Re: Can only the 100Mbs part of a 10/100Mbs router fail?

2005-01-24 Thread Larry Cook
Larry Cook wrote: Does anyone have a spare DSL modem they'd be willing to lend me for a few weeks that might work with GSInet's DSL service? I had two offers of loaners. One had been used with GSInet, so I've borrowed that one and it appears to work. Thanks, Larry __

Re: Can only the 100Mbs part of a 10/100Mbs router fail?

2005-01-21 Thread Travis Roy
Perhaps I'm confused, but the "internet connection" that I get as part of my DSL is a phone-line size wire, not something that I can talk over. Since he mentioned that he needs a DSL *modem*/router, I'm assuming that the modem part is important here: without that, you don't have an "internet co

Re: Can only the 100Mbs part of a 10/100Mbs router fail?

2005-01-21 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 08:28:51AM -0500, Travis Roy wrote: > Some people may scream in horror about this but.. > > Why not just hook your computer directly to your internet connection and > bypass the broadband router for a few weeks. Perhaps I'm confused, but the "internet connection" that I g

Re: Can only the 100Mbs part of a 10/100Mbs router fail?

2005-01-21 Thread Larry Cook
Travis, Why not just hook your computer directly to your internet connection and bypass the broadband router for a few weeks. My router is a combo DSL-modem/router unit, I don't have a seperate DSL modem. But good thought. I think I hear some screams of horror as I type this. :-) Larry ___

Re: Can only the 100Mbs part of a 10/100Mbs router fail?

2005-01-21 Thread Travis Roy
Some people may scream in horror about this but.. Why not just hook your computer directly to your internet connection and bypass the broadband router for a few weeks. Bill, No open access points in your neighborhood? ;) Hah! This is Dunbarton, no cable and we only recently got indoor plumbing

Re: Can only the 100Mbs part of a 10/100Mbs router fail?

2005-01-21 Thread Larry Cook
Bill, No open access points in your neighborhood? ;) Hah! This is Dunbarton, no cable and we only recently got indoor plumbing. :-) Oh, but maybe you mean a neighbor with an open access point. Well, I guess I would first need a wireless card (I wired my house because I got everything but the w

Re: Can only the 100Mbs part of a 10/100Mbs router fail?

2005-01-20 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Jan 20, 2005, at 17:50, Larry Cook wrote: Only problem is that I don't know if I can go back to living with dial-up for the week or two it could take. No open access points in your neighborhood? ;) -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Ho

Re: Can only the 100Mbs part of a 10/100Mbs router fail?

2005-01-20 Thread Neil Joseph Schelly
I have a spare DSL modem I used with Verizon ADSL in Worcester - it's a Westell Speedstream something. You're welcome to try it anyway - I haven't used it for years since I told Verizon to leave me alone forever. Call me at 509-410-4776 if you're interested and we can arrange something. -N On

Re: Can only the 100Mbs part of a 10/100Mbs router fail?

2005-01-20 Thread Larry Cook
Benjamin Scott wrote: I realize this thread is old, but I'm catching up and I might be able to offer some insight here... Ben, thanks for your detailed explaination. Yes, I do mean repeater. And I finally got through to a live person and got an RMA number to return my DSL-Modem/Router. Only pr

Re: Can only the 100Mbs part of a 10/100Mbs router fail?

2004-12-22 Thread Travis Roy
Just catching up on your email now :) Most people have forgotten about the threads you're replying to tonight :) I realize this thread is old, but I'm catching up and I might be able to offer some insight here... On Wed, 8 Dec 2004, at 8:32am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most consumer level 10/100

Re: Can only the 100Mbs part of a 10/100Mbs router fail?

2004-12-21 Thread Benjamin Scott
I realize this thread is old, but I'm catching up and I might be able to offer some insight here... On Wed, 8 Dec 2004, at 8:32am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Most consumer level 10/100 "switches" or "routers" are switching hubs. > That is there's a 100mb hub and a 10mb hub and the switching h

Re: autonegotiation (was: Can only the 100Mbs part of a 10/100Mbs router fail?)

2004-12-08 Thread Bill McGonigle
Once upon a time autonegotiation wasn't standardized. Then it was. But we still have non-standard gear in service here and there so it still bites people once in a while and it gets a bad rap. 3COM gear has been the biggest thorn in my side from this problem - they put out 10/100 managed swit

Re: Can only the 100Mbs part of a 10/100Mbs router fail?

2004-12-08 Thread kend
> > "Ken D'Ambrosio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> is the fact that autonegotiation is an imperfect science. > > In what way are the autonegotiation specs. deficient? Just curious. While I've never read the RFC, to the best of my knowledge, there's no problem with the specs, themselves. Once

Re: Can only the 100Mbs part of a 10/100Mbs router fail?

