Libranet - Free Trial - was: Re: Future (RPM based) linuxen: RHEL, FC, WBEL, Mandrake, SuSE?

2004-04-06 Thread Bill Sconce
Support! One thing I forgot to mention this time around about Libranet: the support. Libranet is a personal, down-home operation, very much a community, and the Libranet engineers themselves are available to jump in and help when a problem arises which the community can't help with. A case in

Re: Libranet - Free Trial - was: Re: Future (RPM based) linuxen: RHEL, FC, WBEL, Mandrake, SuSE?

2004-04-06 Thread Bill Sconce
On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 11:13:56 -0400 Ed Lawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 10:13:18 -0400 Bill Sconce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Send me an e-mail if you'd like to try out Libranet. When the kit arrives I'll bring it to a meeting and/or deliver it to you if that's

Re: Future (RPM based) linuxen: RHEL, FC, WBEL, Mandrake, SuSE?

2004-04-05 Thread Bill Sconce
On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 04:18:27 -0500 Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 11:40, Jeff Macdonald wrote: [snip] So that's my rather biased take on it all. Take it with a grain of salt, and with the disclosure that I am a known rpm bigot and still somewhat of a Red

Re: Future (RPM based) linuxen: RHEL, FC, WBEL, Mandrake, SuSE?

2004-04-05 Thread Travis Roy
Buying Libranet gets you real Free Software, not the Creeping Proprietary which has made RH, and others, increasingly unworkable. Your interest may vary, but Creeping Proprietary seems to have been an underlying thread here. CP was the primary reason I decided to dump RH. (I discovered afterward

Re: Future (RPM based) linuxen: RHEL, FC, WBEL, Mandrake, SuSE?

2004-04-05 Thread Paul Iadonisi
On Mon, 2004-04-05 at 13:36, Bill Sconce wrote: If anyone can stand another flip comment, we have often accused Microsoft customers of being used to their shackles, of being trapped by their biases. Absolutely. Except that with Windows, you can NEVER have the equivalent of something like

Re: Future (RPM based) linuxen: RHEL, FC, WBEL, Mandrake, SuSE?

2004-04-05 Thread Travis Roy
The OP was what to do as RH keeps changing. Libranet isn't the answer for everyone, but it isn't sufficiently well known that there are alternaives to RPM. RPMBIGOT MODE=ON This is my only real beef here. It's perpetuated myth about rpm. Rpm is not, I repeat not responsible for the

Re: Future (RPM based) linuxen: RHEL, FC, WBEL, Mandrake, SuSE?

2004-04-05 Thread Michael ODonnell
I'm partial to Debian but I'm obliged to work with RHAT boxes so I sat with a cow-orker as he tried apt on his RHAT box a few days ago and it appears that (at least during the simple test-drive we gave) it worked as reliably as I've ever seen it on a Debian box. This shouldn't have amazed me,

Re: Future (RPM based) linuxen: RHEL, FC, WBEL, Mandrake, SuSE?

2004-04-05 Thread Tom Buskey
I'm partial to Debian but I'm obliged to work with RHAT boxes so I sat with a cow-orker as he tried apt on his RHAT box a few days ago and it appears that (at least during the simple test-drive we gave) it worked as reliably as I've ever seen it on a Debian box. This shouldn't have amazed

Future (RPM based) linuxen: RHEL, FC, WBEL, Mandrake, SuSE?

2004-04-03 Thread Tom Buskey
On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 11:40, Jeff Macdonald wrote: [snip] http://www.whiteboxlinux.org/ excellent points deleted So that's my rather biased take on it all. Take it with a grain of salt, and with the disclosure that I am a known rpm bigot and still somewhat of a Red Hat bigot (though not