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> KT> A buddy of mine just let me know that Kevin Mitnick will be
> speaking KT> at Softpro books in Marlboro @6:30pm.
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The film "Freedom Downtime," made by 2600 about the "Free Kevin" campaign
and some other hacker issues, is wonderful. I've watched it several
ti
On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 07:04:03PM -0500, Tom Buskey wrote:
> "Roger H. Goun" said:
>>On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 12:52:16PM -0500, Tom Buskey wrote:
>>> Unfortunately, VMware changed the file format of thier virtual disks
>>> going from 2.x to 3.x. This doesn't work with the .vmdk files. The old
>>>
Okay, here's my little 2600 rant :)
2600 used to be a good magazine, but now all they are is a political
front that is a bit to extreme for me. The magazine and the radio show
they have used to be all about hacking, messing around with stuff, and
just general fun with computer and electronics. Now
I'd like to thank Ben for setting up a really great meeting last night.
I won't speak about my talk on X10, but Travis & Co were really good;
providing lots of useful info on antenna and 802.11b, and even giving a
demo!
Thanks Ben, and thank you to all who came!
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Heh, Thanks :)
Hopefully we'll be able to do a little better and a little more in-depth
talk and be actually presenters rather then just tagging along.. Perhaps
for January since it looks like we might have the beta for Manchester
Wireless up.
We can go over stuff like Kismet a little better, as
On 13 Nov 2002, Bruce Dawson wrote:
> I'd like to thank Ben for setting up a really great meeting last night.
> I won't speak about my talk on X10, but Travis & Co were really good;
> providing lots of useful info on antenna and 802.11b, and even giving a
> demo!
>
> Thanks Ben, and thank you to a
find / | sed -e 's;^.*/;;'
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How about this:
#!/usr/bin/perl
y/A-Ma-mN-Zn-z/N-Zn-zA-Ma-m/, print while ();
__END__
Uryyb jbeyq
Also doubles as a handy ROT13 script for decoding naughty words like
this: Qvtvgny Zvyyraavhz Pbclevtug Npg
--kevin
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On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, at 10:08pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Python hacker
'Hello, world.'
Transcript of my shell session:
$ cat > hw.py
'Hello, world.'
^D
$ python hw.py
$
What did I do wrong?
Omigosh. I must have been too cryptic. What was "wrong"
In a message dated: 13 Nov 2002 10:06:09 EST
Kevin D. Clark said:
>Also doubles as a handy ROT13 script for decoding naughty words like
>this: Qvtvgny Zvyyraavhz Pbclevtug Npg
Url, jngpu lbhe ynathntr! Guvf vf n snzvyl yvfg!
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Hi,
I have a file that contains the redirected output of a big "find"
command. I want to learn how to quickly scan this file for unique
file names, and while I could write a lengthy Perl one-liner, I was
wondering if it could be done more simply with awk. But since I
have never used awk, I w
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On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, at 5:28pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Put another way, if there is a need continuing into the future
to keep up with proprietary produccts VMWare may be a better
choice. Win4Lin's design target is more tightly focused.
Remember, for instance, that Wi
Price, Erik wrote:
> ...
If not, the other alternative I was thinking of was the awk
equivalent of
1. set the field separator to a slash
2. awk the file for the last field.
I've figured out how to set the field separator (from the man page)
but it seems I need to use a numeric variable to repr
> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Sconce [mailto:sconce@;in-spec-inc.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 10:20 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Humor: The Evolution of a Programmer
>
> Extra credit, what will the following do (if you've just stepped
> through the stateme
> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Polhamus [mailto:meplists@;earthlink.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 11:12 AM
> To: Price, Erik
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: awk assistance
>
>
> Price, Erik wrote:
> > ...
> > If not, the other alternative I was thinking of was the
Be aware this catches all last fields... *including* directories. Use `find -type f`
if you want to pre-filter anything that isn't a file.
Most UNIX literature gives awk very little coverage (a pity). The awk User Guide is
helpful:
http://www.gnu.org/manual/gawk-3.1.1/gawk.html
> -Original
Price, Erik writes:
-Original Message-
From: Bill Sconce [mailto:sconce@;in-spec-inc.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 10:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Humor: The Evolution of a Programmer
Extra credit, what will the following do (if you've just
stepped through th
> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Sconce [mailto:sconce@;in-spec-inc.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 12:09 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Humor: The Evolution of a Programmer
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>
> Price, Erik writes:
>
> >
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Bill Sco
Bill Sconce said:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>> As for the question of "Should they?", I think the potential
>> market for such emulation environments is good for the foreseeable
>> future. Microsoft is going to be around for a long time (remember,
>> there are companies still running softwar
"Scott Prive" said:
>Be aware this catches all last fields... *including* directories. Use `find -t
>ype f` if you want to pre-filter anything that isn't a file.
>
>Most UNIX literature gives awk very little coverage (a pity). The awk User Gui
>de is helpful:
>http://www.gnu.org/manual/gawk-3.1.1/
In a message dated: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:21:02 EST
"Price, Erik" said:
>The two things I like best about Python are its ease of use in OO
>design and implementation (this is one place where I wouldn't go
>near Perl) and its interactive interpreter. It is just as you say,
>a great way to shave
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:pll@;lanminds.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 12:37 PM
> To: Price, Erik
> Cc: Bill Sconce; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Humor: The Evolution of a Programmer
>
>
>
> While I agree that Perl's OO features were an afte
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Price, Erik wrote:
=>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:pll@;lanminds.com]
=>> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 1:04 PM
=>>
=>> In a message dated: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:53:45 EST
=>> "Price, Erik" said:
=>>
=>> >I have a file that contains the redirected output of a big "find
find / -type f | while read f; do basename $f; done
.
