Re: Suqashing Facebook (WAS: Conducting GNHLUG business on Facebook (was Stop! Unix Time))

2009-02-03 Thread Arc Riley
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Thomas Charron wrote: > > Your example is slightly counter to your argument. The thought put > forth is that everyone can run a server of their own, with their own > web sites, etc. So I'd be thomaschar...@kilomonkies.com. And how is > gnhlug.org going to know

Re: Suqashing Facebook (WAS: Conducting GNHLUG business on Facebook (was Stop! Unix Time))

2009-02-03 Thread Thomas Charron
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 4:41 AM, Bill McGonigle wrote: > On 02/02/2009 12:35 AM, virgins...@vfemail.net wrote: >> Instead of >> hosting a Web site in order to host a Web site, people are putting >> "pages" on third-party services like Facebook. > Most people don't want websites, actually. They wa

Re: Suqashing Facebook (WAS: Conducting GNHLUG business on Facebook (was Stop! Unix Time))

2009-02-03 Thread Thomas Charron
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 1:56 AM, Arc Riley wrote: > The beauty in this is you don't even need a XMPP client running on your > machine to access this data. If you have a client that understands the > required extensions in a way that makes it useful to you, you can use your > own client, or you can

Re: Suqashing Facebook (WAS: Conducting GNHLUG business on Facebook (was Stop! Unix Time))

2009-02-03 Thread Bill McGonigle
On 02/02/2009 12:35 AM, virgins...@vfemail.net wrote: > Instead of > hosting a Web site in order to host a Web site, people are putting > "pages" on third-party services like Facebook. Most people don't want websites, actually. They want to share photos and prose with their friends. Fewer stil

Re: Suqashing Facebook (WAS: Conducting GNHLUG business on Facebook (was Stop! Unix Time))

2009-02-02 Thread Arc Riley
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Thomas Charron wrote: What's at issue is that the meaning of data is still left as an > interpretation to the student. Yes, you can shove arbitrary data and > publish that data. That data still needs to be adopted as a standard > by everyone. As an example, co

Re: Suqashing Facebook (WAS: Conducting GNHLUG business on Facebook (was Stop! Unix Time))

2009-02-02 Thread Thomas Charron
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 12:35 AM, wrote: > The whole facebook/meetup/myspace/ > mess seems to be the product of a number of factors: > (1) People want web presence with prefabricated features like > calendaring, blogging, guestbooks, voting, and messaging. > (2) People want to network their

Re: Suqashing Facebook (WAS: Conducting GNHLUG business on Facebook (was Stop! Unix Time))

2009-02-02 Thread Thomas Charron
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 2:37 AM, Arc Riley wrote: > That's hilarious! But jokes about PHP scripts and internet appliances > aside, there *is* a real solution to this that's already accepted by the > community at large. > It's called XMPP - eXtensible Messaging and Presence Protocol. > Thanks to Go

Re: Suqashing Facebook (WAS: Conducting GNHLUG business on Facebook (was Stop! Unix Time))

2009-02-02 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
>(1) With a suite of PHP scripts that could be installed on any > hosting service that supports PHP (not hard to find). >(2) By installing a special package on a Linksys router. >(3) Developing an embedded Linux Internet appliance to host from a > user's home/office connection. (Wh

Re: Suqashing Facebook (WAS: Conducting GNHLUG business on Facebook (was Stop! Unix Time))

2009-02-01 Thread Arc Riley
That's hilarious! But jokes about PHP scripts and internet appliances aside, there *is* a real solution to this that's already accepted by the community at large. It's called XMPP - eXtensible Messaging and Presence Protocol. Thanks to Google and Livejournal there's already a huge userbase. It'

Suqashing Facebook (WAS: Conducting GNHLUG business on Facebook (was Stop! Unix Time))

2009-02-01 Thread VirginSnow
> Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 21:46:31 -0500 > From: Arc Riley > I'm tired of hearing people in the free software community whine about > Facebook. There are a lot of programmers on this list. If you feel > passionately enough about this to complain then let's build an alternative. I haven't been wh