Re: [GNC] [GNC-dev] Recording dividend payoffs

2019-04-16 Thread Christopher Lam
I suspect there's vocabulary issue here. Justin are you talking about Dividends whereby the business owner (with shareholders) sends monies to shareholders? I don't know how to book these transactions. Asset:Bank -> Expenses:Dividends? Or are we talking about Dividends whereby the individual

Re: [GNC] Credits and Debits

2019-04-16 Thread John Clark via gnucash-user
> On Apr 15, 2019, at 11:17 PM, AEG via gnucash-user > wrote: > > The concept of Credits and Debits confuses most newcomers to GnuCash (it did > me), so I devised a way to remember which goes where. > Given that transactions involve the movement of money from one account to > another... > >

Re: [GNC] [GNC-dev] Recording dividend payoffs

2019-04-16 Thread Justin Mathew via gnucash-user
John, Do you even realize what you've typed? > Sorry, you're wrong on both points. Apparently you're also implying that not just me, but the whole accounting ecosystem is wrong because we all believe that Retained Earnings is net income minus dividend payments. > GnuCash doesn't care about

Re: [GNC] Transaction Report with ver.3.5 not working?

2019-04-16 Thread Denis
Thanks for your comments I will fill a bug report. After testing different approachs, checking preferences, and since all sorting keys are working just fine EXCEPT the month, it's to me obvious that there is a bug. I want to thank everybody for their comments. You were a precious help. Denis

Re: [GNC] Credits and Debits

2019-04-16 Thread AEG via gnucash-user
When entering transactions I just remember that money moves from right to left. Colin Whilst that is true and the arrangement of named columns in GnuCash serves as a reminder, it is still necessary for the user to decide on which account row of the relevant column to enter transaction amounts,

Re: [GNC] Debian Files for GnuCash 3.4-x

2019-04-16 Thread stephen.m.butler51
Interesting.   I'm on the way to the Oregon coast for the rest of the week.  These were built for Trusty so may be too old for Buster.Can you build from source?Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Original message From: boldstripe Date: 4/16/19 10:58 (GMT-08:00)

Re: [GNC] Debian Files for GnuCash 3.4-x

2019-04-16 Thread boldstripe
And if I uninstall old gnucash first (as described in an older message above) then try to install the three items separately, I get the same errors about libboost and libpython dependencies. -- Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html

Re: [GNC] Equity Calculation on the Balance Sheet

2019-04-16 Thread Adrien Monteleone
I work from home and am very flexible. Sometimes I don’t get on the list for a few weeks at a time though. Afraid I’m stumped at the moment then. If I find something else to test, I’ll pass it on. It may be time for a bug report. Regards, Adrien > On Apr 16, 2019, at 12:58 PM, Tom Balaban

Re: [GNC] Equity Calculation on the Balance Sheet

2019-04-16 Thread Tom Balaban
Again thanks Adrien. I don't know how you get any of your own work done given the amount of support you give all of us. It's greatly appreciated. Still no joy. The account tree shows no sub-accounts for Accounts Receivable and Accounts Payable. I reran the Balance Sheet with "show Hidden

Re: [GNC] Cannot retrieve quotes for some securities

2019-04-16 Thread wendiallen via gnucash-user
Renaming wperl.exe worked. Thank you for the help. Incidentally... I tried running exetype.bat (as an administrator), but I got an error concerning not having permission to open perl.exe. I'm guessing it was referring to exetype not having the right privilege, but I didn't investigate further.

Re: [GNC] Recording dividend payoffs

2019-04-16 Thread Justin Mathew via gnucash-user
Oh yes, it does! As mentioned in my other email to John Ralls, the reason I started this thread in the dev mailing list is to figure out a fix for the software, at least for the next release. And I am not sure how did this topic get divided into two threads. - Regards, Justin Mathew

Re: [GNC] Need help with a Savings account

2019-04-16 Thread Colin Law
On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 01:14, John Clark via gnucash-user wrote: > > Because these terms ‘never make sense’, as seen by this example. It is far > more simpler to just say, money coming in, on the left, money going out on > the right… or is the other way around... Money moves from right to

Re: [GNC] Credits and Debits

2019-04-16 Thread Colin Law
When entering transactions I just remember that money moves from right to left. Colin On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 07:19, AEG via gnucash-user wrote: > > The concept of Credits and Debits confuses most newcomers to GnuCash (it did > me), so I devised a way to remember which goes where. > Given that

Re: [GNC] Debian Files for GnuCash 3.4-x

2019-04-16 Thread Stephen M. Butler
On 4/16/19 6:25 AM, boldstripe wrote: > Are the Debian 3.5 packages available now? The link above is for the 3.4 > package. This folder should have the 3.5 deb files:  https://drive.google.com/open?id=11gjnSIw9E8B8kOJ01DHQuEA83xidbw8E -- Stephen M Butler, PMP, PSM stephen.m.butle...@gmail.com

