Re: [nnhlug] wal-mart the next linux mall?

2000-11-02 Thread Kurth Bemis
a photocopy! wow..you must of gotten the dulx edition...mine was on masking tape on the back of the jewel case :-) ~kurth Kurth Bemis wrote: > true - however have you seen this distro package? i don't think that > theres much of a manual in there.in any event - what are they > (users)

Re: [nnhlug] wal-mart the next linux mall?

2000-11-02 Thread Kurth Bemis
true - however have you seen this distro package? i don't think that theres much of a manual in there.in any event - what are they (users) going to say when they buy it...install it...wipe thier windows drive..and then complain to ppl like us ( LUGs ). that often leaves a bad taste i

x2x

2000-11-02 Thread Derek D. Martin
At the last LUG meeting, some of us were discussing a program that allowed you to run an X session across multiple machines, acting together as one giant desktop (i.e. you can control multiple machines' desktops from one keyboard and mouse). The program is called x2x and apparently does origina

wal-mart the next linux mall?

2000-11-02 Thread Kurth Bemis
i sure you all know of all know of wall mart. who dosen't. i saw something on slash dot (http://www.slashdot.org/features/00/11/02/2324224.shtml) that prompted meto take a trip to my local wal-mart. sure enough there was mandrake 7.2 sitting on the shelf next to winME and MS Plus. wha

Re: Zombie

2000-11-02 Thread Derek D. Martin
On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote: > I had this problem a few months ago. For about two months straight, my > cable modem went down three or four times a day for anywhere from 10 > minutes to two hours. I called them every single time because they kept > telling me that there was no pr

Re: Zombie

2000-11-02 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier
I had this problem a few months ago. For about two months straight, my cable modem went down three or four times a day for anywhere from 10 minutes to two hours. I called them every single time because they kept telling me that there was no problem. Eventually they had to replace the head-end beca

Re: Zombie

2000-11-02 Thread Derek D. Martin
On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Derek D. Martin wrote: > > You're seeing this too? I was beginning to wonder if it was just my house (just > > built recently, could have been any number of problems). I'm over by 114 > > & 101...this seems to happen to me once a week, although it could have been more > > re

Re: hrm..su problems....

2000-11-02 Thread Derek D. Martin
On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Michael O'Donnell wrote: > > > >Well, the immediate problem is that when su(1) called > >initgroups(3), which is part of the process of changing > >your identity, it returned an error of EPERM. Given your > >previous crisis, I'd suspect you missed changing the > >ownership

Re: Zombie

2000-11-02 Thread Derek D. Martin
On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Peter Rival wrote: > > > > Anyone else seeing this? I am in the Manchester area. > > > > You're seeing this too? I was beginning to wonder if it was just my house (just > built recently, could have been any number of problems). I'm over by 114 > & 101...this seems to happen

Re: Zombie

2000-11-02 Thread Jerry Feldman
I've had mediaone for about 4 years. Shortly after I got Mediaone I had some strange outages and the customer service person diagnosed it as a problem with my tranceiver (my original cable modem was AUI). The service person came out, and checked the wires from the polse al the way to the cabl

Re: hrm..su problems....

2000-11-02 Thread Kurth Bemis
yep all my files look that way..all i need to do i set the suid bit on /bin/su and i think that i'll be set.. :-) ~kurth BTW anyone try mozilla M18? i'm using it now and i love it...i think that i need a faster chip tho...this cel400 isn't cuttig it... :-) ~kurth Benjamin Scott wro

Re: hrm..su problems....

2000-11-02 Thread Michael O'Donnell
>> SAME ErRoR meSsaGe He's is seEInG. shEeSh! iT'S aS >> iF yOU gUyS dIdn'T REaD MY MEsSaGe OR SOMETHing... > >What's the deal with the ransom-note font? No offense, but it is >very hard on the eyes, and as used above, technically incorrect. >Can you write in normal case like the rest of us?

Re: hrm..su problems....

2000-11-02 Thread Michael O'Donnell
>Well, the immediate problem is that when su(1) called >initgroups(3), which is part of the process of changing >your identity, it returned an error of EPERM. Given your >previous crisis, I'd suspect you missed changing the >ownership on something somewhere, or a file mode got >changed as well

Re: hrm..su problems....

