[GNHLUG] BBS: The Documentary - Hampton - Wed July 16/23/30

2008-07-15 Thread Ben Scott
What : BBS - The Documentary film Where: HoloDek, Hampton, NH Dates: Wed July 9, 16, 23, 30 Time : 7:00 PM The Ubuntu Local Community Team of NH is presenting "BBS: The Documentary", as a four-part film series, Wednesdays evenings throughout July. The documentary covers the history of BBSes -

Re: System Recovery

2008-07-15 Thread Ben Scott
On 7/15/08, Jarod Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Its all the same bring-up bits, but passing in the 'rescue' flag should > replace all "installer" strings with "rescue environment" ... Could be > ... that particular string doesn't get replaced... Google results lead me to believe that is th

Re: System Recovery

2008-07-15 Thread Ben Scott
On 7/15/08, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yah, me too. If you're going to be wiping things clean anyway, you > may want to run some basic confidence tests on the system. I suggest: Oh, and if your computer hardware OEM/VAR/etc provides any diagnostics, run those, too. -- Ben ___

Re: System Recovery

2008-07-15 Thread Ben Scott
On 7/15/08, Jim Kuzdrall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Curious. Why not use the non-destructive badblocks write option -n? Background: The "non-destructive write test" goes through the disk, one block at a time, reading the existing contents into memory, then writing and reading test patterns

Re: System Recovery

2008-07-15 Thread Jim Kuzdrall
On Tuesday 15 July 2008 19:08, Ben Scott wrote: > Run a destructive write test on the disk. (WARNING: This will > *DESTROY ALL DATA* on the disk.) Boot a working rescue/install CD > and get a shell prompt, and then run "badblocks -s -v -w /dev/foo", > where "foo" is the name of the whole-disk

Re: System Recovery

2008-07-15 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 19:28 -0400, Tom Buskey wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Jarod Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 15:02 -0400, Ben Scott wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Labitt, Bruce > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: System Recovery

2008-07-15 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 18:43 -0400, Ben Scott wrote: > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Jarod Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ew, that sounds... bad. Although it sounds like it didn't actually go > > into the rescue env. but rather tried to install, based on the "install > > exited abnormally"

Re: System Recovery

2008-07-15 Thread Tom Buskey
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Jarod Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 15:02 -0400, Ben Scott wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Labitt, Bruce > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I was running as a user. NOT root. > > > > Worrysome. > > > > Though, come to

Re: System Recovery

2008-07-15 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 6:41 PM, Labitt, Bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't have a problem with a fresh start ... except that I have > no idea what really hosed me to begin with. Yah, me too. If you're going to be wiping things clean anyway, you may want to run some basic confidence tes

Re: Network/Phone/Coax supply store

2008-07-15 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Dan Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there a store locally that tailors to networks? Define "locally". The usual suspects are Graybar, Anixter, and Wesco. I know there are branches in the greater NH area. I can also say SmartHome (http://www.smarthome.

Re: System Recovery

2008-07-15 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Jarod Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ew, that sounds... bad. Although it sounds like it didn't actually go > into the rescue env. but rather tried to install, based on the "install > exited abnormally" message. I think part of the "installer" is still in cha

Re: System Recovery

2008-07-15 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Labitt, Bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It installed some ata_piix ?? stuff That's the driver module for your motherboard's SATA adapter. Normal. (The name is vestigial; "PIIX" was some old Intel IDE controller chipset, circa 1995.) > then back to black scre

RE: System Recovery

2008-07-15 Thread Labitt, Bruce
Right now, I don't have another working running system (linux) at work. I don't have a problem with a fresh start, (time to recreate everything is a pain) except that I have no idea what really hosed me to begin with. That is the part that is scary... Bruce -Original Message- From: [EMAI

Re: System Recovery

2008-07-15 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Labitt, Bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm thinking at this point perhaps I should detach the problem 80GB disk > and fresh install 5.2 on the 300GB disk. That is likely to be the easiest way. At the very least, it will make trouble-shooting the problem disk

RE: System Recovery

2008-07-15 Thread Labitt, Bruce
I'm thinking at this point perhaps I should detach the problem 80GB disk and fresh install 5.2 on the 300GB disk. Afterwards I could attach the old 80GB disk and see if I can extract anything. Does this sound like it would be the safest course of action at this point? -Original Message-