2004-12-08 Thread Drew Van Zandt
The rapid flashing of the port the 100Mbit link is connected to is quite possibly the port (in 10 Mbit mode) interpreting 100 Mbit link pulses as data, which is not an uncommon occurrence. Use the excuse to get yourself a WRT54G. ;-) (Yes, it runs Linux.) --Drew On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 11:36:46 -

Re: Can only the 100Mbs part of a 10/100Mbs router fail?

2004-12-08 Thread Larry Cook
Thanks for all the responses. It seems like the router is having a 100Mbs problem, since a few of you have also experienced that kind of problem. Although I do have some suggestions to follow up on just to make sure. I guess I'll just move my 10Mbs hub directly in front of the router and put e

Re: Can only the 100Mbs part of a 10/100Mbs router fail?

2004-12-08 Thread Larry Cook
Dan, Thanks for your repsonse. In one case it was a bad patch cable. The cable worked at 10Mbps but not 100Mbps. I didn't try to determine why. Just replaced it. I've tried three different cables directly connecting computer #2 and the router. No difference. In some cheap 10/100 switches, the en

Re: Can only the 100Mbs part of a 10/100Mbs router fail?

2004-12-08 Thread Larry Cook
Ken, One thing to contemplate -- though if it had been working before, it's not terribly likely to be the problem -- is the fact that autonegotiation is an imperfect science. This router has been working for a year and half with computer #1 (10Mbs) and #2 (100Mbs) connected to it. The 100Mbs sw

Re: Can only the 100Mbs part of a 10/100Mbs router fail?

2004-12-08 Thread Larry Cook
Brian, Thanks for your response. Every 10/100 device I've seen in the last 10 years has used 1 chip to handle the 10/100 PHY. This means that it would be (IMO) HIGHLY unlikely that only the 100Mbs portion could/would fail, I would expect all or nothing. One thing I did notice is that when a 100Mbs

Re: Can only the 100Mbs part of a 10/100Mbs router fail?

2004-12-08 Thread Larry Cook
Travis, Thanks for your response. It could be a duplex mismatch but I doubt it. I have had this happen to myself personally, where the 100mb part didn't work and the 10mb part did. Okay, so it is a possibility. I assume by router you mean broadband router, not a "real" router. Yes, it is an Action

Re: Can only the 100Mbs part of a 10/100Mbs router fail?

2004-12-08 Thread Drew Van Zandt
If the crystal on the router that feeds the 10/100 PHYs drifts out of spec, 100 would stop working, 10 would probably be more forgiving. Is this likely? No, but it is possible. Just my $0.01999 --DTVZ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROT

Re: Can only the 100Mbs part of a 10/100Mbs router fail?

2004-12-08 Thread Kevin D. Clark
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > problem with the specs, themselves. Once again, it's a case of "the Devil is > in the details." I think it's the implementation -- especially cross-vendor > issues -- that's the biggie. FYI: autonegotiation is specified by IEEE specs, not RFCs. It is also my per

Re: Can only the 100Mbs part of a 10/100Mbs router fail?

2004-12-08 Thread Kevin D. Clark
"Ken D'Ambrosio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > is the fact that autonegotiation is an imperfect science. In what way are the autonegotiation specs. deficient? Just curious. Thanks, --kevin -- GnuPG ID: B280F24E And the madness of the crowd

Re: Can only the 100Mbs part of a 10/100Mbs router fail?

2004-12-08 Thread Dan Jenkins
I'm having a network problem that appears to be that the 10/100Mbs ports on my router are no longer working at 100Mbs, but are working at 10Mbs. Is it possible that just the 100Mbs part could fail? I've seen this problem a few times. In one case it was a bad patch cable. The cable worked at 10Mbps

Re: Can only the 100Mbs part of a 10/100Mbs router fail?

2004-12-08 Thread Ken D'Ambrosio
Hey, Larry! One thing to contemplate -- though if it had been working before, it's not terribly likely to be the problem -- is the fact that autonegotiation is an imperfect science. As an example, at Cisco, we always had to peg our server connections at 100MBit on the not-so off chance that t

RE: Can only the 100Mbs part of a 10/100Mbs router fail?

2004-12-08 Thread Brian
What are you usng for a router? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Cook Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 8:19 AM To: GNHLUG Subject: Can only the 100Mbs part of a 10/100Mbs router fail? I'm having a network problem that appears to

Re: Can only the 100Mbs part of a 10/100Mbs router fail?

2004-12-08 Thread Travis Roy
It could be a duplex mismatch but I doubt it. I have had this happen to myself personally, where the 100mb part didn't work and the 10mb part did. I assume by router you mean broadband router, not a "real" router. Most consumer level 10/100 "switches" or "routers" are switching hubs. That is the

Can only the 100Mbs part of a 10/100Mbs router fail?

2004-12-08 Thread Larry Cook
I'm having a network problem that appears to be that the 10/100Mbs ports on my router are no longer working at 100Mbs, but are working at 10Mbs. Is it possible that just the 100Mbs part could fail? Here's my scenario if anyone is interested. Connected to the router are the following: Computer