Re: Gnome 3 is not ready for netbooks

2011-07-17 Thread Allan E. Registos
On 7/15/2011 4:41 PM, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: I am painfully aware of the shortcomings of Gnome applications with regards to netbooks and their abysmal resolutions. this, though, has nothing to do with the shell; the shell cannot modify the applications. this mailing list[0] is the development m

Re: Gnome 3 is not ready for netbooks

2011-07-17 Thread Allan E. Registos
On 7/15/2011 4:41 PM, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: this mailing list[0] is the development mailing list of gnome-shell. it's not the list for Gnome 3, nor it's the mailing list for the control center, evolution, nautilus or whatever other part of Gnome. Ah ic, this is a development ML for the shell, u

Re: Gnome 3 is not ready for netbooks

2011-07-14 Thread Allan E. Registos
I really do not think you should expect all users to just file bugs. I remember I have a problem with this in Evolution email with a 1366x768 monitor, in order to see the close button, I need to hide the bottom panel. On 7/15/2011 6:26 AM, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: what I personally don't unders

Re: GNOME and ANDROID

2011-07-13 Thread Allan E. Registos
On 7/13/2011 11:05 PM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: I didn't say that it is stripped-down! nor i want to offend anyone, i > know that GNOME project requires Seems implied by being cast as logically not "fully functional" [your words]. It seems he clarified it(from his response) it is from his PO

Re: GNOME and ANDROID

2011-07-13 Thread Allan E. Registos
On 7/13/2011 10:49 PM, Daniele Guerrieri wrote: Um. I'm not sure how you're getting there from here. How does Android - > 2.3 or 3.0 - resemble GNOME 3? The major feature of GNOME 3 is the > Overview; Android does not have anything like this. It has an app > browser, but this has no concept of

GNOME 2.32 is still alive through Fedora's BlueBubble

2011-06-20 Thread Allan E. Registos
Original Message Subject:Re: My opinions on Gnome Shell Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 17:12:31 +0100 (BST) From: Dimitris M. Reply-To: Dimitris M. To: gnome-shell-list@gnome.org , awill...@whitemice.org That would leave the "activities" only with one view, th

Re: Having multiple admins

2011-05-31 Thread Allan E. Registos
On 5/30/2011 9:07 PM, G. Michael Carter wrote: I have three people I want to make admins. I've used the user area to make them admins and added them to the wheel group. But when I get the authorization from this step: [mcarter@liandra ~]$ epiphany bash: epiphany: command not found... Install

Re: gnome-shell-list Digest, Vol 31, Issue 122

2011-05-28 Thread Allan E. Registos
On 5/28/2011 7:36 AM, Brian Baker wrote: I must admit I am fed up with reading about power off suspend etc. The thing with Linux is choice, there is always choice! just as some enterprising person created an extension that allows the possibility to shutdown the computer! If you choose use it! G

Re: The good, the bad, the insane

2011-05-28 Thread Allan E. Registos
On 5/28/2011 12:12 AM, Owen Taylor wrote: On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 08:53 -0700, Diego Fernandez wrote: Well then couldn't there just be a 'Power Off' and 'Suspend' option in the menu then? That doesn't seem too confusing... Suspend = "I'll be back in a bit and want to get back to what I was doing

Re: The good, the bad, the insane

2011-05-27 Thread Allan E. Registos
On 5/26/2011 5:51 PM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: (e) there is an extension available [in at least the openSUSE GNOME3 STABLE repo] that adds Suspend& Power Off as discreet items on the menu. @Adam: Perhaps one of your audience is not system admins/power users(users of tweak* & extensions). De

Re: GNOME3 & 3D Compatibility [Was: Applications Compatibility]

2011-05-26 Thread Allan E. Registos
On 5/25/2011 5:57 PM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: Allen, you would have noticed i gave examples as to where > gnome-shell/mutter was anything BUT robust. One trip to youtube and > watching gnome-shell reviews will show you that it isn't as robust as > you think. I've watched you-tube videos an

Re: Gnome Shell 2D?