2000-11-02 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Kurth Bemis wrote: > i can't su to root anymorelook what i get.. > > snip=== > usa:kurth[~]$ su > Password: > initgroups: Operation not permitted > usa:kurth[~]$ > ===snip > > i'm in the group root...i don't have a wheel gro

RE: MediaOne/RoadRunner/ATT/*WTCTTW lossage

2000-11-02 Thread Jeff Schreiber
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael O'Donnell) writes: > > > >>You're seeing this too? I was beginning to wonder if it was >>just my house (just built recently, could have been any number >>of problems). I'm over by 114 & 101...this seems to happen >>to me once a week, although it could have been more re

Re: In/Out web sw?

2000-11-02 Thread Jeffry Smith
Idon't know how good it is, but a web-based clendar system is webcalendar at: http://www.radix.net/~cknudsen/webcalendar/ jeff On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Paul Lussier wrote: > Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 14:22:43 -0500 > From: Paul Lussier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: In/Out web

MediaOne/RoadRunner/ATT/*WTCTTW lossage

2000-11-02 Thread Michael O'Donnell
>You're seeing this too? I was beginning to wonder if it was >just my house (just built recently, could have been any number >of problems). I'm over by 114 & 101...this seems to happen >to me once a week, although it could have been more recently. I love my cable modem when it works, but the

Re: /etc/passwd- ?

2000-11-02 Thread Bruce Dawson
I believe those files are created by pwconv (the password/shadow conversion utility). Quoting Paul Lussier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > ... > Anyone know what the /etc/passwd- and /etc/shadow- files are? They > appear to > be backup versions of /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow, but I can't seem to > find

Re: Zombie

2000-11-02 Thread Peter Rival
"Karl J. Runge" wrote: > On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Tom Laurie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I've helped a little with other gnhlug members to set up Concord Christian's > > Linux box connected to their Mediaone cable running IPChains. They got a > > call from ATT Broadband yesterday saying that t

Re: Netscraft measures uptime

2000-11-02 Thread Kevin D. Clark
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Interesting. I thought I heard that Linux switched over to sequence > numbers that were "more random" (e.g. to help defend against spoof > attacks where the attacker does not receive the reply packets from the > victim machine) > > Perhaps I heard incorrectly, or may

Kernel 2.4.0-test9

2000-11-02 Thread David Peterson
Has anyone had trouble getting the modules to build on alpha with this version of the kernel?? Everytime I try to build them it kicks out part of the code with no error message just after making the pcmcia directory (pcmcia is off in my kernel config). Dave Peterson ***

Re: Zombie

2000-11-02 Thread Karl J. Runge
On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Tom Laurie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've helped a little with other gnhlug members to set up Concord Christian's > Linux box connected to their Mediaone cable running IPChains. They got a > call from ATT Broadband yesterday saying that their computer was being used >

In/Out web sw?

2000-11-02 Thread Paul Lussier
Anyone know of any web based sw which keeps track of people and whether or not they're "in" or "out" of the office? Thanks, -- Seeya, Paul I'm in shape, my shape just happens to be pear! If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right! ***

/etc/passwd- ?

2000-11-02 Thread Paul Lussier
Hi all, Anyone know what the /etc/passwd- and /etc/shadow- files are? They appear to be backup versions of /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow, but I can't seem to find any documentation even acknowledging the existence of these files. Anyone know? Thanks, -- Seeya, Paul I'm in

Re: Netscraft measures uptime

2000-11-02 Thread Karl J. Runge
On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, "Kevin D. Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > IIRC, Linux does something similar. Other monolithic kernels probably > do similar things, but if you know what the scheme is, you can glean > uptime information from this information. Interesting. I thought I heard that Lin

Re: hrm..su problems....

2000-11-02 Thread Michael O'Donnell
>caps lock problems? i soLve yoUr PRobLem FoR You aND aLl yoU dO IS coMPlaIn...? ** To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following text in the *body* (*not* the subject line) of the letter: unsubscribe

Re: [nnhlug] Re: hrm..su problems....

