Debian kernel / PCMCIA stuff for Wednesday meeting

2002-02-25 Thread Benjamin Scott
Hello list, As some of you may know, this Wednesday, we are going to be trying a hands-on, interactive meeting [1]. The goal is to get the laptops of those who are interested to work with WiFi/802.11b wireless cards. I am trying to collect binary packages for various distributions, so we can

YAFWQ

2002-02-25 Thread Steven W. Orr
== Yet Another FireWall Question. I'm doing really well here so I'm going to the well one more time :-) My new iptables firewall is up and seems to be running ok. I have a few bounced packets that I don't understand and I was wondering if someone might explain them to me. (I'm Mr. 146.115.228.

Dialup with RH72

2002-02-25 Thread Paul Iadonisi
With all the recent talk about gpg/pgp and how easy it is to forge email, some people are surely going to think this message is forged. Paul Iadonisi is actually going to gripe about Red Hat. ;-) For a moment, pretend I am a newbie Linux user (all right now, stop the snickering). I want to c

Re: `tar` question

2002-02-25 Thread ccb
So NFS is really not secure in some non-obvious ways. You put your email access passwords into .fetchmailrc and make sure it's locked down tight. You're using imap-ssl so they're not going out over the wire. You run fetchmail on your local system. It snarfs your .fetchmailrc from your NFS-mou

Re: `tar` question

2002-02-25 Thread Jerry Feldman
That is true. It also depends on where the command is initiated. Using the NFS method, tar is executed on the local system (eg. the server with the tape drive), and will be using the CPU and memory on that system. The remote system is involved only in file service. Running tar on the remote ma

Re: `tar` question

2002-02-25 Thread Tom Buskey
If SSH is required for security, I wouldn't use NFS. NFS isn't secure. Maybe his non routable address is in a hostile environment (web hosting backend, DMZ, etc) Also, you can turn on compression in SSH. ssh -C -c blowfish will compress & use the faster blowfish algorithm. "Jerry Feldman"

Re: Suspending process started in a new X terminal window

2002-02-25 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Benjamin Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > To rephrase my original question more precisely: How do I spawn a new > shell, with job control, and have that shell run an external program, > without replacing the shell? What do I have to do, run it though 'expect' > and have that type "pine" for

Re: Suspending process started in a new X terminal window

2002-02-25 Thread Michael O'Donnell
[ My apologies for suggesting actions you'd already tried because I failed to read your original msg more carefully ] >It turns what is normally invalid input into a hung process. Yah, they're probably infringing on some M$ patent there. >But the original problem is that I do not have j

Re: `tar` question

2002-02-25 Thread Mark Komarinski
You might be better off using dump. It does work over ssh (and rsh) and goes right to the tape drive of the remote machine. You have to setup RSA keys (I think) for ssh between the two hosts, but I used it a few years ago to back up all the servers to a central tape drive nightly. If you absolu

Re: `tar` question

2002-02-25 Thread Tom Buskey
Quick & dirty: tar cf - files | ssh B 'dd if=- of=/dev/st0' or ssh A tar cf - files | dd if=- of=/dev/st0 or something like that. Tar can work with rmt and there's probably a way to make that work with ssh, but I'm not sure how. Probably something like On A: ssh -L 441:B:441 /bin/sleep

Re: `tar` question

2002-02-25 Thread Paul Lussier
In a message dated: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 13:29:31 EST "Jerry Feldman" said: >Remember that ssh will add a significant overhead. More or less than the overhead of NFS? The nice thing with tar is that if you have a pretty hefty CPU in the local system, you can run it though gzip and compress it *

Re: `tar` question

2002-02-25 Thread Jerry Feldman
The simplest way to proceed is to NFS mount the drive from box A on Box B. (Since you are on a non-routable ip address behind some semblance of firewall, you should be secure). Then: mount tar cf /dev/mtxxx cd umount Remember that ssh will add a significant overhead. On 25 Feb 2002 at 1

Re: collocation service

2002-02-25 Thread Kurth Bemis
At 01:10 PM 2/25/2002 -0500, Bayard Coolidge USG wrote: look at our T-1 Usage http://www.usaexpress.net/noc/networkstat.php ~kurth >This may be slight OT, but if you want to know what might happen if >the colo vendor runs out of capacity and doesn't speak up: > >http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders

Re: `tar` question

2002-02-25 Thread Michael O'Donnell
One simpleminded approach I've used goes something like tar -cvzf - directory | ssh remoteMachine 'dd of=/dev/yourTapeDriveHere' ...and you can add "bs=1024k" to the dd commandline in order to buffer up 1Mb on the tape-equipped machine before each write to tape. **

