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Isaac makes an important point (although I'm not sure it's the point he
intended to make :) ), there is really nothing in the definition of UNIX
itself that specifies or requires a home directory. It's a convention followed
by shells, primarily.
Seth
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alternative", I mean a way that
> users can configure GHC's notion of
> "home directory" at run-time on Windows.
>
> Truthfully, I don't think this should be the first
> priority for better Windows integration. Wouldn't
> our time be better spent on
/S specific behavior should be isolated
whenever possible, and such isolation is certainly possible here. Create a
class that defines, but does not implement, the required methods, and create an
instance for the O/S in use. That's clean, simple, and is guaranteed to not
break exist
Thanks.
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> > Wouldn't an eclipse plug in make more sense? (Unless
Wouldn't an eclipse plug in make more sense? (Unless one exists that I'm
unaware of.)
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Simon Marlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Krasimir,
>
> Yes, I'm sure that's true. I s
piler, indeed, detects the error at the
token "else", it should be straightforward to improve the error message.
Now, whether it is worth the effort is a separate question, and a judgement
call, but it is surely possible and not even terribly difficult.
Seth Kurtzberg
Software Engineer
Spe
Maybe it's from Chicago and doesn't see anything wrong with "them" in that
context. :)
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Is is possible that by upgrading the version of gcc changed? I've had
problems compiling ghc6.8.1 with some versions of gcc that have disappeared
by upgrading gcc.
Seth Kurtzberg
Software Engineer
Specializing in Security, Reliability, and the Hardware/Software Interface
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I misread it as 6.1. Sorry about that.
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On Sat, Nov 10, 200
6.10? I think that's a typo as the current version is 6.8.1. Or did I
misunderstand what you were saying?
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Specializing in Security, Reliability, and the Hardware/Software Interface
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ature of course. We don't know enough, to cite one quick
example we don't know whether the optimization behavior is related to ghc
behavior or to gcc behavior (although, of course, even if it is related to
gcc behavior there could be interesting code generation issues). It would
be fun t
ame behavior on more
than one box.
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Seth Kurtzberg wrote:
> At this point I don't bel
Run:
ghc-pkg list
See what it thinks about the status of happy.
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1-2%. The increased accuracy, of course, has a cost; on the current
platform a single testing round takes almost four hours, and I consider
three rounds to be the minimum required for thorough testing.
The point is that stand-alone memory testing is no longer useless, although
of course it is
<>
make[1]: *** [stage1/rename/RnSource.o] Error 1
make: *** [stage1] Error 1
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s ignored. Is this a documentation bug?
The interesting question is which way it should work. Obviously the
documentation should match the code, but it isn't obvious (at least to me)
whether it's better to modify the documentation or to change the behavior of
the code.
Is the behavior the sa
ule (maximal-munch) gives a certain
elegance that the proposals all lack.
I'd hate to see Haskell become complex all the way down just to fix a few
corner cases; I see this pattern of simplicity degerating through
well-intentioned attempts to fix things all over the language...
Stefan
I ag
2005, and then
attempted to install Visual Haskell. A fatal error occurs near the end of
the install.
I don't have the error text in front of me, but I'll send an email tomorrow
when I'll have access to it.
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It won't install with the full edition either.
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Subject: Re: Visual Haskell will
Anybody know what spam detection program is producing this absurd result, so
I can make sure I never even think about using it? It's the second such
email in two (or possibly three) days.
The potential of Bayesian filtering is vastly overstated, but this one has
to be a bug or usage error of some
I compile the programs, instead of trying to run them as scripts. Is there any
reason you prefer to interpret the scripts? I'm not saying it's not a
legitimate thing to do, just wondering why you prefer to do it that way.
Seth Kurtzberg
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:31:55 +
Fred
No disagreement; the text man page should also be a file in the distribution
with a name that suggests its contents.