Re: [GNC] Equity Calculation on the Balance Sheet

2019-04-16 Thread Tom Balaban
Hi Adrien, Thanks for that explanation. On the issue of different amounts in the BS and the aged payables, I don't know where to go to get this resolved. The Aged Payables report show $83.65, The bottom of the AP ledger shows $83.65. There are no unmatched lots in the AP ledger. Since we

Re: [GNC] Recording dividend payoffs

2019-04-16 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Certainly, But it serves as a temporary workaround till then. Regards, Adrien > On Apr 16, 2019, at 10:05 AM, Justin Mathew wrote: > >> I understand that you would have two ‘Retained Earnings’ lines, one being >> the actual account and the other being the calculated amount by GnuCash. The

Re: [GNC] Recording dividend payoffs

2019-04-16 Thread Justin Mathew via gnucash-user
> I understand that you would have two ‘Retained Earnings’ lines, one being the > actual account and the other being the calculated amount by GnuCash. The sum > of the two should be the true amount. This means you can’t submit the report > as-is, but you could certainly export to a spreadsheet

Re: [GNC] Transaction Report with ver.3.5 not working?

2019-04-16 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Also, any time you get an error message in the future, including the text of that error message in your original post will assist anyone helping you with narrowing down the problem faster than the several back and forth exchanges already endured to get to this point. Regards, Adrien > On Apr

Re: [GNC] Transaction Report with ver.3.5 not working?

2019-04-16 Thread Christopher Lam
Ok if there is a error message on a blank page then we want the https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Tracefile and a bug report in https://bugs.gnucash.org/ On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 14:35, Denis wrote: > I may have found a problem with my "french" version of Gnucash ? It would > be > a question of date

Re: [GNC] Transaction Report with ver.3.5 not working?

2019-04-16 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Be certain in your preferences under Date/Time that you have the proper locale set. And if you don’t mind, please report it back here. If there is a bug and it is known, someone might see the reference. Regards, Adrien > On Apr 16, 2019, at 9:33 AM, Denis wrote: > > I may have found a

Re: [GNC] Recording dividend payoffs

2019-04-16 Thread Adrien Monteleone
If you create an Equity:Retained Earnings account and debit it, while crediting Dividends Payable (the formal method) does this not show up on the Balance Sheet? I understand that you would have two ‘Retained Earnings’ lines, one being the actual account and the other being the calculated

Re: [GNC] Transaction Report with ver.3.5 not working?

2019-04-16 Thread Justin Mathew via gnucash-user
I am not sure I understand. > First, I can produce a complete list of all transactions for what ever dates > I want. How are your producing it? Do you mean opening an account register? - Regards, Justin Mathew mjus...@protonmail.com Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message

Re: [GNC] Transaction Report with ver.3.5 not working?

2019-04-16 Thread Denis
I may have found a problem with my "french" version of Gnucash ? It would be a question of date format maybe. (Date format: -mm-dd) First, I can produce a complete list of all transactions for what ever dates I want. Next, in the General Tab I can get transaction from 2017 until now. Then

Re: [GNC] Cannot retrieve quotes for some securities

2019-04-16 Thread John Ralls
> On Apr 15, 2019, at 9:37 PM, wendiallen via gnucash-user > wrote: > > Yahoo as JSON works. Thank you. One related question... Since installing > the additional software for online quotes, a command window pops up for a > few seconds when GnuCash starts, as well as when I click "get

Re: [GNC] Recording dividend payoffs

2019-04-16 Thread Justin Mathew via gnucash-user
Christopher, > The "Retained Earnings" part of the Balance Sheet has nothing to do with > dividends. > > IIUC on the balance sheet date X, the retained earnings simply means the > total income up to date X, minus total expenses up to date X. Don't get me wrong, the 'retained earnings' anywhere

Re: [GNC] Debian Files for GnuCash 3.4-x

2019-04-16 Thread boldstripe
Are the Debian 3.5 packages available now? The link above is for the 3.4 package. -- Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription

Re: [GNC] Run GnuCash Upgrades Side-by-side With Older Versions

2019-04-16 Thread Justin Mathew via gnucash-user
Ah, well I couldn't get that point. I guess the only way for OP is to try a virtual box if running both version is equally important. - Regards, Justin Mathew mjus...@protonmail.com Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, April

Re: [GNC] Run GnuCash Upgrades Side-by-side With Older Versions

2019-04-16 Thread David Carlson
The whole point of OP's asking this question is how to cope with the fact that the 3.x series ruins Windows for using the 2.6.x series except 2.6.21, but some features are permanently broken and can only be reverted at great manual effort. That is why some of us are so slow to update. David

Re: [GNC] Recording dividend payoffs

2019-04-16 Thread Christopher Lam
The "Retained Earnings" part of the Balance Sheet has nothing to do with dividends. IIUC on the balance sheet date X, the retained earnings simply means the total income up to date X, minus total expenses up to date X. If the books were 'closed' on date X, the income would be zeroed out to

Re: [GNC] Run GnuCash Upgrades Side-by-side With Older Versions

2019-04-16 Thread Justin Mathew via gnucash-user
Sorry, disregard my below email. Take a look at this -> https://portableapps.com/apps/office/gnucash_portable It also says, "GnuCash Portable can run from a cloud folder, external drive, or local folder without installing into Windows. It's even better with the PortableApps.com Platform for