2011-05-26 Thread Allan E. Registos
On 5/25/2011 2:59 PM, Olav Vitters wrote: On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 02:46:03PM +0800, Shu Hung (Koala) wrote: Just a quick curious question: will there be a 2D fallback for Gnome Shell? There is work going on for software accelerated 3D (good enough for GNOME shell). Hopefully that'll be ready by

Re: The good, the bad, the insane

2011-05-23 Thread Allan E. Registos(x-mail)
On Monday, 23 May, 2011 10:13 PM, Ryan Peters wrote: Before I say anything, let me state that I am not a developer or designer of this project. From what I've read *from* the designers, though, the decision was made for consistency's sake, not necessarily saving energy. The menu has the same fu

Re: Already looking for alternatives!

2011-05-23 Thread Allan E. Registos(x-mail)
On Monday, 23 May, 2011 02:45 PM, Olav Vitters wrote: On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:13:19AM +0800, Allan E. Registos(x-mail) wrote: On Monday, 23 May, 2011 09:41 AM, Bill Dwyer wrote: Nic to know the Dev team doesn't care about what the users think. Not true. A recipe for disaster fo

Re: Applications Compatibility

2011-05-22 Thread Allan E. Registos(x-mail)
On Monday, 23 May, 2011 12:30 PM, jordan wrote: hi Allen, This is one I think is a valid concern, I will also be using Multimedia apps for recording and it looks like GNOME Shell is not the right _desktop_ _shell_ at this rate. I remember one poster here who complains, but with no solution for

Re: Already looking for alternatives!

2011-05-22 Thread Allan E. Registos(x-mail)
On Monday, 23 May, 2011 09:41 AM, Bill Dwyer wrote: Nic to know the Dev team doesn't care about what the users think. A recipe for disaster for any project for sure. Many of you will think why some people like me was still reading this list, I just want to know or get informed on user feedbacks

Re: Applications Compatibility

2011-05-22 Thread Allan E. Registos(x-mail)
On Monday, 23 May, 2011 01:32 AM, jordan wrote: > Will you please stop this? I'm sorry, but you are refusing to give any good > examples whatsoever of how it's harder to use the interface and this thread > is going in circles because of it (which you blame on me, which isn't the > case at all

Re: Hotkeys vs. Mouse

2011-05-22 Thread Allan E. Registos(x-mail)
On Sunday, 22 May, 2011 11:25 AM, Ryan Peters wrote: That is to say, they are forced them to re-learn and cannot see the benefit. Moreover when one of them persists, there is always a convenient answer that involves relearning with a small dose of "who cares that it's a bit harder to do x". Wi

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-18 Thread Allan E. Registos(x-mail)
On Thursday, 19 May, 2011 11:02 AM, Ryan Peters wrote: If we really we do need stuff like this rather than the default, some must become an official release from GNOME Shell. Not third party for the sake of end users and stability of the DE. I never said extensions were needed; sorry if it cam

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-18 Thread Allan E. Registos(x-mail)
On Thursday, 19 May, 2011 03:54 AM, Gerald Henriksen wrote: Also, the critics saying that GNOME Shell is "one size fits all" must >have never looked at the extensions or third-party programs yet. There >are already places menus, drive menus, alternative status menus, docks, >launchers on the pane

Re: Blocked

2011-05-10 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 07:48 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > I think occasionally you snipe about how things are developed which I > guess bothers some people. It doesn't bother me and your actions are > certainly in line with the GNOME Code of Conduct so I don't see what > the griping is about.

Re: Blocked

2011-05-08 Thread Allan E. Registos
As you wish. I am now trying to answer constructively, just tell us plainly of what is wrong with our words as I am trying to get neutral on any issue at hand. Scaring us won't work. - Original Message - From: "Milan Bouchet-Valat" To: "Allan E. Registos&quo

Blocked

2011-05-06 Thread Allan E. Registos
Am I being blocked? I've been receiving this error: host sbcmx8.prodigy.net[207.115.36.22] said: 553 5.3.0 nlpi140 DNSBL:ATTRBL 521_is_blocked. please confirm... so I can stop responding to the list. Regards, Allan ___ gnome-shell-list mailing l

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 17:26 -0500, Jason D. Clinton wrote: > > This is a perfect example of why people should feel comfortable using > suspend-to-RAM on Linux. And that's why we made it the default if the > kernel tells us that your laptop hardware is known to suspend > successfully. For the reco

Re: Why Favorites are not on the top bar?

