Thoughts on the OpenMoko Project?

2008-05-09 Thread David Samson
Anybody have any thoughts on this open source project, OpenMoko? I recently heard about it. They seem to be trying to recreate the development stack for cellular phones and PDA's but on an open source format. here is a link to their site if anyone is interested.

Re: Thoughts on the OpenMoko Project?

2008-05-09 Thread Neil Joseph Schelly
On Friday 09 May 2008 08:33, David Samson wrote: Anybody have any thoughts on this open source project, OpenMoko? I recently heard about it. They seem to be trying to recreate the development stack for cellular phones and PDA's but on an open source format. here is a link to their site if

Re: Thoughts on the OpenMoko Project?

2008-05-09 Thread Chip Marshall
On May 09, 2008, Neil Joseph Schelly sent me the following: I've been waiting patiently for the finished product. They've run into more than their share of delays, but continue to make progress. When the fnished phone (with wifi/bluetooth/accelerometers/etc) is released, I'll surely be

Palm vs other smart phones/PDAs

2008-05-09 Thread Tom Buskey
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Neil Joseph Schelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been waiting patiently for the finished product. They've run into more than their share of delays, but continue to make progress. When the fnished phone (with wifi/bluetooth/accelerometers/etc) is released,

Re: Palm vs other smart phones/PDAs

2008-05-09 Thread Brian Chabot
Tom Buskey wrote: IMO, the original Palm UI and apps still hold up very well. I've been using Palm with Unix since I got a Pilot 1000. I have a Blackberry for work and my wife uses an iPhone. I keep an old Handspring Visor Pro handy, myself. I like that I can back it up to a CF card

Edward Screven Interview

2008-05-09 Thread Richard Soule
What happens when a multi-billion dollar corporation gets involved in Linux? http://linux-foundation.org/weblogs/openvoices/edward-screven/ I thought folks might find some of the above interesting. If not, then please feel free to forget that you read it. Rich

Re: Thoughts on the OpenMoko Project?

2008-05-09 Thread Neil Joseph Schelly
On Friday 09 May 2008 09:05, Chip Marshall wrote: Unfortunately, I don't think OpenMoko will catch on. It's going to be competeing with Google's Android platform, which is getting a lot more buzz, simply because it's Google. Isn't Android just a software platform though? Maybe I've misread.

Re: Palm vs other smart phones/PDAs

2008-05-09 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Fri, 9 May 2008 09:07:08 -0400 Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Neil Joseph Schelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been waiting patiently for the finished product. They've run into more than their share of delays, but continue to make progress.

Re: Palm vs other smart phones/PDAs

2008-05-09 Thread Neil Joseph Schelly
On Friday 09 May 2008 09:07, Tom Buskey wrote: IMO, the original Palm UI and apps still hold up very well. I've been using Palm with Unix since I got a Pilot 1000. I have a Blackberry for work and my wife uses an iPhone. That is true - I've been using Palms for nearly a decade now and

Re: Thoughts on the OpenMoko Project?

2008-05-09 Thread Chip Marshall
On May 09, 2008, Neil Joseph Schelly sent me the following: Isn't Android just a software platform though? Maybe I've misread. The interesting thing about OpenMoko is the hardware. The software ought to be reasonably capable, but I can imagine buying an OpenMoko and loading both the OpenMoko

Re: Palm vs other smart phones/PDAs

2008-05-09 Thread Coleman Kane
On Fri, 2008-05-09 at 09:45 -0400, Neil Joseph Schelly wrote: On Friday 09 May 2008 09:07, Tom Buskey wrote: IMO, the original Palm UI and apps still hold up very well. I've been using Palm with Unix since I got a Pilot 1000. I have a Blackberry for work and my wife uses an iPhone.

Re: Palm vs other smart phones/PDAs

2008-05-09 Thread Coleman Kane
On Fri, 2008-05-09 at 09:28 -0400, Brian Chabot wrote: Tom Buskey wrote: IMO, the original Palm UI and apps still hold up very well. I've been using Palm with Unix since I got a Pilot 1000. I have a Blackberry for work and my wife uses an iPhone. I keep an old Handspring Visor Pro

Re: Palm vs other smart phones/PDAs

2008-05-09 Thread Mark Komarinski
On 05/09/2008 11:18 AM, Coleman Kane wrote: I've got a Treo 680 and I've liked it pretty well. Occasionally it resets itself (like acouple times per month), but not the kind of reset where it loses all data, it just reboots. I got it second-hand though, so the prev. owner might have dropped it

Re: Palm vs other smart phones/PDAs

2008-05-09 Thread Neil Joseph Schelly
On Friday 09 May 2008 11:28, Mark Komarinski wrote: On 05/09/2008 11:18 AM, Coleman Kane wrote: I've got a Treo 680 and I've liked it pretty well. Occasionally it resets itself (like acouple times per month), but not the kind of reset where it loses all data, it just reboots. I got it

Re: Palm vs other smart phones/PDAs

2008-05-09 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Brian Chabot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Palm dropped the ball IMO when they split their hardware and software groups apart. I don't know if that was a cause, or just a symptom of their lack of direction, but Palm has certainly been sinking for years and years

Re: Palm vs other smart phones/PDAs

2008-05-09 Thread Tom Buskey
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Brian Chabot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Palm dropped the ball IMO when they split their hardware and software groups apart. I don't know if that was a cause, or just a symptom of their lack

Re: Palm vs other smart phones/PDAs

2008-05-09 Thread Neil Joseph Schelly
On Friday 09 May 2008 19:33, Tom Buskey wrote: Well, try finding WiFi in a Palm. Or any smartphone. iPhone has one that's a nice boost in speed. I'm not sure how useful SSH or other net apps on the Palm are w/o a wireless network, SSH is the most used thing on my Palm after the

Re: Palm vs other smart phones/PDAs

2008-05-09 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 7:33 PM, Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They're still essentially shipping the same code they were in 2004, with only very minor updates. Their Palm Desktop software still isn't enterprise friendly, and also I haven't used it in years. I sync to Outlook, jpilot,

Re: Palm vs other smart phones/PDAs

2008-05-09 Thread Tom Buskey
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 9:00 PM, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 7:33 PM, Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They're still essentially shipping the same code they were in 2004, with only very minor updates. Their Palm Desktop software still isn't enterprise