Re: GnuPG 2.1.0 Merging secret key

2014-11-14 Thread Werner Koch
On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 21:00, must...@mustrum.net said: I'm wondering : what is the planned usage for that feature ? --try-secret-keys is used to specify keys to be used in addition to the default secret key when it comes to decrypt messages with anonymous recipients. I have often the case that I

Re: Help needed

2014-11-14 Thread da...@gbenet.com
On 14/11/14 04:11, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: Hi David-- You sound frustrated. hopefully we can help you figure things out. Some of the details of what's happened on your machine(s) sound unclear to me, and we'll be able to help you better with more precise information. On 11/13/2014

Re: Fermi estimates

2014-11-14 Thread Pete Stephenson
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Johan Wevers joh...@vulcan.xs4all.nl wrote: On 14-11-2014 3:15, Robert J. Hansen wrote: 10**38 attempts at 10**6 bitflips per attempt equals 10**44 bitflips total. At carpet-scuffing power, that's about 10**15 joules of energy, [...] But to make our

Re: gpg4usb: Portable GUI for GnuPG

2014-11-14 Thread Johan Wevers
On 13-11-2014 23:23, Robert J. Hansen wrote: I mean no offense, but this seems like a really bad idea. Putting it on CD-ROM might be a pretty cool idea, but USB is just ... scary. There exist USB sticks with a write-protection jumper (I have 2 so I'm sure). If those cannot be found, use a SD

My Conclusions

2014-11-14 Thread da...@gbenet.com
Hi All, After spending 62 hours on what I thought would be a simple task namely to get a fully functioning gnupg mirror on my 64 bit Linux system - I realise this is an impossible task to do. In the past I've ended up creating a new set of certificates - but this time round I thought that I

Re: gpg4usb: Portable GUI for GnuPG

2014-11-14 Thread flapflap
Johan Wevers wrote: On 13-11-2014 23:23, Robert J. Hansen wrote: I mean no offense, but this seems like a really bad idea. Putting it on CD-ROM might be a pretty cool idea, but USB is just ... scary. There exist USB sticks with a write-protection jumper (I have 2 so I'm sure). If those

Re: GnuPG 2.1.0 Merging secret key

2014-11-14 Thread Mustrum
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 I was wondering about merging secret keys. Le 14 novembre 2014 08:58:45 CET, Werner Koch w...@gnupg.org a écrit : On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 21:00, must...@mustrum.net said: I'm wondering : what is the planned usage for that feature ? --try-secret-keys

Re: My Conclusions

2014-11-14 Thread Nicholas Cole
David, I'm sorry you are having problems, but I think this is just nonsense. Of course people move keys between machines all the time. I have done it myself often. I don't think that anyone deserves that level of abuse -- certainly not someone who has put years of work into a program that is an

Why the software is crap

2014-11-14 Thread da...@gbenet.com
Hello All, I even tried exporting my private and public key from the command line and then tried importing. The same error message as before. I have checked on the internet - most of the suggestions are crap - the authors have never ever tried to do what they suggest others to do. If they had

Re: My Conclusions

2014-11-14 Thread da...@gbenet.com
On 14/11/14 11:34, Nicholas Cole wrote: David, I'm sorry you are having problems, but I think this is just nonsense. Of course people move keys between machines all the time. I have done it myself often. I don't think that anyone deserves that level of abuse -- certainly not someone who

Re: Why the software is crap

2014-11-14 Thread Martin Behrendt
Am 14.11.2014 um 12:41 schrieb da...@gbenet.com: Hello All, I even tried exporting my private and public key from the command line and then tried importing. The same error message as before. I have checked on the internet - most of the suggestions are crap - the authors have never ever

Re: Why the software is crap

2014-11-14 Thread da...@gbenet.com
On 14/11/14 11:55, Martin Behrendt wrote: Am 14.11.2014 um 12:41 schrieb da...@gbenet.com: Hello All, I even tried exporting my private and public key from the command line and then tried importing. The same error message as before. I have checked on the internet - most of the

Re: Why the software is crap

2014-11-14 Thread Tristan Santore
On 14/11/14 13:24, da...@gbenet.com wrote: On 14/11/14 11:55, Martin Behrendt wrote: Am 14.11.2014 um 12:41 schrieb da...@gbenet.com: Hello All, I even tried exporting my private and public key from the command line and then tried importing. The same error message as before. I have checked

Re: Why the software is crap

2014-11-14 Thread NdK
Il 14/11/2014 12:41, da...@gbenet.com ha scritto: I usually just lurk, but that's too much... I even tried exporting my private and public key from the command line and then tried importing. The same error message as before. I have checked on the internet - most of the suggestions are crap -

Re: My Conclusions

2014-11-14 Thread Werner Koch
On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 12:34, nicholas.c...@gmail.com said: I'm sorry you are having problems, but I think this is just nonsense. Of course people move keys between machines all the time. I have done Right. And you may even copy it from one OS to an entirely different one. The files are fully