2011-05-06 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 19:01 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > > The dock for the favorites list is just as fast > > to reach (especially if you use the Windows/Super key) > > It definitely isn't as fast. Yes, it's not hard to reach, > but in Gnome 2 it was even *more easy*: one mouse movement > and

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 18:51 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > > I never said it was. If you want a "viable, long term choice" then > I'd > > HIGHLY suggest to stop upgrading your Fedora install > > How viable for me. How can I develop software for Fedora if I don't > upgrade my Fedora? Developing in

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:37 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > > In > > addition, your claim that GNOME "gives users no choice" is > incredibly > > false: you can enable Forced Fallback mode in System Settings to a > GNOME > > 2-like UI which is meant for setups that cannot run the new GNOME 3. > >

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-06 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 06:10 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > If someone is shocked by GNOME3 or claims they don't know the > reasoning for the changes - they did not take any time at all to go > look > [so not knowing is a rather inevitable condition]. So anyone coming > here [Hey, they found t

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-05 Thread Allan E. Registos
- Original Message - From: "Adam Tauno Williams" To: gnome-shell-list@gnome.org Sent: Friday, May 6, 2011 9:44:03 AM Subject: Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please. On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 08:01 +0800, Allan E. Registos wrote: > On Friday, 06 May, 2011 01:54 A

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-05 Thread Allan E. Registos
g Sent: Friday, May 6, 2011 9:44:03 AM Subject: Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please. On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 08:01 +0800, Allan E. Registos wrote: > On Friday, 06 May, 2011 01:54 AM, G. Michael Carter wrote: > That's the best thing to do and will certainly reduced people > co

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please. - Double post apology

2011-05-05 Thread Allan E. Registos
I used Thunderbird earlier, but I have double posts... My apologies. Regards, Allan - Original Message - From: "Allan E. Registos" To: gnome-shell-list@gnome.org Sent: Friday, May 6, 2011 8:06:45 AM Subject: Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please. On Friday, 06 May, 201

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-05 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Friday, 06 May, 2011 02:37 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: As someone mentioned earlier, there are extensions that can put a taskbar on your screen or you can use any number of third party apps like Docky or AWN that can give you similar features. My GNOME 3 setup still runs docky because ther

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-05 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Friday, 06 May, 2011 01:54 AM, G. Michael Carter wrote: I keep doing that... forgetting to hit reply-all, let's try again: Here's a thought. What about a dialog "welcome" box for the first users. (have a check box to go away forever) Then have links or info on how to use Gnome 3? Mayb

Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.

2011-05-05 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Thursday, 05 May, 2011 11:30 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: GNOME 3 is designed to be task oriented and distraction free. I hope this will not compromise the notification area. Regards, Allan ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome

Re: on suspend

2011-05-05 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Wednesday, 04 May, 2011 09:57 PM, Bidossessi SODONON wrote: I believe that in Vista as well, the "shutdown" button was relegated to a less accessible position in favour of Suspend. I agree that it makes more sense for laptop users than desktops, but suspend being the next best thing to the f

Re: on suspend

2011-05-05 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Wednesday, 04 May, 2011 09:53 PM, Olav Vitters wrote: If suspend does not work: 1. The hardware/kernel/whatever should not advertise it as such I've already outlined a way to detect such cases and override it 2. The bug*has* to be reported and get fixed Suspend is basically a repeat of:

Re: Instant Message notifications

2011-05-04 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Wednesday, 04 May, 2011 02:40 PM, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: This is indeed what we're trying to do... see the long thread that davidz started about "GOA" http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2011-April/msg00107.html Sounds good. "We'd probably also want it to work with "ge

Re: issues under Ubuntu

2011-05-03 Thread Allan E. Registos
I've got LMDE a rolling edition, but have no GNOME Shell at this moment. - Original Message - From: "Koppányi Tamás" To: awill...@whitemice.org Cc: gnome-shell-list@gnome.org Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2011 1:44:13 PM Subject: Re: issues under Ubuntu Running GNOME 3 on openSUSE