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On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 03:28:38PM -0500, you wrote:
> find / -type f | while read f; do basename $f; done
find / -type f -exec basename {} \;
:-)
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In a message dated: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:30:28 EST
"Price, Erik" said:
>> Why must it be lengthy?
>>
>> find ./ -type f | perl -F'/' -ane 'print "$F[$#F]";'
>>
>> seems to do the trick just fine. And if you want to weed out=20
>> duplicates pipe the output through 'uniq' with your choice of
In a message dated: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:28:38 EST
Michael O'Donnell said:
>find / -type f | while read f; do basename $f; done
Yeah, but that's neither perl nor awk, the only 2 languages mentioned
in the original post :)
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On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 08:12, Travis Roy wrote:
> Okay, here's my little 2600 rant :)
>
> 2600 used to be a good magazine, but now all they are is a political
> front that is a bit to extreme for me. The magazine and the radio show
> they have used to be all about hacking, messing around with stuff
"Price, Erik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> BUT ... in defense of Perl, which I use very often ... if I really
> need a one-liner, it is my first choice. I don't think Python
> even has a "-e" equivalent, though it might. I wouldn't use it
> if it did, because it's too verbose and depends on li
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:pll@;lanminds.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 3:15 PM
> To: Price, Erik
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: awk assistance
>
> Obviously the 'find ./ -type f' portion could be replaced with
> 'cat f
"Steven W. Orr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Everyone starts with the Camel book but everyone soon realizes that it's
> pretty crappy to try to learn from. It's best left as a reference
> book.
I dunno, it worked for me. I disagree with your assessment.
> The BEST book for learing perl that
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin D. Clark [mailto:kclark@;cetaceannetworks.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 3:20 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Humor: The Evolution of a Programmer
> Personally I prefer {}'s to delimit code blocks.
Most people agree with you. I d
Howdy. Sorry 'bout the horrible pun. Anyway, I'm looking to install a
(psuedo-)Bayesian spam filter, but the directions on how to configure
MySQL are... lacking. Here they are:
..."Inside you will find 'bayesspam.sql'. This file contains the table
definitions that BayesSpam needs to added to a
On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 16:57, Thomas Charron wrote:
> Quoting Charlie Farinella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > This appears to have worked, thank you. We're a little in the dark
> > here
> > about how to do what we're trying to do. For testing purposes, we
> > need
> > to require users within the bui
> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Garman [mailto:sgarman@;einstein.unh.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 4:51 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: "Freedom Downtime" [was: Kevin Mitnick speaking at
> MarlboroSoftpro tonight... (fwd)]
>
>
> On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 08:12, Trav
On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 18:52, Scott Prive wrote:
> > It would seem pretty ironic to me if they released it on DVD,
> > considering they lost a lawsuit for posting the DeCSS source code on
> > their web site.
>
> How would this be ironic? If they applied CSS to the DVD, I could see the irony...
>b
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, at 1:03pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'd argue that 'awk' is "The Old Way" and has been replaced by Perl as
> "The Way" :)
Generally true, I expect, but there are still reasons to use awk. One
reason is if one has to deal with lots of crufty old Unix systems that don't
hav
On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 05:53:17PM -0500, you wrote:
> Howdy. Sorry 'bout the horrible pun. Anyway, I'm looking to install a
> (psuedo-)Bayesian spam filter, but the directions on how to configure
> MySQL are... lacking. Here they are:
>
> ..."Inside you will find 'bayesspam.sql'. This file co
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, at 3:19pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Seriously, earlier posts were correct. When Python evaluates
> an expression at the interactive prompt ...
Ah. All the other "examples" in the OP were intended to be run as files,
so I did the same thing to your snippet. It never occu
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, at 5:08pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> It is OFTEN easier in Python to try it than to guess.
> (Also, easier to try it than to RTFM... :)
While I agree with you, it is with some trepidation. Learning a system
without learning the hows and whys behind it can lead to "cargo
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, at 12:36pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The thing I really like about perl is it's ease of use on the command
> line. I can easily do things like:
>
> perl -de 'print;'
Why so verbose?
perl -de ''
;-)
> This is one of the things that's nice about perl, t
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, at 5:08pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> It is OFTEN easier in Python to try it than to guess.
>> (Also, easier to try it than to RTFM... :)
>
> While I agree with you, it is with some trepidation. Learning a system
>without learning the hows and why
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, at 10:26pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> ... "cargo cult programming" ...
>
> I like that term.
Just to prevent any mistaken impressions, let me state that it is not
original to me. See:
http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/entry/cargo-cult-programming.html
See also:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, at 10:26pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> ... "cargo cult programming" ...
>>
>> I like that term.
>
> Just to prevent any mistaken impressions, let me state that it is not
>original to me. See:
Noted.
>> When I was in High School I tried to learn
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, at 11:47pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> all available. Or so I'm told -- I base all this on the moral equivalent
>> of marketing brochures. ;-)
>
> Use of the terms "moral" and "marketing" in the same sentence is strictly
> prohibited.
You're right. I guess that would th
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