Re: Why the software is crap

2014-11-14 Thread Samir Nassar
David, It might not be clear, but many of us have easily and simply migrated our .gnupg directories from computer to computer. I've even deleted my .gnupg directory and restored it from backups. I've intentionally messed up my private key and restored my private key to working status from

Re: My Conclusions

2014-11-14 Thread Nicole Faerber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Oh please, I am using gnupg with the same keys on at least five machines with no issue. I simply copied the .gnupg directory, end of story. Cheers nicole Am 14.11.2014 um 12:45 schrieb da...@gbenet.com: On 14/11/14 11:34, Nicholas Cole wrote:

Re: My Conclusions

2014-11-14 Thread Jason Antony
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2014-11-14 22:45, da...@gbenet.com wrote: I have done everything correctly - and my conclusions are still the same NO ONE HAS EVER SUCCESSFULLY MADE A MIRROR COPY OF THEIR .GNUPG AND HAD A FULLY 100 PER CENT WORKING SIGNING AND ENCRYPTION

Re: Why the software is crap

2014-11-14 Thread NdK
Il 14/11/2014 13:24, da...@gbenet.com ha scritto: I have cooled. You can export your private key - you can export your public key. You can import your private key you can import your public key. In 20 years I have always had the same problem - the same error message and have each time created

Re: My Conclusions

2014-11-14 Thread Johan Wevers
On 14-11-2014 12:45, da...@gbenet.com wrote: I have done everything correctly Apparently not. Or maybe the files are corrupted? Do they still work on the original computer? - and my conclusions are still the same NO ONE HAS EVER SUCCESSFULLY MADE A MIRROR COPY OF THEIR .GNUPG AND HAD A FULLY

Re: gpg4usb: Portable GUI for GnuPG

2014-11-14 Thread Johan Wevers
On 14-11-2014 12:16, flapflap wrote: if you refer to the Lock switch of SD memory cards, then please note that this Lock switch is only evaluated in OS software and no physical/electrical protection of the flash IC. [...] USB sticks with real physical (i.e. electrically routed to the

Re: GnuPG 2.1.0: --refresh-keys regression

2014-11-14 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 11/12/2014 10:34 AM, Werner Koch wrote: On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 23:49, ara...@aixah.de said: One of the changes introduced with GnuPG 2.1 -- namely, using dirmngr for key retrieval -- has caused some problems for me. First of all, I'm Thanks

Re: Why the software is crap

2014-11-14 Thread Johan Wevers
On 14-11-2014 13:24, da...@gbenet.com wrote: I have cooled. You can export your private key - you can export your public key. I've never done that, except when I imported my old pgp 2.x keys in GnuPG a long time ago (sometime when GnuPG became really usable on windows, with 1.0.4 or so).

Re: Fermi estimates

2014-11-14 Thread Philip Jackson
On 14/11/14 03:36, Robert J. Hansen wrote: Whoops! so 10**30 years. The universe is about 10 billion years old, or 10**13 years, so ... our brute-force key cracker takes 10**17 times longer than the age of the universe in order to brute-force a 128-bit key. 10 billion is 10**10, so it

Re: Fermi estimates

2014-11-14 Thread Robert J. Hansen
Thanks for that (and the previous) It makes the brain hurt but raises a few questions in my mind. The real purpose of a Fermi estimate isn't to give you solid answers: it's to give you an appreciation of the problem. If it does that, it's done its job. (Also, a listmember named Ineiev

Re: Why the software is crap

2014-11-14 Thread Gabriel Niebler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Dear David, dear fellow GnuPG users, this conversation made me curious, so I tried to do it myself. Here's what I did on my work laptop, just now, five minutes ago (in my home dir): $ rm -rf .gnupg $ scp -r

Re: Why the software is crap

2014-11-14 Thread Robert J. Hansen
No one. No one. No one knows how to do this simple task. (a) delete random_seed (b) copy your .gnupg directory over I don't see the problem. I've done this at least fifty different times in the last year as I've stood up virtual machines. If you'd like a copy of the Python script I use to do

Re: Fermi estimates

2014-11-14 Thread Johan Wevers
On 14-11-2014 16:01, Philip Jackson wrote: Does anything prevent the key breaker getting lucky and cracking it first try? No. It's just extremely unlikely. It seems to me that all discussions on key breaking with their very large numbers always assume that the last try is THE ONE. Nu,

Re: Help needed

2014-11-14 Thread Jason Antony
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2014-11-14 09:33, da...@gbenet.com wrote: But I get the following error when signing my mail: Key 0xAAd8C47D not found or not valid. The (sub-)key might have expired. The key is visible in Enigmail Kgpg Kleopatra GPA I'm not able to edit my

Re: gpg4usb: Portable GUI for GnuPG

2014-11-14 Thread vedaal
On 11/13/2014 at 5:23 PM, Robert J. Hansen r...@sixdemonbag.org wrote: Putting it on CD-ROM might be a pretty cool idea = It's already been done by UPR. https://www.privacy-cd.org/en It uses Ubuntu 12.04 with GnuPG and pre-7.2 Truecrypt already installed. (open source roll-your-own