Re: Unity feature I'd like to see in Gnome-Shell

2011-05-03 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Wednesday, 04 May, 2011 12:44 PM, Robert Park wrote: On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Dokuro wrote: +1 for settings, more options will come in time! :) Hah! You must be new here. GNOME development has been trending towards fewer options, not more options, over the last many years. You mea

Re: issues under Ubuntu

2011-05-03 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Wednesday, 04 May, 2011 08:50 AM, Cyril Arnaud wrote: I have to agree. Using Gnome-Shell and Ubuntu is really a pain in the ... It is expected. Ubuntu officially does not yet support GNOME Shell AFAIK. Don't get me wrong, I loved all the Ubuntu

Re: on suspend

2011-05-03 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Wednesday, 04 May, 2011 07:05 AM, Jesse Hutton wrote: Why is Gnome Shell relying so heavily on something that is notoriously difficult to make work across a wide array of hardware configurations? The developers and designers must have their reasons, but I have the same question as you have. O

Re: Unity feature I'd like to see in Gnome-Shell

2011-05-03 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 5:30 AM, John Stowers wrote: > On Mon, 2011-05-02 at 14:04 -0400, G. Michael Carter wrote: >> I just downloaded unity/Ubuntu 11.04 and was playing with it. >> >> >> One feature I really like is the application menu is in the top bar. >> (ie: the File Edit View Go Boo

Re: Feedback

2011-05-02 Thread Allan E. Registos
>- Original Message - >From: "G. Michael Carter" >To: "Adam Williamson" >Cc: "gnome-shell-list" >Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2011 10:17:58 AM >Subject: Re: Feedback > > >If I'm powering off it's because I'm unplugging the computer. If I'm rebooting >it's to update to the new kernel. The, wh

Re: Feedback

2011-05-02 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Monday, 02 May, 2011 11:49 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: I guess they do not want to listen as I recall. Well, I wouldn't say that.. I'm sure there at least in Fedora that the distros will be trying to get suspend working. Suspend has to work. It needs to be exactly like the Mac. My

Re: on suspend

2011-05-02 Thread Allan E. Registos
The thing is circular, because it works for you and not for me and you are okay with that implementation. The second point is computers actually needs "turn off" visibility for end users, not just "Suspend" if the system is capable. It happens that you work in an environment where you do not nee

Re: Feedback

2011-05-01 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Saturday, 30 April, 2011 09:40 PM, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: == Suspend instead of Shutdown == Surely this has been discussed extensively, I just want to mention that suspend simply does not work for me (tested on two computers, both do not wake up correctly). I gues

Re: "Gubuntu" - Long term perspective for Ubuntu with Gnome?

2011-04-29 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Friday, 29 April, 2011 11:21 PM, Evandro Giovanini wrote: the original release already changed the default behavior for Nautilus and applied a not so good looking theme and background, for instance. Not to defend Ubuntu/Canonical at this point, but your point here is not helpful at all. Vis

Re: "Gubuntu" - Long term perspective for Ubuntu with Gnome?

2011-04-29 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Friday, 29 April, 2011 06:43 PM, Marc Fouquet wrote: I got used to Ubuntu, so I don't like to switch to another distro. But I tried Natty/Unity yesterday and didn't like it - at least in its current form. Installing Gnome 3 from an experimental PPA does not appear like a long-term solution e

Re: Thumbs up!

2011-04-29 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Friday, 29 April, 2011 06:10 PM, Gianluca Sforna wrote: AFAICT the Shell does not need a top notch 3D card and binary drivers. That is good to hear, but applications will need the maximum performance of GPUs, that is why, GNOME Shell will benefit from that, since I think proprietary drivers

Re: Thumbs up!

2011-04-28 Thread Allan E. Registos
All these animations stuff are under the assumption that Nvidia and AMD will going to support Linux in the ages to come, if they do, GNOME Shell is in good track. I have no faith in Open Source 3D capable drivers, if they do, they are light-years behind. I hope(again) the design of the Shell is

Re: solution for notifications

2011-04-24 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Monday, 25 April, 2011 01:36 PM, Koppányi Tamás wrote: that looks good, but still doesn't solve what i mean. this alt+tab or dash also requires a button to be pressed in order to be visible. in that case, it's just easier to press the activities button and see everything at once. my point wa

Re: How does gnome-shell handle urgent windows?

