Re: New Hampshire legislation to consider Open Source (adding a cross post to dlslug)

2006-01-25 Thread Jim Kuzdrall
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 03:23 pm, Fred wrote: > On Tuesday 10 January 2006 10:39, Richard Soule wrote: > ... > > > Some things that can help: Be a HUB (Historically Underutilized > > Business, usually women or minority owned with bonus points for > > being both), > > I might have thought this

Re: New Hampshire legislation to consider Open Source (adding a cross post to dlslug)

2006-01-25 Thread Dan Jenkins
Fred said: > On Tuesday 10 January 2006 10:39, Richard Soule wrote: > ... >> Some things that can help: Be a HUB (Historically Underutilized >> Business, usually women or minority owned with bonus points for being >> both), > > I might have thought this would come up due to this being the governmen

Re: New Hampshire legislation to consider Open Source (adding a cross post to dlslug)

2006-01-25 Thread Ben Scott
On 1/25/06, Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Personally, I consider it condescending to land a contract on the basis of > being a "minority" or "woman". Personally, I hate Lima beans. -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.

Re: New Hampshire legislation to consider Open Source (adding a cross post to dlslug)

2006-01-25 Thread Fred
On Tuesday 10 January 2006 10:39, Richard Soule wrote: ... > Some things that can help: Be a HUB (Historically Underutilized > Business, usually women or minority owned with bonus points for being > both), I might have thought this would come up due to this being the government we're dealing wit

Re: New Hampshire legislation to consider Open Source (adding a cross post to dlslug)

2006-01-10 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Jan 10, 2006, at 10:25, Jon maddog Hall wrote: Considering the bill going forward, perhaps the issue of "open source solutions aren't usually considered" is old news. Yes, I'm aware of the thread topic. Note the use of past tense in my statements - I'm suggesting the RFP process may hav

Re: New Hampshire legislation to consider Open Source (adding a cross post to dlslug)

2006-01-10 Thread Richard Soule
Getting on the list can be difficult. Most states have a 'Statewide Contract' which means negotiating with the state purchasing folks. They often demand special concessions (you can never charge us more than you charge any other customer), access to internal sales information (so they know that

Re: New Hampshire legislation to consider Open Source (adding a cross post to dlslug)

2006-01-10 Thread Jon maddog Hall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > This may be a catch-22. I've considered applying for the approved vendors > list (there's a real name for that) but was told open source solutions > aren't usually considered so I didn't. Bill, Considering the bill going forward, perhaps the issue of "open source s

Re: New Hampshire legislation to consider Open Source (adding a cross post to dlslug)

2006-01-10 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Jan 10, 2006, at 08:48, Python wrote: However, I suspect another issue is the RFP process commonly used for government purchases. Many open source projects have no sales or marketing arm to deal with an RFP. Does anyone know if that really is an obstacle to getting open source to be cons

Re: New Hampshire legislation to consider Open Source (adding a cross post to dlslug)

2006-01-10 Thread Bruce Dawson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I sent a note to Roy Maxfield, my rep and a sponsoring committee-member, but I haven't heard anything back. - --Bruce Python wrote: |On Mon, 2006-01-09 at 14:35 -0500, Ed Lawson wrote: | |>On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 13:53:30 -0500 |>Ted Roche <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: New Hampshire legislation to consider Open Source (adding a cross post to dlslug)

2006-01-10 Thread Jon maddog Hall
While Open Source projects do not have a sales and marketing arm to deal with RFPs, corporations like Red Hat, Novell, IBM, HP, Dell, Sun and others do. To a lesser extent, VARs, Distributors and Resellers also do answers to RFPs. md -- Jon "maddog" Hall Executive Director Linux Interna

Re: New Hampshire legislation to consider Open Source (adding a cross post to dlslug)

2006-01-10 Thread Python
On Mon, 2006-01-09 at 14:35 -0500, Ed Lawson wrote: > On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 13:53:30 -0500 > Ted Roche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > "New Potential Legislation > > An Act establishing a committee to study requiring NH state > > government to consider using open source software when > ac