Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-03 Thread Paul Read
My use case: I use GIMP for its mult-layer features, creating images from scratch and I want to save all my work in this multi-layer format (XCF) but I need to send draft versions and the finished image to friends/customers/websites etc as a flat image (e.g. an exported PNG) So the new interface

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-03 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Jonathan Kamens j...@kamens.us writes: I hate the new Save vs. Export behavior. It is completely non-intuitive to me, it makes my brain stumble every time I try to do just about any of the things that I do in GIMP on a regular basis, and it makes most of my workflows take more thought and

[Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-03 Thread Francois
I also hate the save/export feature, that does not bring any convenience at all, and causes lots of errors when you are tying to save an image. In former Gimp versions, typing the file name without extension was enough to save the file in xcf. Now, the program has gone STUPID enough to bring

[Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-03 Thread Francois
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:14 AM, Kasim Ahmic kasim.ah...@gmail.com wrote: I was just thinking like a toggle in the Preferences saying something like Use old save/export method. But by default it's set to the new method. Kasim. I encourage you to carefully read intro at

[Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-03 Thread Francois
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Francois wrote: I would like to know who introduced this new feature: Just read the release notes :) to my mind, it must be an infiltrated saboteur from Adobe. No, actually it's an alien conspiracy. First they sent us a death threat, but we called it dubstep

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-03 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Judah Kleinveldt judahy...@yahoo.ca writes: Wow it seems those in disfavour of the new save-export function are pretty agro. Although I don't have a neutral stance on it, I also see it as a _trivial_ change; and when I reflect a bit, I don't think it deserves this much discussion. As

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-03 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Francois wrote: No. Reading your notes is not agreeing to them. This is always your answer, Alexandre: read the Holy Scripture I have just written, and if you don't agree, it means you didn't understand. This is your unvarying attitude, Alexandre: I wrote it

Re: [Gimp-user] Submitting a Gimp-2.8 splash screen

2012-05-03 Thread Marco Ciampa
On Thu, May 03, 2012 at 02:47:34AM +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 2:37 AM, RodDetmer wrote: How do i submit my XCF for an official splash screen image for Gimp-2.8? http://img815.imageshack.us/img815/5493/gimpsplash.png I realize they must have many, many

[Gimp-user] Install multiple versions

2012-05-03 Thread SteveK
What do I have to do to keep 2.6 installed along with 2.8? -- SteveK (via gimpusers.com) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-03 Thread Jonathan Kamens
I thought about this more overnight, and it occurs to me that I'm not even willing to concede that the new interface is the best possible design for the people at whom it is supposedly targeted. There's another way of accomplishing the same thing which to my mind would be better for GIMP's

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-03 Thread Jonathan Kamens
On 05/03/2012 07:11 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: In other words, just when we got rid of disruptive warnings you are siggesting to return one of them and add another one so that the first one wouldn't feel lonely? :) No, in other words, if the user's intent isn't clear, the program should

[Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-03 Thread DanBrown
In other words, just when we got rid of disruptive warnings you are siggesting to return one of them and add another one so that the first one wouldn't feel lonely? :) Alexandre Prokoudine I never found the need to flatten layers before exporting warnings to be particularly disruptive. Would be

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-03 Thread Steve Kinney
In 05/2012 a lot of people wrote: Wait, the Save dialog changed? OH NOES!! My position can be guessed from the workflow I have followed since somewhere the first ports of the GIMP to Win32 (Tor Lillqvist ruined me for life): 1. Open an image file. 2. Save as .xcf 3. [everything else] 4.

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-03 Thread Maurice
On Thursday 03 May 2012 14:48:47 Steve Kinney wrote: Look into imagemagick. It might be possible to fully automate all or a large part of that work. I already use Imagemagick's 'Convert' as the 1st part of my task, the 2nd part of which needs Gimp. -- /\/\aurice

Re: [Gimp-user] Install multiple versions

2012-05-03 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 11:37 +0200, SteveK wrote: What do I have to do to keep 2.6 installed along with 2.8? Depends on your Linux distribution. E.g. you may have to override an obsoletes. Or maybe you're using Microsoft Windows or Mac OS X? Liam -- Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C,

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-03 Thread Alex Vergara Gil
El 03/05/2012 09:42 a.m., Richard Gitschlag escribió: I'm on the fence. On one hand, I fully understand the reason for this change; on the other, it's such a sudden change (compared to every previous version of GIMP ever) that it CAN (and, really, should) be handled better: When you use

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-03 Thread Ken Warner
Or instead of the GIMP developers assuming that the users of GIMP are too stupid to know what they want, they could just let the user make all the decisions in a modal fashion. If I start GIMP and generate a New file, bring up the usual file dialog with all the types of files that GIMP knows

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-03 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 5:38 AM, Ken Warner wrote: Or instead of the GIMP developers assuming that the users of GIMP are too stupid to know what they want, they could just let the user make all the decisions in a modal fashion. If I start GIMP and generate a New file, bring up the usual file

Re: [Gimp-user] jpeg loss on multiple export (Was: HATE the new save vs. export behavior)

2012-05-03 Thread Gary Aitken
On 5/3/2012 8:15 AM, Jay Smith wrote: Jonathan, I hope that you realized that when editing a JPG, repeatedly saving/exporting to JPG (your step 4) reduces the quality (actually compresses / deletes data). Maybe this has been working for what you are doing, but I beleive it is contrary to what