2011-04-24 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Wednesday, 20 April, 2011 05:40 PM, Milan Bouchet-Valat wrote: Today I was explaining the concept of Gnome-shell to a windows user, > and he asked me how it lets you know that a window is trying to > attract your attention because something happened with it. There is something that needs to

Re: My first impression of GNOME 3

2011-04-19 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Wednesday, 20 April, 2011 08:13 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: (The old Sony Ericsson phones, BTW, in my experience make a good argument for theming being a bad idea; I had one too, and of all the themes I tried on it, a good half would result in some kind of bug.) I am not a developer of this stu

Re: My first impression of GNOME 3

2011-04-19 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Wednesday, 20 April, 2011 06:02 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: Neither Windows nor OS X (nor any smartphone OS I'm aware of) provides an official UI and support for theming, and there's no great outcry that it should be available on those; it's the norm for the appearance of the desktop to be defi

Re:

2011-04-18 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Tuesday, 19 April, 2011 09:12 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: I think though if you want a platform to improve then you need to also invest some time in it. I would suggest that Jordan and others who are interested in audio and video in Linux and improving that stack for desktops that they sho

Re:

2011-04-18 Thread Allan E. Registos
Hi there jordan, I believe that early releases (including the stable GNOME 3.0) does not fit in your setup as per your screenshots. As I am thinking through the reading of this list that those who tested GNOME Shell were mostly developers of this kind where video and audio are not relevant in

Re: Inkscape

2011-04-17 Thread Allan E. Registos
>> :( I am thought earlier that Shell is stable even at early releases compared >> to KDE 4.0. Also I am disappointed we do not have equivalents of Illustrator >> or CorelDraw in Linux. In addition to your complain, lastly I tested >> Inkscape in GNOME Shell and it will add too many artifacts i

Re: using Gnome-Shell with 90% of all applications is absolute garbage.

2011-04-14 Thread Allan E. Registos
- Original Message - From: jordan To: gnome-shell-list@gnome.org Sent: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 15:15:14 +0800 (PHT) Subject: using Gnome-Shell with 90% of all applications is absolute garbage. 1. Graphic Design/animation/video processing the applications i tend to use; a. Autodesk Maya - fo

Re: No minimise/maximise (again)

2011-03-16 Thread Allan E. Registos
It is worthy to note that only GNOME Shell have this _[] removals by default, I can't see it elsewhere in any major OSes. So a "Welcome to GNOME Shell < New Features > < Tour Guide >" startup window with a simple documentation will help users from other environments. I believe this could be als

Re: Where's the width of the title bar stored?

2011-03-11 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Saturday, 12 March, 2011 03:51 AM, Jason D. Clinton wrote: In some hypothetical future filled with unicorns and ponies, application tabs can move from the application up in to the window title bar and then having that space would be advantageous. That's the hope, anyways. Is it the top panel

Re: Shutdown and restart

2011-03-11 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Saturday, 12 March, 2011 04:31 AM, Gendre Sebastien wrote: Reboot is needed for some reasons, the first is dualboot. And hide power off behind the Alt key encouraged to focus on suspend. They want users to focus on suspend and discourage of turning off their systems? Thinking they'd know be

Re: Shutdown and restart

2011-03-10 Thread Allan E. Registos
like gnome-shell, but I know how people are. It might not do any good saying anything at this point, but it's such a simple thing. Justin Edwards Telelanguage Inc For support, please call 1.888.983.5352 and press 3 On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Allan E. Registos <mailto:a

Re: Shutdown and restart

2011-03-10 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Thursday, 10 March, 2011 01:36 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: The thing is, UI freeze has already passed. We can't really make any changes to the UI at this time. So while we can talk about it we can't make any change prior to release. Yes, as I am aware of it. Wanna prove a point further.

