Re: ABM Considered Harmful (was: piercing corporate)

2004-02-08 Thread bmcculley
Dan Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >I can configure FOSS products to be as insecure as the worst Microsoft >issues. I can configure Microsoft products to be almost as secure as the >best FOSS products. (I still think FOSS has the edge there, due to their >flexibility and accessibility.) I

Re: piercing corporate FW outbound

2004-02-08 Thread p . lussier
In a message dated: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 06:00:37 +0900 Derek Martin said: >Damn, foiled by annoying reply-to headers. This reply was intended to >be private. Gee, that's _never_ happened to *you* before ;) > No harm was done in this case, The only "harm" I've ever seen you cause has been to caus

Re: Python help

2004-02-08 Thread p . lussier
In a message dated: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 09:33:19 EST Erik Price said: >Here's the Java implementation. Very cool! Thanks! > Java requires even more verbosity. This is my general impression of Java. Is the verbosity a good thing or not? It seems verbose to the point of redundancy. Is this he

RE: [ON Topic] How 'bout them Linux? Ain't they somethin?!

2004-02-08 Thread Ted Roche
maddog: Thanks for an on-topic post! I think you've asked some great questions. I look forward to the discussion. I'm the guy who showed up in Durham two years ago and suggested that New User night would be a good idea. I haven't made it back to a meeting since. It's a long story. I'll try har

Re: dialup to MSN with Linux?

2004-02-08 Thread Travis Roy
I also would suggest MV.. They are the best (and not just because I worked for them 5 years ago). Just to give you an idea.. I have DSL (768/768 ADSL). They probably give me a few more static IPs then usual because I'm still friends with a lot of the people there, but I'm currently only using 2

Re: ABM Considered Harmful (was: piercing corporate)

2004-02-08 Thread Derek Martin
On Sat, Feb 07, 2004 at 11:11:03PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Case in point: One of your recent messages made reference to VBscript and > Windows Scripting Host as "Virus Propagation Languages". If you want to > call them tools for virus propagation, then you must also call Perl, Python,

Re: Reply-To (was: piercing corporate)

2004-02-08 Thread Derek Martin
Please note that originally, I heeded Mike's request to move this discussion off-list. However, since you continued it here, and raised points which I feel require response, I will post here on this topic one last time. I will not post in this thread again (and I'm sure the list will thank me).

Re: dialup to MSN with Linux?

2004-02-08 Thread Dan Jenkins
MV Communications is good. (603-629-) (www.mv.net) -- Dan Jenkins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Rastech Inc., Bedford, NH, USA --- 1-603-624-7272 *** Technical Support for over a Quarter Century ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnh

still need a speaker

2004-02-08 Thread David Long
We have not yet found a speaker for the Nashua MerriLUG meeting we hope to hold on 2/25. As always, if anyone has a topic they'd like to present please email me about it. Thanks, -dl -- David Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> JumpShift, LLC ___ gnhlug-discuss

Re: ABM Considered Harmful (was: piercing corporate)

2004-02-08 Thread Dan Jenkins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't use Linux because it's not Microsoft. I use Linux because it's Linux. Precisely my attitude. I try to use the right tool for each job. Linux is a great tool. I use it because it is a great tool. Sometimes I use other tools (like Microsoft or Apple). I'd be a p

Re: dialup to MSN with Linux?

2004-02-08 Thread Bill Mullen
On Sun, 8 Feb 2004, Matt Oquist wrote: > 2. does anyone have a local dialup ISP they recommend over MSN (which >costs $20/mo)? If by "local" you mean NH, friends of mine have had good service from: http://www.bit-net.com $20/mo./unlimited, plenty of access numbers, not Linux-phobic. HTH!

Re: ABM Considered Harmful (was: piercing corporate)

2004-02-08 Thread Michael ODonnell
>> I [have] a fairly secure home network (protected by [A] a firewall >> and [B] the total absence of Microsoft products ... > > A word of advice: As a professional admin and security annalist Historian, right? ;-> > who works with both Microsoft and FOSS products, I find your > attitude tow

dialup to MSN with Linux?

2004-02-08 Thread Matt Oquist
I'm helping a Win32-using friend by installing Linux on her computer. I installed Mandrake and everything is working fine; I downloaded the free driver for her Winmodem from linuxant (she'll upgrade to the $15, uncapped version if she's happy with Linux), and I can successfully dial up to my family

Re: Reply-To (was: piercing corporate)

2004-02-08 Thread paul.cour1
Gosh! That was pretty clear to me ... Thanks -pc > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: 2004/02/07 Sat PM 10:53:43 EST > To: Greater NH Linux User Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Reply-To (was: piercing corporate) > > On Sat, 7 Feb 2004, at 6:00am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I therefore a