On 27/07/2017 04:03, John Ralls wrote:
That applies to MTD as well: Of our current regular contributors only Mike
Evans is British; if he’s not motivated to develop the support someone else
from the UK will have to step up or it won’t happen.
If you're OK with SQL I can do it too. Copying an
On 23/08/2017 18:11, mike.m...@gmx.net wrote:
A little more reading.
[1]https://www.cchdaily.co.uk/lords-probe-software-companies-lack-readiness-m
aking-tax-digital
Please note that this link is mostly outdated, espcially the deadlines
mentioned are not any more applicable.
The g
>> A little more reading.
>>
>> [1]https://www.cchdaily.co.uk/lords-probe-software-companies-lack-readiness-m
aking-tax-digital
Please note that this link is mostly outdated, espcially the deadlines
mentioned are not any more applicable.
The general gist of the linked article is worth r
A little more reading.
https://www.cchdaily.co.uk/lords-probe-software-companies-lack-readiness-making-tax-digital
and
https://github.com/hmrc
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I see what you mean now... this seems similar to the copyright
related laws in China (which unfortunatelly make GPL'd software in a state
similar to public domain), there was a debate about this in
libreplanet-discuss
([[https://lists.gnu.org/archive/cgi-bin/namazu.cgi?query=%2Bsubject%3A%7Bsuggest
As far as I am aware, there shouldn't be any licensing issues on the FOSS
side about including a government-granted key in the distribution. There
are severe technical issues, which may impact licensing, in keeping the
government-granted key a secret. Since the last bit is the important part,
as fa
Just to make usre that I'm clear: My last message about keeping *my*
mouth closed was a way to tell that *I* won't comment on that for now
because I'd still have to study and gather proof. That is: That message
was not meant to be harsh towards someone.
I hope this helps. :)
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On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 11:19:23AM -0300, Adonay Felipe Nogueira wrote:
> I don't know if there's a licensing issue or not in regards to having a
> file include/inclusion with such key, so I'll just keep my mouth closed
> for now on that matter. :)
I am sure that many will not be so coy and keep t
Also, depending on how this VAT process is implemented, GnuCash could
make use of some Guile/Scheme modules to do the process of filling the
form, and downloading the PDF.
However, I'm not from the UK, so I don't know exactly where to go to in
order to do so. But, if I'm given a URL/location, I ca
I don't know if there's a licensing issue or not in regards to having a
file include/inclusion with such key, so I'll just keep my mouth closed
for now on that matter. :)
Perhaps, though, instead of requiring a file include/inclusion that
would theoretically have the key, perhaps one could make th
On Tuesday, 1 August 2017 11:24:19 BST Alain Williams wrote:
> > Out of curiosity, who wants MTD?
>
> I don't. It will involve me in a lot of extra work that adds nothing to my
> business.
>
> I am happy with doing VAT on-line -- just login to HMRC web site, enter a
> few numbers into a web page
On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 02:13:48PM -0500, GWB wrote:
> But who knows. I'm averse to having information stored in a digital
> format on government servers because it will eventually be hacked,
> stolen, or otherwise used for something other than the original and
> limited intention (you can pick y
On 31 July 2017 at 13:55, Derek Atkins said:
> Mike,
>
> mike.m...@gmx.net writes:
>
> >[If you don't mind me saying this: I haven't seen mailman lists for
> >quite some years and I was a little surprised to see they still
> >exist. I could not find any way how to add another comment
This reminds me of an earlier question from a user in Sweden.
Apparently governments (Sweden in that case, the UK in this one) are
getting into the habit of specifying not only acceptable tax software
but also accounting software. The UK has not yet required businesses
of a certain size to use spe
Mike,
mike.m...@gmx.net writes:
>[If you don't mind me saying this: I haven't seen mailman lists for
>quite some years and I was a little surprised to see they still exist.
>I could not find any way how to add another comment to a given thread,
>despite having started the thread m
A shared library would even better imo. Similar to what aqbanking does for
online bank communications.
That would allow for easier integration with gnucash and even other open source
applications that wish to interact with HMRC.
Regards,
Geert
Alain Williams schreef op 27 juli 2017 11:01:10 C
Indeed, that kind of job is already being done.
I wonder what they really want with this MTD. Perhaps it's best to ask
them directly, pointing out that if their goal is to make tax
transactions happen digitally, then it's already being done, and also
telling them the issue with requiring "secret"
On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 04:51:27PM +0100, Colin Law wrote:
> I don't think it is about stopping fiddling, I think it is about
> saving money. If everything is done digitally by us then there is less
> for government employees to do, so cost saving.
But tax has had to be submitted digitally for a
On 27 July 2017 at 16:31, Alain Williams wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 10:22:40AM -0500, Tommy Trussell wrote:
>
>> SO (in my opinion, not a UK citizen, other disclaimers applicable, etc.)
>> it's not a mathematical problem, it's a political one.
>
> +1
>
> Which comes back to the question: wha
On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 10:22:40AM -0500, Tommy Trussell wrote:
> SO (in my opinion, not a UK citizen, other disclaimers applicable, etc.)
> it's not a mathematical problem, it's a political one.
+1
Which comes back to the question: what it MTD really about ?