Re: Two proposals for Gnome-shell

2011-03-10 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Friday, 11 March, 2011 01:28 AM, Jesse Hutton wrote: True, I guess I ignored the fact that running applications aren't shown twice between the favorites and the workspace containers in your mock-ups. I can't test the shell, does the current GNOME Shell version will still show two icons i

Re: Shutdown and restart

2011-03-09 Thread Allan E. Registos
I think it is more appropriate for now to comment on this list regarding the subject of Shutdown/Restart instead at bugzilla as Andre Klapper[1] suggested. Vish 2011-03-09 10:09:34 UTC There must be an opti

Re: Two proposals for Gnome-shell

2011-03-09 Thread Allan E. Registos
I agree that icons would be simple and faster to render on screen. Yes, they are distinctive and consistent if you want to quickly switch to a different running application, but not anymore good if you want to switch to an instance of the same application. In this case, the super-key is the qui

Re: Shutdown and restart

2011-03-09 Thread Allan E. Registos
Thanks. On Wednesday, 09 March, 2011 05:02 PM, Johannes Schmid wrote: Hi! As you probably found out already, adding +1 on the mailing list has exactly no effect on the gnome-shell design. Please comment here: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=643457 Thanks! -- There must be a comp

Re: Shutdown and restart

2011-03-09 Thread Allan E. Registos
+1. On Wednesday, 09 March, 2011 04:51 PM, Denis Washington wrote: Hi, After a long time of suspicion I finally tried GNOME Shell and must say I really like what I see! However, there are still some gripes that I have. I would like to address one particularly in this post: the shell's offer

Re: Two proposals for Gnome-shell

2011-03-08 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Wednesday, 09 March, 2011 01:16 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: actually, having used the plugin someone kindly supplied that gives thumbnail+label on my laptop but the stock setup on my desktop for the last month or so (yay quasi-empirical data!), I kinda prefer the stock (icon + label) setup. I

Re: Two proposals for Gnome-shell

2011-03-08 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Tuesday, 08 March, 2011 08:52 AM, Allan E. Registos wrote: On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 5:05 PM, David Prieto wrote: > Just for reference, I was thinking of showing the same thumbnails that now > appear when you press down during the Alt+tab switcher. Well, on the latest demo from

Re: GNOME Shell 2.91.91 released

2011-03-07 Thread Allan E. Registos
This is great... Thank you GNOME Shell devs. On Tuesday, 08 March, 2011 01:44 PM, Owen Taylor wrote: * Scale icons rather than using small icons in the overview and Alt-Tab [Florian] -- There must be a computer language that is 100% visual, but runs at the speed of the C language.

Re: Two proposals for Gnome-shell

2011-03-07 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Tuesday, 08 March, 2011 08:10 AM, Robert Park wrote: On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 5:05 PM, David Prieto wrote: > Just for reference, I was thinking of showing the same thumbnails that now > appear when you press down during the Alt+tab switcher. Well, on the latest demo from gnome3.org (0.0.6

Re: GNOME-SHELL, criticism and suggestion and thanks for your job

2011-03-07 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Monday, 07 March, 2011 03:31 PM, informalibre montceau wrote: - Finally, for my part, I think he should really have a new set of icons, much prettier because gnome-shell makes the icons much more value than usual. And there's very ugly. But no doubt you're working. Answer: This icon set for

Re: Window controls for GNOME 3

2011-03-04 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Friday, 04 March, 2011 11:42 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: I agree. As for progress: a message tray icon that subsumes longrunning > 'progress' (file) operations (copy, move, delete, download; maybe > update, install, for packages/applications; ...) with ability to cancel, > pause, restart? Wa

Re: Cannot start GNOME Shell

2011-03-04 Thread Allan E. Registos
nown issue. Marcel Am 04.03.2011 05:19, schrieb Allan E. Registos: > Hi, > > I still can't start run GNOME Shell, it complains: > gnome-shell/install/lib64/gtk-3.0/modules/libcanberra-gtk-module.so: > undefined symbol: gtk_quit_add > Where gtk_quit_add function has been depr

Re: Cannot start GNOME Shell

2011-03-03 Thread Allan E. Registos
Hi, I still can't start run GNOME Shell, it complains: gnome-shell/install/lib64/gtk-3.0/modules/libcanberra-gtk-module.so: undefined symbol: gtk_quit_add Where gtk_quit_add function has been deprecated as mentioned here: http://www.lanedo.com/~carlos/gtk3-doc/gtk3-General.html#gtk-quit-add