RE: System Recovery

2008-07-15 Thread Labitt, Bruce
How many physical hard disk drives are part of this system? [Labitt, Bruce] Two. The first drive 80GB has the system on it. Are there any hardware RAID controllers or such in use?[Labitt, Bruce] no. > It appears I can access /data and its contents. Appearances can be deceiving. Have you run

Re: Network/Phone/Coax supply store

2008-07-15 Thread Bill Mullen
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:21:55 -0400, Dan Miller wrote: > Is there one store were I could get about a 6U swinging rack, cat6 > patch panel, cat6 spools, cat6 plugs, and then coax plugs and patch > panel or pluggable patch panel? Check out LightYear Cable in Manchester, (603) 647-5920. http://www.l

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RE: System Recovery

2008-07-15 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 16:25 -0400, Labitt, Bruce wrote: > I just ran the SL5.2 CD1 and typed linux rescue. It ran a bunch of > stuff and got to a colored (bright blue with red writing) display. It > installed some ata_piix ?? It loaded the ata_piix module, as it detected you had a controller dri

Network/Phone/Coax supply store

2008-07-15 Thread Dan Miller
I'm thinking about doing some wiring of data, phone, and coax and want a rack to for all this stuff. I can find various parts but some don't appear to be for a rack unit. Is there a store locally that tailors to networks? I'm looking for cat6 plugs and patch panels. I would also like a RF di

RE: System Recovery

2008-07-15 Thread Labitt, Bruce
I just ran the SL5.2 CD1 and typed linux rescue. It ran a bunch of stuff and got to a colored (bright blue with red writing) display. It installed some ata_piix ?? stuff then back to black screen a long list of hex addresses? then install exited abnormally [1/1] sending termination signals...don

Re: System Recovery

2008-07-15 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 15:02 -0400, Ben Scott wrote: > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Labitt, Bruce > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was running as a user. NOT root. > > Worrysome. > > Though, come to think of it, aren't some disc-recording types of > programs normally installed SUID root

Re: System Recovery

2008-07-15 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Labitt, Bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was running as a user. NOT root. Worrysome. Though, come to think of it, aren't some disc-recording types of programs normally installed SUID root? > There maybe a typo in there, I had to copy it from one screen t

RE: System Recovery

2008-07-15 Thread Labitt, Bruce
Bill, I was running as a user. NOT root. #cat /etc/fstab /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00/ ext3defaults 1 1 LABEL=/boot /boot ext3 defaults1 2 tempfs /dev/shmtmpfs defaults

Re: System Recovery

2008-07-15 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 13:42 -0400, Ben Scott wrote: > On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 11:05 -0400, Labitt, Bruce wrote: > >> Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while > >> trying to open /var. > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Jarod Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You need

Re: System Recovery

2008-07-15 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Jul 15, 2008, at 11:01, John Abreau wrote: > It sounds like the filesystem is thoroughly hosed. Based on the > symptoms > you describe, my first guess would be that you mistakenly pointed > K3b at > your hard drive instead of the DVD drive. Bruce, were you running k3b as root? We can sav

Re: System Recovery

2008-07-15 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Michael ODonnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... unless you want to do (or more likely, pay for) some > nasty by-hand salvage... :-/ That actually raises a good point: If this filesystem had valuable unique data on it, and you don't have backups, then you shou

Re: System Recovery

2008-07-15 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 12:28 PM, John Abreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Perhaps. Or maybe k3b only started scribbling on the /var partition, then > the machine rebooted when something critical in /var was stomped on. Or maybe k3b thought /dev/sda3 (or whatever) was the block device to write t

Re: System Recovery

2008-07-15 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 11:05 -0400, Labitt, Bruce wrote: >> Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while >> trying to open /var. On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Jarod Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You need to give it a block device, not a file system path. i.e., you >

Re: System Recovery

2008-07-15 Thread John Abreau
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, Michael ODonnell wrote: > > >> my first guess would be that you mistakenly pointed K3b at your >> hard drive instead of the DVD drive. > > I'd think the damage would be much worse if that were the case, > so my guess is that some b0rken kernel code (or maybe a HW > problem) co