Re: [GNC] Gnucash Price updating

2019-04-16 Thread David Carlson
Ronjnk, Updating stock prices has never been as trivial as we wish it to be in Gnucash. It is necessary to decide which stocks we want to follow, then go through several steps , including using the security editor for each one to define what source to get the price from, using the price editor

Re: [GNC] Need help with a Savings account

2019-04-16 Thread Michael or Penny Novack
On 4/15/2019 6:11 PM, ToddAndMargo via gnucash-user wrote: Hi All, Now that I am feeling brave coming off of creating a charge card account, I decided to create a saving account. My bank statement shows deposits as positive numbers and withdrawals as negative numbers, so I decided to follow

Re: [GNC] Run GnuCash Upgrades Side-by-side With Older Versions

2019-04-16 Thread Justin Mathew via gnucash-user
For which platform? - Regards, Justin Mathew mjus...@protonmail.com Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 5:36 PM, David Carlson wrote: > Are there instructions somewhere on how to run a portableapps session? > > David Carlson > > On

Re: [GNC] Recording dividend payoffs

2019-04-16 Thread Justin Mathew via gnucash-user
Maf, > you should keep replies on-list, others can contribute and maybe in the future > the thread can save a question being asked in the first place "reply All" > in your email client is a good way. Opps, I had read about it, but missed it in the heat of replying. Will keep that mind

Re: [GNC] Run GnuCash Upgrades Side-by-side With Older Versions

2019-04-16 Thread David Carlson
Are there instructions somewhere on how to run a portableapps session? David Carlson On Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 3:30 AM Christopher Lam wrote: > You can always run a portableapps session. > > On Mon., 15 Apr. 2019, 23:59 Greg Feneis, wrote: > > > Win 7-64, GnuCash 6.2.21 > > > > Hi Folks, > > > >

Re: [GNC] Recording dividend payoffs

2019-04-16 Thread Maf. King
Hi Justin, you should keep replies on-list, others can contribute and maybe in the future the thread can save a question being asked in the first place "reply All" in your email client is a good way. I think it is a bit of a technical distinction, GAAP left over from the days of paper

Re: [GNC] Recording dividend payoffs

2019-04-16 Thread Maf. King
Hi Justin, while it is contrary to the advice given in the link you supplied, I've always recorded dividend payouts as an Expense - but it is one of a handful that are excluded from the corporation tax calc, as they are declared after tax / from profits. My accountant has never complained -

[GNC] Recording dividend payoffs

2019-04-16 Thread Justin Mathew via gnucash-user
Hi, I am trying to record cash dividend payoffs in gnucash. As per accounting basics, the 'Retained Earnings' is the company's net profit (minus dividends as well). I also read this - https://www.double-entry-bookkeeping.com/capital/dividends/ which explained the same steps that I did. Or did

Re: [GNC] Gnucash Price updating

2019-04-16 Thread ronjnk
Hello David, Just a final note. Again, thank you for your help. I'm going to give up at this point and update prices manually. I don't want to be going into the terminal to get my software to work. Much too complicated. I understand the developers count on a reliable price quote and when

Re: [GNC] Run GnuCash Upgrades Side-by-side With Older Versions

2019-04-16 Thread Christopher Lam
You can always run a portableapps session. On Mon., 15 Apr. 2019, 23:59 Greg Feneis, wrote: > Win 7-64, GnuCash 6.2.21 > > Hi Folks, > > Is there a way to install a new version without uninstalling the old > version? The install wizard doesn't seem to let me select the install > location,

Re: [GNC] Need help with a Savings account

2019-04-16 Thread Fred Bone
On 15 April 2019 at 15:43, ToddAndMargo said: [...] > So, when I deposit something to the bank, I am actually > losing money (giving it to someone else), so it is a debit? No, you are handing it to them, so they owe it back. That's what "debit" means, after all. > So I should switch my opening

Re: [GNC] Run GnuCash Upgrades Side-by-side With Older Versions

2019-04-16 Thread davidbrown.rdps
I wonder if creating another windows account as a user/guest, doing an install would allow that single user to be the benefit of that installed programme. Ther is sometimes the question during install whether for 1 user or all users. It does also give the benefit of the local files in

Re: [GNC] Cannot retrieve quotes for some securities

2019-04-16 Thread Erik Colson
David T. via gnucash-user writes: > Alphavantage implemented limits on the number of quotes that can be retrieved > at a time. This was discussed some months back, with suggestions on different > remedies. > > Changing the source to "Yahoo as json" is one of those solutions. Editing the >

[GNC] Credits and Debits

2019-04-16 Thread AEG via gnucash-user
The concept of Credits and Debits confuses most newcomers to GnuCash (it did me), so I devised a way to remember which goes where. Given that transactions involve the movement of money from one account to another... (C)redits belong to the (C)ontributing accounts. (D)ebits belong to the