Re: Cannot start GNOME Shell

2011-03-03 Thread Allan E. Registos
.0/modules/libcanberra-gtk-module.so: undefined symbol: gtk_quit_add - Original Message ----- From: "Allan E. Registos" To: "Jasper St. Pierre" Cc: "gnome-shell-list" Sent: Friday, March 4, 2011 8:10:44 AM Subject: Re: Cannot start GNOME Shell T

Re: Cannot start GNOME Shell

2011-03-03 Thread Allan E. Registos
Thanks again... - Original Message - From: "Jasper St. Pierre" To: "Allan E. Registos" Cc: "gnome-shell-list" Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2011 4:49:14 PM Subject: Re: Cannot start GNOME Shell $ jhbuild build -afc We don't know why, but what&#

Re: Cannot start GNOME Shell

2011-03-02 Thread Allan E. Registos
# ~/gnome-shell/source/gnome-shell/src/gnome-shell --replace Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module": libpk-gtk-module.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory (mutter:27445): mutter-WARNING **: Could not load library [/usr/local/lib/mutter/plugins/libgn

Re: Window controls for GNOME 3

2011-03-02 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Thursday, 03 March, 2011 02:15 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: In an ideal world there should be no need for maximize/restore. > App should be able to know the size that displayed-content requires to > display, notifies the window manager and the window resizes accordingly. Oh god, no. Agree. Y

Re: Window controls for GNOME 3

2011-03-02 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Wednesday, 02 March, 2011 10:54 PM, Thomas Bouffon wrote: The close button is a different case : How will we force firefox to quit when it hangs ? In that case, close button is not of any help. The "Force a misbehaving program to quit" applet is what you need.

Re: Window controls for GNOME 3

2011-03-02 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Wednesday, 02 March, 2011 05:36 AM, William Jon McCann wrote: Hey Sandy, On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Sandy Armstrong wrote: (What happened to your mail client line-wrapping settings?) On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Owen Taylor wrote: The maximize button === The a

Re: Activity Bar Panel Provides Little Utility, Takes Up Space, And is Distracting

2011-02-28 Thread Allan E. Registos
Hi, My opinion is that the top panel is not at all distracting, but its lack of functions will certainly cause the distraction especially for small screens <=15" like mine. It only display a calendar, user menu and the activities section and almost nothing else. The only thing that GS was suc

Re: The logic behind remove "Restart" and hide "Power Off" in User menu

2011-02-27 Thread Allan E. Registos
- Original Message - >From: "Jasper St. Pierre" >To: "Allan E. Registos" >Cc: gnome-shell-list@gnome.org >Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 2:34:42 PM >Subject: Re: The logic behind remove "Restart" and hide "Power Off" in Use

Re: The logic behind remove "Restart" and hide "Power Off" in User menu

2011-02-27 Thread Allan E. Registos
:CanSuspend method return sender=:1.39 -> dest=:1.169 reply_serial=2 variant boolean true - Original Message - >From: "Jasper St. Pierre" >To: "Allan E. Registos" >Cc: gnome-shell-list@gnome.org >Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 2:20:25 PM &g

Re: The logic behind remove "Restart" and hide "Power Off" in User menu

2011-02-27 Thread Allan E. Registos
- Original Message - From: "Jasper St. Pierre" To: "Allan E. Registos" Cc: gnome-shell-list@gnome.org Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 1:27:02 PM Subject: Re: gnome-shell-list@gnome.org >>>If the kernel doesn't tell us that we support standby, we d

Re: gnome-shell-list@gnome.org

2011-02-27 Thread Allan E. Registos
- Original Message - >From: "Jasper St. Pierre" >To: "Allan E. Registos" >Cc: gnome-shell-list@gnome.org >Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 10:09:57 AM >Subject: Re: gnome-shell-list@gnome.org >If the kernel doesn't tell us that we support

Re: gnome-shell-list@gnome.org

2011-02-27 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Sunday, 27 February, 2011 03:37 AM, Gendre Sebastien wrote: Le samedi 26 février 2011 à 12:27 -0500, William Jon McCann a écrit : encourages them to waste energy. I'm usually inclined to ignore claims like this that don't provide any supporting evidence. You want some evidence? Maybe you ar

Re: File Search in Overview

2011-02-27 Thread Allan E. Registos
Therefore, no file search at the GNOME Shell release. So, GNOME Shell must be my secondary option, file search is a major feature, not an after-thought. - Original Message - From: "Jasper St. Pierre" To: "Patrick Michael Niedzielski" Cc: "Lucas David-Roesler" , gnome-shell-list@gnom

Re: Shelf workspace: an alternative way of hiding windows?

