...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Call it the Gnu IMP.
>
> This has to be facetiousness, doesn't it?
What about "FreeMI" ? standing for "Freedom to Manipulate Images"?
*if* the GTK people want to rename accordingly, even that would sound
nice "FreeTK"
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Brendan wrote:
>> All the above comprise a significant factor in why forks are regarded,
>> at best, as a necessary evil. All forks dilute branding, which
>> introduces user confusion and repels potential users.
>
> I think it's incorrect to say it repels potential
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Christopher Howard
wrote:
> Stephen Griffiths wrote:
> When I mentioned "forking the project" I wasn't thinking of having a
> version of GIMP out there that was actually following a fully separate
> development path with a bunch of disgrunted GIMP developers. Rath
Stephen Griffiths wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 10:48 +1030, David Gowers wrote:
>> It doesn't really matter that much to the developers *what* it is
>> called, as far as I know.
>> The point is really the branding... changing name will definitively
>> LOSE a lot of users, no matter what the curre
On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 10:48 +1030, David Gowers wrote:
> It doesn't really matter that much to the developers *what* it is
> called, as far as I know.
> The point is really the branding... changing name will definitively
> LOSE a lot of users, no matter what the current name is or the
> intended na
Well, if we're going to do this discussion, I think I'll just
unsubscribe for a while.
Let me know when you guys decide to keep the name GIMP. Or
better yet, don't.
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On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 10:41 AM, vabijou2 wrote:
> So just because some old farts in Scotland may have good associations with
> the word, you think that renders the rest of the English-speaking world's
> interpretation silly? %-|
Personally, I think the question you just asks renders you silly (
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Christopher Howard wrote:
> John B wrote:
>> Well, if it's out of the question, then I guess I'll just shut up
>> before this becomes a big argument.
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Patrick Horgan wrote:
>
> The same site you cited has the following:
> Adjective
> gimp ( comparative more gimp, superlative most gimp)
>
>
>
>
>
> Positive
> gimp
>
>
>
>
> Comparative
> more gimp
>
>
>
John B wrote:
> Well, if it's out of the question, then I guess I'll just shut up
> before this becomes a big argument.
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On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 5:35 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine
wrote:
>> Worse, I seem to recall the Gimp mascot being referred to as "a gimp"
>> in multiple occasions on the website.
>
> You got it wrong. Mascot's name is Wilber and he thinks you should apologize.
No, John is correct: GIMP's mascot Wilber
Well, if it's out of the question, then I guess I'll just shut up
before this becomes a big argument.
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John B wrote:
I use Gimp frequently, and I find this pretty concerning.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/gimp#Noun_2
There is no way I'm wearing a Gimp T-Shirt after reading item #5.
Worse, I seem to recall the Gimp mascot being referred to as "a gimp"
in multiple occasions on the website.
I
On 10/28/09, John B wrote:
> I use Gimp frequently, and I find this pretty concerning.
>
> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/gimp#Noun_2
>
> There is no way I'm wearing a Gimp T-Shirt after reading item #5.
Fine with me. Don't wear it.
> Worse, I seem to recall the Gimp mascot being referred to as "
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 1:35 PM, John B wrote:
> IMO this would be a valid reason for a name change. Has that ever been
> considered?
Search the archives - this has been discussed to death... and there
will be no name change.
Chris
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I use Gimp frequently, and I find this pretty concerning.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/gimp#Noun_2
There is no way I'm wearing a Gimp T-Shirt after reading item #5.
Worse, I seem to recall the Gimp mascot being referred to as "a gimp"
in multiple occasions on the website.
IMO this would be a va
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