I suspect that they want a 'closed
On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 5:55 AM, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) <
drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk> wrote:
> On 25 July 2017 at 17:54, David Goodenough <
> david.goodeno...@linkchoose.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >
> > There is a problem. They want to assign a secret ID to each piece of
> > software
On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 12:52:41AM +, Buddha Buck wrote:
> GnuCash does not currently (to my knowledge) support any
> jurisdiction-specify tax policy or reporting requirements. To do so for one
> would imply that it should do so for all, and that is a maintenance
> nightmare. As such, I think
> On Jul 26, 2017, at 5:52 PM, Buddha Buck wrote:
>
> GnuCash does not currently (to my knowledge) support any
> jurisdiction-specify tax policy or reporting requirements. To do so for one
> would imply that it should do so for all, and that is a maintenance
> nightmare. As such, I think it mor
On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 6:53 PM wrote:
>
>The need for a secret code to identify approved software was mentioned.
>Secret or not, why is it against OpenSource ideals when HMRC wants to
>assure that only software with the right capabilities can be used?
>
One of the ideals of FOSS is
[If you don't mind me saying this: I haven't seen mailman lists for
quite some years and I was a little surprised to see they still exist.
I could not find any way how to add another comment to a given thread,
despite having started the thread myself. This contribution may well
appe
There is a precedent in that HMRC. have a Linux edition of Basic PAYE
Tools. This is only 32bit software but is not difficult to get to run on
any distribution. It allows HMRC. to know what they are owed every week
after you do your payroll and deduct income tax & national insurance.
You have t
On 25 July 2017 at 17:54, David Goodenough <
david.goodeno...@linkchoose.co.uk> wrote:
>
> There is a problem. They want to assign a secret ID to each piece of
> software
> and so if you say it is open source they then refuse to allocate an ID as
> it
> will not be secret. I have raised this wit
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 05:54:44PM +0100, David Goodenough wrote:
> There is a problem. They want to assign a secret ID to each piece of software
> and so if you say it is open source they then refuse to allocate an ID as it
> will not be secret. I have raised this with the cabinet office digita
On Tuesday, 25 July 2017 17:39:29 BST Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd)
wrote:
> On 25 July 2017 at 15:21, John Ralls wrote:
> > > https://hmrcdigital.blog.gov.uk/2016/07/14/talking-openly-at
> >
> > -open-source-16/
> >
> > That talk is about how much HMRC enjoys using software that they
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 11:43:02AM +0100, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave
Ltd) wrote:
> Even businesses below that threshold, may well chose to register for VAT.
> If a UK company sells a lot of goods outside the European Union, then it
> makes sense, as the business can recover the cost of th
On 25 July 2017 at 15:21, John Ralls wrote:
>
>
>
> > https://hmrcdigital.blog.gov.uk/2016/07/14/talking-openly-at
> -open-source-16/
>
> That talk is about how much HMRC enjoys using software that they don’t
> have to pay for and how they’ve published some of their web code on GitHub.
> It doesn
> On Jul 25, 2017, at 1:40 AM, Mike Evans wrote:
>
> On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 21:39:43 -0700
> John Ralls wrote:
>
>>> On Jul 24, 2017, at 4:01 PM, mike.m...@gmx.net wrote:
>>>
>>> In about a year's time the UK taxman (HMRC) will only allow approved
>>> accounting software to transmit the trans
On Tuesday, 25 July 2017 13:43:05 BST Christopher Lam wrote:
> I'd be quite keen to know processes for submitting VAT returns. I've never
> registered for VAT while I was UK resident but I'm submitting Australian
> GST statements quarterly.
> I'm enjoying learning scheme and I feel I will be able t
I'd be quite keen to know processes for submitting VAT returns. I've never
registered for VAT while I was UK resident but I'm submitting Australian
GST statements quarterly.
I'm enjoying learning scheme and I feel I will be able to generate a
workable GST/VAT scheme report within weeks.
On 25 July
On 25 July 2017 at 11:43, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd)
wrote:
> On 25 July 2017 at 05:39, John Ralls wrote:
> ...
> If there's no desire/developer time to support this, then its not worth
> giving it any more consideration. But IF there was a willingness to develop
> it, then I think i
On 25 July 2017 at 05:39, John Ralls wrote:
>
>
> > On Jul 24, 2017, at 4:01 PM, mike.m...@gmx.net wrote:
> >
> > In about a year's time the UK taxman (HMRC) will only allow approved
> > accounting software to transmit the transctions required by law to
> > HMRC.
> > The project is known
On 25 July 2017 at 1:01, mike.m...@gmx.net said:
>In about a year's time the UK taxman (HMRC) will only allow approved
>accounting software to transmit the transctions required by law to
>HMRC. The project is known as Making Tax Digital or MTD No exact
>details or requirements to
On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 21:39:43 -0700
John Ralls wrote:
> > On Jul 24, 2017, at 4:01 PM, mike.m...@gmx.net wrote:
> >
> > In about a year's time the UK taxman (HMRC) will only allow approved
> > accounting software to transmit the transctions required by law to
> > HMRC.
> > The project is
On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 21:39:43 -0700
John Ralls wrote:
> > On Jul 24, 2017, at 4:01 PM, mike.m...@gmx.net wrote:
> >
> > In about a year's time the UK taxman (HMRC) will only allow approved
> > accounting software to transmit the transctions required by law to
> > HMRC.
> > The project is
> On Jul 24, 2017, at 4:01 PM, mike.m...@gmx.net wrote:
>
> In about a year's time the UK taxman (HMRC) will only allow approved
> accounting software to transmit the transctions required by law to
> HMRC.
> The project is known as Making Tax Digital or MTD
> No exact details or requi
In about a year's time the UK taxman (HMRC) will only allow approved
accounting software to transmit the transctions required by law to
HMRC.
The project is known as Making Tax Digital or MTD
No exact details or requirements to softwaremakers have been published,
but will gnucash
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