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:18:20 +
Simon Marlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Marc Weber wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 01:57:10PM +0100, Marc Weber wrote:
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> I
there are situations for
which the function is inappropriate, but all of my deployed commercial programs
have functionality of this sort. Understand the risk, but don't hesitate to
use it.
Seth Kurtzberg
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with imperative languages, and, even if they do
not, the methodology should help you.
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On Mon, 5 Feb 2007 11:28:03 -0800 (PST)
Tays Soares <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I did at my master thesis a compiler that generates Haskell code. Now I ne
I'm joining this discussion a bit late, but ...
I can provide a build machines for netbsd and freebsd. I didn't see those on
the URL cited below. They are fairly common, so perhaps I just missed them.
In any event, if netbsd and/or freebsd will be helpful, please let me know.
Seth
On Mon, 6 Nov 2006 21:32:39 -0600
"Quan Ta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> how about searching code that's outside of the standard library? Hoogle
> doesn't seem to know about HaXml, or haskelldb for example (maybe I am
> missing something obvious)
You want to distinguish between capabilities, and
name.
What would be the correct way to get the effect that he expected from seq?
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x = x, y = y}" based on the fields for the
> particular constructor. It seems that if we have the "Point { .. }"
> pattern, we should also have the constructor version. What do people
> think?
>
> -Iavor
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> On 10/31/06, Seth Kurtzberg &l
On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:59:45 +0300
Bulat Ziganshin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello Neil,
>
> Tuesday, October 31, 2006, 4:04:23 AM, you wrote:
>
> >> > puns like Foo { .. } would be great too.
> >>
> >> I'd vote for enabling them with a command line switch, rather than by
> >> default, as th
On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 16:30:42 -0800
John Meacham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2006 at 12:11:23PM -, Simon Peyton-Jones wrote:
> > I always thought it was a mistake to remove record puns in H98. I would
> > not be against re-introducing them into GHC, since they appear to remain
anything I can do to help you narrow this down, let me know.
Seth
>
> Rich
>
> Seth Kurtzberg wrote:
> > What is your environment?
> >
> > My project (which is about 70% Haskell) makes extensive use of
> > threadDelay. I've not seen this behavior with 6.4.2
ng to bite me.
Seth Kurtzberg
On Mon, September 18, 2006 7:23 am, Rich Fought wrote:
> I've got some unit test code that forks off test processes using the
> 'system' function and then delays using 'threadDelay' to synchronize
> with the test process.
>
> T
If you repeat the make install step, things should work again.
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 09:59:31 -0700 (PDT)
Liang Guang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I originally used Redhat9.0, and the compilation is fine. But now I switched
> to Fedora 5, the compiler said it can not find prelude module!
> I use
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 21:45:21 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> GHC Task Ticket # 601 suggests replacing GMP with OpenSSL's Bignum library,
> BN.
> I have two questions concerning this:
>
> (1) Why not use the ARbitrary PRECision Computation Package (ARPREC)
> by David Bailey, Yozo Hida, Karthik J
If it turns out that there is a freebsd issue, I can help with that. Possibly
also with OSX.
Seth
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 11:50:58 +0100
"Simon Peyton-Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Folks
>
> GHC 6.4.2's threaded runtime system does not work right on
> Solaris
> MacOSX
> P
d. I'm curious about why one might compare thread IDs in such a way that
the rollover would cause the comparison to produce the "wrong" answer.
Seth
On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 12:48:42 +0100
Simon Marlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Seth Kurtzberg wrote:
> > Another related
Simon,
Thanks for the response.
The doc I was referring to is the library haddock doc for Control.Concurrent.
Seth
On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 12:41:52 +0100
Simon Marlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Seth Kurtzberg wrote:
> > I have a related question. The docs state that in some e
again
> ...
> one of the threads supposed to terminate (killThread n)
>
> AFAICT, the killThread action will arbitrarily choose one of the two.
>
> HTH
> Jost
>
> -- you wrote --
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 23:22:26 -0400
> From: Seth Kurtzberg <[EMA
Another related question. I have some threaded applications running which are
servers and run continuously. A thread is spawned for each new connection, and
the thread exits when the client terminates.