2000-11-02 Thread Kurth Bemis
At 12:23 PM 11/2/2000 -0500, Michael O'Donnell wrote: caps lock problems? ~kurth > >i was working on installing proftpd so that my users > >can't get to the rest of the dir tree..any way...this > >means that i couldn't access the websites that I > >manage located in /www...so i made a new use

Re: hrm..su problems....

2000-11-02 Thread Michael O'Donnell
>i was working on installing proftpd so that my users >can't get to the rest of the dir tree..any way...this >means that i couldn't access the websites that I >manage located in /www...so i made a new user (web >master) and pointed the home dir to /wwwsimple >right? so then i did a "chown w

hrm..su problems....

2000-11-02 Thread Kurth Bemis
i have a story to telland its not pretty.. i was working on installing proftpd so that my users can't get to the rest of the dir tree..any way...this means that i couldn't access the websites that I manage located in /www...so i made a new user (web master) and pointed the home dir to

IBM sells 15,000 RedHat Linux servers to Japanese Chain Store

2000-11-02 Thread Tarsa, Greg
Big commercial sale. Read all about it. http://news.excite.com/news/zd/001102/07/small-step-for <> begin 600 Small step for IBM; giant leap for Linux.url M6T1%1D%53%1=#0I"05-%55),/6AT='`Z+R]N97=S+F5X8VET92YC;VTO;F5W M

Re: Netscraft measures uptime

2000-11-02 Thread Michael O'Donnell
>BSD-derived kernels start TCP sequence numbers at 1 (at boot >time) and then increment this number by 64,000 ever half second. >This number wraps every, umm... 9 hours or so. > >IIRC, Linux does something similar. Other monolithic kernels >probably do similar things, but if you know what the

Re: Netscraft measures uptime

2000-11-02 Thread Kevin D. Clark
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I haven't looked at their methods, but perhaps they're looking at the TCP > sequence numbers or port numbers the kernel of the host OS is picking? BSD-derived kernels start TCP sequence numbers at 1 (at boot time) and then increment this number by 64,000 ever half

An opening for Linux use by non-profits

2000-11-02 Thread Ed Lawson
In Wednesday's Concord Monitor was a story about a group in Bristol, NH called Public Access To Technology which is taking donated computers and seting them up for schools and nonprofit organizations. they have been active in establishing sites in communities for people to come and learn to use c

Re: Netscraft measures uptime

2000-11-02 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Karl J. Runge wrote: > Evidently they are picking out the uptime info from nuances in the TCP > and/or IP *headers*. Isn't this amazing? Anyone know how it works for > uptime? I haven't looked at their methods, but perhaps they're looking at the TCP sequence numbers or port

Re: Netscraft measures uptime

2000-11-02 Thread Karl J. Runge
Evidently they are picking out the uptime info from nuances in the TCP and/or IP *headers*. Isn't this amazing? Anyone know how it works for uptime? (OS detection is a bit more understandable, I believe they throw out-of-spec data at the machine and see what comes back, and compare to recorded

Re: Zombie

2000-11-02 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier
Benjamin Scott wrote: > > On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote: > > I disagree with this assessment. I think that Linux is very much "there" > > when it comes to compartmentalizing risk. > > Not the way the Orange Book defines it. Linux also doesn't support > Mandatory Access Controls

Re: Zombie

2000-11-02 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote: > I disagree with this assessment. I think that Linux is very much "there" > when it comes to compartmentalizing risk. Not the way the Orange Book defines it. Linux also doesn't support Mandatory Access Controls, so B-level certifications are right

Re: Zombie

2000-11-02 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier
Jeffry Smith wrote: > Basically, all the security is to prevent them from compromising your > system (OK, if you get into the B levels of security, you can do some > compartmentalizing of the risks, but I don't think Linux is there yet > - the closest I know of is to use User Mode Linux, everythi

Re: Netscraft measures uptime

2000-11-02 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Jeffry Smith wrote: > Netcraft is now tracking uptime of web servers: > > http://uptime.netcraft.com/today/top.max.html > > Note the # of Linux machines (with Solaris & BSD filling out the list, > except for downloads.microsoft.com at #29), as well as the # of days. Sola