Re: collocation service

2002-02-25 Thread Bayard Coolidge USG
This may be slight OT, but if you want to know what might happen if the colo vendor runs out of capacity and doesn't speak up: http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/2002/FCC-02-61A1.html The bigger they are, the harder they fall... Bayard

`tar` question

2002-02-25 Thread Thomas M. Albright
To all you tar gurus out there, I have a question. On box A (192.168.0.2) I have data that badly needs backing up. On box B (192.168.0.9) I have a tape drive. Can I use tar, over ssh, to back up box A to the tape on B? Typically I just `tar -cvzf file.tar.gz directory` I've never used a tape dr

Re: Suspending process started in a new X terminal window

2002-02-25 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Mon, 25 Feb 2002, Michael O'Donnell wrote: > Signals, process groups, sessions, orphans, controlling terminals, etc. > Here Be Dragons. Weyr? ;-) > As an experiment, I'd suggest trying the exact same scenarios but with vim > instead of pine, and then with xterm instead of gnome-termina

Re: Suspending process started in a new X terminal window

2002-02-25 Thread Paul Lussier
In a message dated: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 12:04:22 EST Michael O'Donnell said: >Signals, process groups, sessions, orphans, >controlling terminals, etc. Here Be Dragons. > >As an experiment, I'd suggest trying the exact >same scenarios but with vim instead of pine, >and then with xterm instead I tr

Re: Suspending process started in a new X terminal window

2002-02-25 Thread Michael O'Donnell
Signals, process groups, sessions, orphans, controlling terminals, etc. Here Be Dragons. As an experiment, I'd suggest trying the exact same scenarios but with vim instead of pine, and then with xterm instead of gnome-terminal. I'm guessing that pine's the culprit, though I couldn't test that

Re: Suspending process started in a new X terminal window

2002-02-25 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Mon, 25 Feb 2002, mike ledoux wrote: > Add 'use-subshell-for-suspend' to your feature-list in ~/.pinerc. That is actually my current work-around for the Pine lossage. But it screws up my work habits for when I log in remotely via SSH and run Pine from a terminal interactively. Plus, the or

Re: Suspending process started in a new X terminal window

2002-02-25 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Mon, 25 Feb 2002, Paul Lussier wrote: > I believe that wben you use -e, you're exec'ing the process and thereby > *replacing* any shell that may have existed beforehand. It would be the > same as if you did: > > gnome-terminal 'bash' > exec pine Yah, okay, so how do I get it to

Audrey Hacking

2002-02-25 Thread Paul Lussier
Does anyone know anything about this, and if so, can you tell me where to begin? I just got one of these things yesterday (a gift) and have gone to audreyhacking.com, but the documentation there seems to be far less abundant than what I'm used to in the Linux world :( If you don't know what I

Re: Suspending process started in a new X terminal window

2002-02-25 Thread Paul Lussier
In a message dated: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 11:01:39 EST Benjamin Scott said: >Hey folks, > > I use GNOME. I have a few icons on my panel set to spawn processes in a >terminal window. The commands look something like this: > > gnome-terminal -e 'pine -i' I believe that wben you use -e, you're

Suspending process started in a new X terminal window

2002-02-25 Thread Benjamin Scott
Hey folks, I use GNOME. I have a few icons on my panel set to spawn processes in a terminal window. The commands look something like this: gnome-terminal -e 'pine -i' The problem is, when I hit [CTRL]+[Z] in any of these windows, the foreground process suspends, but I do not get a

Re: collocation service

2002-02-25 Thread Kurth Bemis
At 10:28 PM 2/24/2002 -0500, Ferenc Tamas Gyurcsan wrote: We offer co-location starting at $85 monthly for 20 Gig transfer. Don't look on our website yet..we're updating it. ~kurth >Hi everybody, > >I'm looking for a company that would do collocation service with linux >servers. It doesn't

Re: collocation service

2002-02-25 Thread Ray Cote
I've not price-shopped in a long time so I cannot compare, but I continue to be pleased with the service provided by Destek in Nashau (www.Destek.net). Ray At 10:28 PM -0500 2/24/02, Ferenc Tamas Gyurcsan wrote: >Hi everybody, > >I'm looking for a company that would do collocation service with

RE: collocation service

2002-02-25 Thread Rob
G4 Communications (Metro2000) in Manchester has pretty decent colocation prices. Check out their prices www.colocenter.com. I've had a machine up there for quite some time and I've worked with them for T1 installations too. They are a great bunch and really helpful. Rob. -Original Message---