I've noticed that the thread ID increases. On one process I checked today I am
up to threa
I have a related question. The docs state that in some environments O/S
threads are used when the -threaded flag is used with ghc, and non-O/S threads
are used otherwise (presumably these are non-preemptive). Does this apply as
well to the worker threads that are the subject of this email?
On
would take care of the build
script problem, especially if it were also possible to use an environment
variable (instead of, or perhaps available in addition to, a command line flag)
to select the old behavior. (It isn't old, obviously, but I'm sure everyone
knows what I mean.)
Seth Kur
On Thu, 2005-12-08 at 09:40 +, Simon Marlow wrote:
> On 07 December 2005 19:57, Claus Reinke wrote:
>
> > there seem to be two issues here - can we agree on that at least?
> >
> > 1) scheduling non-sequential programs on sequential processors
> >
> > i wasn't arguing that the scheduler shoul
Frederik Eaton wrote:
But it isn't running "in a unix emulation environment." cygwin is
simply _not_ such an environment. The program is started by a different
shell, but that is _not_ an emulation environment.
Is it an elephant? A tree?
I guess the most accurate way
Juan Carlos Arevalo Baeza wrote:
Thanx! That's exactly what I needed. The swhich was undocumented! :-P
:-) I understand the caveats well enough. You can avoid the
exceptions very easily using this code:
---8<--
import Foreign.C.Types
import Foreign.C.S
John Skaller wrote:
On Tue, 2005-07-05 at 17:08 +0100, Simon Marlow wrote:
Thanks, downloading it now.. will try. What exactly is
a 'registered' build?
An "unregisterised" build generates plain C which is compiled with a C
compiler. The term "registerised" refers to a set of optimi
I don't disagree with the main thrust, but the idea that imperative
language are, in general, better about error messages is not, in my
opinion, true. There is a large variation, of course, but for certain
types of errors in an imperative language the compiler simply can't get
a correct handle
Keean Schupke wrote:
Is it possible to get GCC to use the intel C compiler (ICC) instead of gcc?
Do you mean is it possible to get GHC to use ICC?
Otherwise I don't understand the question.
Keean.
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Dinko Tenev wrote:
On 5/31/05, Daniel Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Why is ghc unable the determine the type of the Literal 0 in the
definition of g?
Answer: Since somewhere an instance e.g. New [(a,Double)] (Map a Int)
could be defined, leading to problems when threating 0 as
Johan Glimming wrote:
I forward this to the list in hope of getting feedback on the enclosed
output from failed 6.4 rc make on a Mac OS X system from any OS X
experts around:
Johan,
Could you post this to the list? There are people on the list who
know more about Mac OS X than I, and they shou
Simon Marlow wrote:
On 18 February 2005 10:17, Seth Kurtzberg wrote:
Simon, you'll never give up. The crashes are absolutely repeatable.
The fact that I haven't identified a deterministic way to reproduce
them does not in any way imply that a deterministic way to repr
Simon Marlow wrote:
On 18 February 2005 04:26, Seth Kurtzberg wrote:
At least this proves that it isn't a hardware problem. :)
Seth, you're a bit confused. This error from gcc is a deterministic,
repeatable, crash due to a known bug in gcc 2.95.