2011-02-25 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Saturday, 26 February, 2011 04:36 AM, Gendre Sebastien wrote: Greate idea. But I think it's a heavy design. No? It's need other review than mine, but I think it's a good start. Le jeudi 24 février 2011 à 11:24 -0800, coulamac a écrit : Perhaps an alternative way to hide windows is to hav

Re: Cannot start GNOME Shell (Solved! First Observations)

2011-02-24 Thread Allan E. Registos
On Friday, 25 February, 2011 08:44 AM, Jasper St. Pierre wrote: On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Allan E. Registos wrote: Thanks for that, it works for now. My First Observations: 1. No minimize button except for applications with customize window controls like Google Chrome. Going to use

Re: Cannot start GNOME Shell (Solved! First Observations)

2011-02-24 Thread Allan E. Registos
quot; To: "Allan E. Registos" Cc: "gnome-shell-list" Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 8:02:04 AM Subject: Re: Cannot start GNOME Shell That is a different error that you can fix with: $ rm /home/allan.registos/gnome-shell/install/lib64/gtk-3.0/modules/libcanberra-gtk-module.

Re: Cannot start GNOME Shell

2011-02-24 Thread Allan E. Registos
t;Jasper St. Pierre" To: "Allan E. Registos" Cc: "gnome-shell-list" Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 12:15:03 PM Subject: Re: Cannot start GNOME Shell Can you file a bug at https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=mutter and attach the backtrace? On Sun, Feb

Fwd: [Bug 642851] Crash at startup

2011-02-23 Thread Allan E. Registos
Still I'm unable to test GNOME Shell, I am about to wipe the gnome-shell directory and will start from scratch, the reason why I did not do this earlier is because I have a slow connection. Starting from scratch takes a lot of time... Regards, Allan [allan.registos@developer ~]$ gnome-sh

Re: Cannot start GNOME Shell

2011-02-20 Thread Allan E. Registos
Done... Thanks... Regards, Allan Registos - Original Message - From: "Jasper St. Pierre" To: "Allan E. Registos" Cc: "gnome-shell-list" Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 12:15:03 PM Subject: Re: Cannot start GNOME Shell Can you file a bug

Re: Cannot start GNOME Shell

2011-02-20 Thread Allan E. Registos
) at core/screen.c:768 #14 0x004394dc in meta_display_open () at core/display.c:802 #15 0x00443735 in main (argc=1, argv=0x7fffdde8) at core/main.c:704 (gdb) call gjs_dumpstack() (gdb) From: "Jasper St. Pierre" To: "Allan E. Registos" Cc: "gnome

Re: Cannot start GNOME Shell

2011-02-20 Thread Allan E. Registos
Thanks for that.. I will do that later as this is a production machine... Regards, Allan - Original Message - From: "Jasper St. Pierre" To: "Allan E. Registos" Cc: "gnome-shell-list" Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 10:01:32 AM Subject: Re: Cannot

Cannot start GNOME Shell

2011-02-20 Thread Allan E. Registos
Hi, Got this error when trying to run GNOME Shell after a successful build using jhbuild: ./gnome-shell --replace Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module": libpk-gtk-module.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberr

Re: Jhbuild error

2011-02-20 Thread Allan E. Registos
Hi, Sorry for my incapacity, obviously -devel must be needed to compile things... Thanks again... Regards, Allan - Original Message - From: "Jasper St. Pierre" To: "Allan E. Registos" Cc: "gnome-shell-list" Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 8:

Re: Jhbuild error

2011-02-20 Thread Allan E. Registos
packages. On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Allan E. Registos wrote: Hi list, It's been a while testing the Shell, and just wanted to test the latest GNOME Shell, but encountered this error: checking whether iso-codes exists... no configure: error: You must have iso-codes. *** Error during

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