Re: 64-bit RPM/APT based systems - Worth it?

2005-10-31 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Monday 31 October 2005 12:05 pm, John Abreau wrote: > I assume Ben meant they won't be designing *new* 32-bit chips. Of course > they'll still be manufacturing the existing chips for as long as they > are contractually obligated to. The Intel roadmap is somewhat difficult to read, but they will

Re: 64-bit RPM/APT based systems - Worth it?

2005-10-31 Thread John Abreau
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Top reply as I am using the web mail right now... I sincereley doubt that Intel and AMD will be dropping 32-bit chips > after next year... In my industry, embedded systems design, Intel > has already committed a number of their current 32-bit chips as being > availabl

Re: 64-bit RPM/APT based systems - Worth it?

2005-10-31 Thread fj1200
Top reply as I am using the web mail right now... I sincereley doubt that Intel and AMD will be dropping 32-bit chips after next year... In my industry, embedded systems design, Intel has already committed a number of their current 32-bit chips as being available for at least the next five yea

Re: 64-bit RPM/APT based systems - Worth it?

2005-10-31 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Sunday 30 October 2005 4:57 pm, Ben Scott wrote: > From what I've read, I'm not sure how accurate that is. AMD64 (and > Intel's clone of it, EM64T) enable CPU modes which support a native > address space larger then 32 bits. Not the "32 bit window into a > larger space" that Intel PAE provi

Re: 64-bit RPM/APT based systems - Worth it?

2005-10-30 Thread Ben Scott
On 10/30/05, Bill McGonigle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Someone will correct me if I'm mistaken, but as I understand it x86-64 > is an instruction set addition to IA32. So it's not a 64-bit chip like > an Alpha, it's a 64-bit chip like a PowerPC. A fundamentally 32-bit > chip with provisions for

Re: 64-bit RPM/APT based systems - Worth it?

2005-10-30 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 09:27:13 -0500 Bill McGonigle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Oct 29, 2005, at 20:24, Brian Chabot wrote: > > > How backward-compatible are they with 32-bit apps? I know there would > > be a certain lossin performance, but for instance, would a commercial > > version of UT200

Re: 64-bit RPM/APT based systems - Worth it?

2005-10-30 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Oct 29, 2005, at 20:24, Brian Chabot wrote: How backward-compatible are they with 32-bit apps? I know there would be a certain lossin performance, but for instance, would a commercial version of UT2004 for Linux be able to run on a 64-bit system? Someone will correct me if I'm mistaken, bu

Re: 64-bit RPM/APT based systems - Worth it?

2005-10-30 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 20:24:01 -0400 Brian Chabot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Has anyone used a 64-bit, Intel/AMD system with a package based Linux > distro? I think your questions have been answered, but I would like to know if anyone has actually measured performance. There is a contingent who l

RE: 64-bit RPM/APT based systems - Worth it?

2005-10-29 Thread Richard A Sharpe
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Re: 64-bit RPM/APT based systems - Worth it?

2005-10-29 Thread Randy Edwards
I've been doing a good bit of research into AMD 64 as I'm getting close to building a Myth-TV system. I'll use Debian's AMD64 arch; right now it's still not officially released, but it's been around since before the last release of Debian and will officially be "stable" with the next release

64-bit RPM/APT based systems - Worth it?

2005-10-29 Thread Brian Chabot
I haven't seen this discussed before, so I figured I would ask. I've been thinking about putting together a small-form-factor system and it looks like all the better hardware I see is going 64-bit. Has anyone used a 64-bit, Intel/AMD system with a package based Linux distro? Are there RPMs or o