Re: Fwd: GNU hackers discover HACIENDA government surveillance and give us a way to fight back

2014-08-21 Thread Robert J. Hansen
> Just to get pedantic, according to Wikipedia [1]: First, thank you for citing a definition rather than using a loose handle on a notion. I genuinely appreciate it! > That seems pretty clear to me that HACIENDA is indeed a surveillance program. It also means that a newspaper reporting on the o

Re: Fwd: GNU hackers discover HACIENDA government surveillance and give us a way to fight back

2014-08-21 Thread Filip M. Nowak
Hi, > Name me any piece of non-trivial information which doesn't have the > potential to be used against someone. What do you mean by non-trivial? Regards, Filip ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org

Re: Fwd: GNU hackers discover HACIENDA government surveillance and give us a way to fight back

2014-08-21 Thread Aaron Toponce
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 12:46:38AM +0200, Gabriel Niebler wrote: > On the contrary, IMO this sort of thing is fully encompassed by the > word surveillance, at least as far as I have always understood it. > Otherwise any surveillance camera installed in a public or publicly > accessible place would

Re: Fwd: GNU hackers discover HACIENDA government surveillance and give us a way to fight back

2014-08-21 Thread Gabriel Niebler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 I'm sorry, I know this is OT for the list, but... Am 21.08.2014 um 15:54 schrieb Robert J. Hansen: >> GNU community members and collaborators have discovered >> threatening details about a five-country government surveillance >> program codenamed HA

Re: Fwd: GNU hackers discover HACIENDA government surveillance and give us a way to fight back

2014-08-21 Thread Robert J. Hansen
On 8/21/2014 3:35 PM, Johannes Zarl wrote: > "Compiling a collection of publicly available information" is an > almost perfect description of the term "surveillance". E.g. a > surveillance camera does exactly that: it collects publicly available > information. So does the phone book, Wikipedia, an

Re: Fwd: GNU hackers discover HACIENDA government surveillance and give us a way to fight back

2014-08-21 Thread Johannes Zarl
On Thursday 21 August 2014 11:41:40 Robert J. Hansen wrote: > If it escalates to an intrusion, then yes, that's definitely > surveillance in my book. Compiling a collection of publicly available > information is not. "Compiling a collection of publicly available information" is an almost perfect

Re: [Announce] Libgcrypt 1.6.2 released

2014-08-21 Thread Robert J. Hansen
Can anyone tell me how to remove myself from this list? Sure. Read any of the emails that get posted to this list. Particularly, please note: ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users

RE: [Announce] Libgcrypt 1.6.2 released

2014-08-21 Thread Shannon Crader
Hello, Can anyone tell me how to remove myself from this list? I tried sending an email to the email listed on the site, but I haven't gotten a response and still get the emails. Thanks, Shannon -Original Message- From: Gnupg-users [mailto:gnupg-users-bounces+scrader=carrollu...

Re: Fwd: GNU hackers discover HACIENDA government surveillance and give us a way to fight back

2014-08-21 Thread Robert J. Hansen
I'm not happy with that definition/understanding of "surveillance". It's not just about "reporting on what colors people's houses are" - it's more about someone going to every door, trying to open it, and noting what kind of door and lock there is. Then, comes back with a key, opens the door, inst

Re: Fwd: GNU hackers discover HACIENDA government surveillance and give us a way to fight back

2014-08-21 Thread flapflap
Robert J. Hansen: [snip] > Also note that, contrary to the FSF's press release, this isn't > government surveillance. It isn't even surveillance in the usual sense > of the word. If you run a public service like HTTP, how is it > "surveillance" for someone, anyone, to say "the server sixdemonbag.

[Announce] Libgcrypt 1.6.2 released

2014-08-21 Thread Werner Koch
Hello! The GNU project is pleased to announce the availability of Libgcrypt version 1.6.2. This is a maintenance release to fix problems found in the recently released versions. Libgcrypt is a general purpose library of cryptographic building blocks. It does not provide any implementation of Ope

Re: Fwd: GNU hackers discover HACIENDA government surveillance and give us a way to fight back

2014-08-21 Thread Robert J. Hansen
GNU community members and collaborators have discovered threatening details about a five-country government surveillance program codenamed HACIENDA. The good news? Those same hackers have already worked out a free software countermeasure to thwart the program. A little late to the party. This s

Fwd: GNU hackers discover HACIENDA government surveillance and give us a way to fight back

2014-08-21 Thread da...@gbenet.com
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - Original Message Subject:GNU hackers discover HACIENDA government surveillance and give us a way to fight back Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:02:21 -0400 From: Free Software Foundation Reply-To: Free Software Found