Remi Turk wrote:
On Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 11:29:41AM -, Simon Marlow wrote:
On 17 February 2005 11:12, Remi Turk wrote:
when compiling the new ghc pre-releases made my gcc 2.95.3 die
with "internal compiler error", I tried to compile it with gcc
3.4.3 (or rather
Simon Marlow wrote:
On 17 February 2005 12:43, Seth Kurtzberg wrote:
Simon Marlow wrote:
On 17 February 2005 12:05, Seth Kurtzberg wrote:
I'm not positive about 2.95, but I know that on 3.x it crashes in
different places, and even compiling different source files. With
eac
Seth Kurtzberg wrote:
Here are the bug reports:
http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=WAITING&bug_status=SUSPENDED&field0-0-0=product&type0-0-0=substring&value0-0-0=interna
Simon Marlow wrote:
On 17 February 2005 12:05, Seth Kurtzberg wrote:
I'm not positive about 2.95, but I know that on 3.x it crashes in
different places, and even compiling different source files. With
each 3.x release, they fix some of them, but others pop up to take
their place. Clearl
Malcolm Wallace wrote:
Seth Kurtzberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
There has to be one, because the problem occurs when you compile gcc
with gcc. I'll look for a specific bug report. It happens much more
frequently with 3.x than with 2.95, in my testing, but tha
Malcolm Wallace wrote:
Seth Kurtzberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
There has to be one, because the problem occurs when you compile gcc
with gcc. I'll look for a specific bug report. It happens much more
frequently with 3.x than with 2.95, in my testing, but that was not a
test o
Malcolm Wallace wrote:
Seth Kurtzberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
There has to be one, because the problem occurs when you compile gcc
with gcc. I'll look for a specific bug report. It happens much more
frequently with 3.x than with 2.95, in my testing, but that was not a
test o
Remi Turk wrote:
On Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 04:48:54AM -0700, Seth Kurtzberg wrote:
Simon Marlow wrote:
On 17 February 2005 11:12, Remi Turk wrote:
when compiling the new ghc pre-releases made my gcc 2.95.3 die
with "internal compiler
Simon Marlow wrote:
On 17 February 2005 11:49, Seth Kurtzberg wrote:
Simon Marlow wrote:
On 17 February 2005 11:12, Remi Turk wrote:
when compiling the new ghc pre-releases made my gcc 2.95.3 die
with "internal compiler error",
Simon Marlow wrote:
On 17 February 2005 11:12, Remi Turk wrote:
when compiling the new ghc pre-releases made my gcc 2.95.3 die
with "internal compiler error", I tried to compile it with gcc
3.4.3 (or rather, I thought it compiled with 3.4.1, and when that
died, compiled+installed gcc 3.4.3, trie
Duncan Coutts wrote:
On Wed, 2005-02-02 at 13:30 -0700, Seth Kurtzberg wrote:
Duncan Coutts wrote:
In these cases we cannot turn on traditional profiling since that would
interfere with the optimisations we are relying on to eliminate most of
the other memory allocations.
I don&#
Duncan Coutts wrote:
All,
I'm looking for advice on how to figure out why some piece of code is
allocating memory when I think it ought to be able to work in constant
space.
In these cases we cannot turn on traditional profiling since that would
interfere with the optimisations we are relying on to
I recently did a port of linux to ARM, and the floating point issue came up.
What happens is that if you don't do anything other than the default gcc
build, then every floating point call is converted to an O/S trap which
then does the floating point computation with the fixed point hardware
(be
I would prefer to keep them on the list. There are already a number of
different lists, and (of course IMO) I can't see a need to read _only_
feature requests, so why separate them?
Adding a tag to the email that would let maildrop or procmail deliver
it to a different folder would be a nice
> | > I am currently evaluating different languages for implementing an
> | > application which will have to manipulate large graphs representing
> | > the structure of programs and their evolution.
> |
> | > Speed is in fact a crucial criterium for the language choice.
>
> A wise man once warned a
more validity they
would still be seriously out of date.
Seth Kurtzberg
>
> How can you take the results of a comparison like that seriously:
>
> For example the "reverse file" test, here is the Haskell actually used:
>
> main = interact $ unlines . revers
Is there, or is anyone working on, ports for Mac OSX and/or Mac OS9?
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nice to get a warning
> if one tries to compile a stage-(N>1) compiler without GHCi support.
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;really necessary. One problem is that when someone submits a bug report, we'll have
>to start asking "do you have a .ghc file? what does it contain?". The current
>situation has the advantage of being simple.
>
> Can't you just alias ghc to 'ghc -package-conf ...
access?
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