Re: System Recovery

2008-07-15 Thread Michael ODonnell
> I would definitely recommned booting from external media (DVD) > and checking *all* the filesystems. There may be undetected > corruption elsewhere on your disk. And you can't check the root > filesystem of the running system. Good advice. Note that you can sometimes manage to fsck even the

Re: System Recovery

2008-07-15 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Labitt, Bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks Jarod. Hmm, I only have a 5.1 DVD right now. Will that work? It should. The on-disk filesystem format is the same. I would definitely recommned booting from external media (DVD) and checking *all* the files

RE: System Recovery

2008-07-15 Thread Jarod Wilson
You need to give it a block device, not a file system path. i.e., you need to pass /dev/foo to fsck, not /var. On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 11:05 -0400, Labitt, Bruce wrote: > I have been able to log into root in cli mode. > > I tried fsck -cvfn /var and got > > Attempt to read block from filesystem r

Re: System Recovery

2008-07-15 Thread Michael ODonnell
> my first guess would be that you mistakenly pointed K3b at your > hard drive instead of the DVD drive. I'd think the damage would be much worse if that were the case, so my guess is that some b0rken kernel code (or maybe a HW problem) corrupted some memory that happened to correspond to metada

RE: System Recovery

2008-07-15 Thread Labitt, Bruce
It sure looks like k3b was involved. However, k3b only gave me the addresses for the two optical drives I have. ?? -Original Message- From: John Abreau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 11:01 AM To: Labitt, Bruce Cc: gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org Subject: Re: Syste

RE: System Recovery

2008-07-15 Thread Jarod Wilson
Yep, fsck would be the place to start. Look in /mnt/sysimage/etc/fstab to see what physical device /var is and fsck that bad boy. I'd start with just a simple 'fsck /dev/sdaX' and go from there. On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 11:12 -0400, Labitt, Bruce wrote: > Thanks Jarod. Hmm, I only have a 5.1 DVD ri

Re: System Recovery

2008-07-15 Thread John Abreau
On Tue, July 15, 2008 10:18 am, Labitt, Bruce said: > What tools are available for recovery of a linux system? I have no idea > what happened - but my system took a dump. SciLinux5.2 (RHEL5.2). I > make it through the text mode then go into the x detail mode. I get a > lot of daemons failing a

RE: System Recovery

2008-07-15 Thread Labitt, Bruce
Thanks Jarod. Hmm, I only have a 5.1 DVD right now. Will that work? Or do I have to create a 5.2 dvd on another machine? As for repairs they would be fsck? Thanks, Bruce -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jarod Wilson Sent: Tuesday, July 1

RE: System Recovery

2008-07-15 Thread Labitt, Bruce
I have been able to log into root in cli mode. I tried fsck -cvfn /var and got Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /var. What does that mean? more importantly, what is the recommended course of action? -Bruce -Original Message- From: [EMAI

RE: System Recovery

2008-07-15 Thread Labitt, Bruce
Thanks. It appears that I cannot descend into /var, but I can go into other root directories. What would be the recommended fsck options? #fsck -CV /var -n ? -Bruce From: Mark Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10

Re: System Recovery

2008-07-15 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 10:34 -0400, Mark Greene wrote: > I'd start by booting it off of the system CD, run fsck on /var and see > how much of it is still intact. Then check the system logs for hard > drive and PCI errors. i.e., insert Scientific Linux 5.2, CD1 (or DVD), and boot it like so: boo

Re: System Recovery

2008-07-15 Thread Mark Greene
I'd start by booting it off of the system CD, run fsck on /var and see how much of it is still intact. Then check the system logs for hard drive and PCI errors. Good luck with it. mark On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Labitt, Bruce < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What tools are available for re

System Recovery

2008-07-15 Thread Labitt, Bruce
What tools are available for recovery of a linux system? I have no idea what happened - but my system took a dump. SciLinux5.2 (RHEL5.2). I make it through the text mode then go into the x detail mode. I get a lot of daemons failing and the odd lines that say stuff like: touch cannot touch /va

Re: upgrade attempt

2008-07-15 Thread James R. Van Zandt
"Ben Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > kernel /vmlinuz-1.6.20-1.2944.fc6 ro root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 rhgb > quiet irqpoll > > You've got a typo in the above. "1.6.20" should be "2.6.20". If > that's your actual kernel command (and not merely a transcription > error), that'