Re: Help needed

2014-11-14 Thread da...@gbenet.com
On 14/11/14 15:28, Jason Antony wrote: On 2014-11-14 09:33, da...@gbenet.com wrote: But I get the following error when signing my mail: Key 0xAAd8C47D not found or not valid. The (sub-)key might have expired. The key is visible in Enigmail Kgpg Kleopatra GPA I'm not able to edit my key I

Re: Why the software is crap

2014-11-14 Thread da...@gbenet.com
On 14/11/14 11:47, NdK wrote: Il 14/11/2014 12:41, da...@gbenet.com ha scritto: I usually just lurk, but that's too much... I even tried exporting my private and public key from the command line and then tried importing. The same error message as before. I have checked on the internet

Re: My Conclusions

2014-11-14 Thread da...@gbenet.com
On 14/11/14 12:15, Jason Antony wrote: On 2014-11-14 22:45, da...@gbenet.com wrote: I have done everything correctly - and my conclusions are still the same NO ONE HAS EVER SUCCESSFULLY MADE A MIRROR COPY OF THEIR .GNUPG AND HAD A FULLY 100 PER CENT WORKING SIGNING AND ENCRYPTION PROGRAMME

Re: Why the software is crap

2014-11-14 Thread da...@gbenet.com
On 14/11/14 12:37, Samir Nassar wrote: David, It might not be clear, but many of us have easily and simply migrated our .gnupg directories from computer to computer. I've even deleted my .gnupg directory and restored it from backups. I've intentionally messed up my private key and

Re: Why the software is crap

2014-11-14 Thread da...@gbenet.com
On 14/11/14 12:41, Tristan Santore wrote: On 14/11/14 13:24, da...@gbenet.com wrote: On 14/11/14 11:55, Martin Behrendt wrote: Am 14.11.2014 um 12:41 schrieb da...@gbenet.com: Hello All, I even tried exporting my private and public key from the command line and then tried importing. The

Re: My Conclusions

2014-11-14 Thread da...@gbenet.com
On 14/11/14 12:46, Werner Koch wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 12:34, nicholas.c...@gmail.com said: I'm sorry you are having problems, but I think this is just nonsense. Of course people move keys between machines all the time. I have done Right. And you may even copy it from one OS to an

Re: My Conclusions

2014-11-14 Thread da...@gbenet.com
On 14/11/14 13:14, Johan Wevers wrote: On 14-11-2014 12:45, da...@gbenet.com wrote: I have done everything correctly Apparently not. Or maybe the files are corrupted? Do they still work on the original computer? - and my conclusions are still the same NO ONE HAS EVER SUCCESSFULLY MADE

Re: Why the software is crap

2014-11-14 Thread da...@gbenet.com
On 14/11/14 13:11, NdK wrote: Il 14/11/2014 13:24, da...@gbenet.com ha scritto: I have cooled. You can export your private key - you can export your public key. You can import your private key you can import your public key. In 20 years I have always had the same problem - the same error

Re: Why the software is crap

2014-11-14 Thread da...@gbenet.com
On 14/11/14 13:31, Johan Wevers wrote: On 14-11-2014 13:24, da...@gbenet.com wrote: I have cooled. You can export your private key - you can export your public key. I've never done that, except when I imported my old pgp 2.x keys in GnuPG a long time ago (sometime when GnuPG became

Re: Why the software is crap

2014-11-14 Thread da...@gbenet.com
On 14/11/14 13:38, Gabriel Niebler wrote: Dear David, dear fellow GnuPG users, this conversation made me curious, so I tried to do it myself. Here's what I did on my work laptop, just now, five minutes ago (in my home dir): $ rm -rf .gnupg $ scp -r

Re: My Conclusions

2014-11-14 Thread Nicholas Cole
David, I've read most of your emails about this, and I don't see any description of the command you have entered or the error you are getting. Trying to diagnose it doesn't work error reports is a little like trying to type blind: you might get it right, but you'll probably just frustrate anyone

Re: My Conclusions

2014-11-14 Thread da...@gbenet.com
On 14/11/14 11:56, Nicole Faerber wrote: Oh please, I am using gnupg with the same keys on at least five machines with no issue. I simply copied the .gnupg directory, end of story. Cheers nicole Am 14.11.2014 um 12:45 schrieb da...@gbenet.com: On 14/11/14 11:34, Nicholas Cole

Re: Why the software is crap

2014-11-14 Thread Gabriel Niebler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Dear David, On 14. November 2014 18:30:19 MEZ, da...@gbenet.com da...@gbenet.com wrote: On 14/11/14 13:38, Gabriel Niebler wrote: (...) (...) maybe you can walk us through exactly what you did and we'll see if we can't figure out what the

Re: My Conclusions

2014-11-14 Thread Charles Spitzer
Speaking as someone who has worked in a computer support organization for over 40 years, I must say you make it extremely hard for someone to help you. You have been asked to provide a list of commands and their output numerous times. You have been provided with some command lines to run, with

Re: Help needed

2014-11-14 Thread Johannes Zarl
On Friday 14 November 2014 17:05:12 da...@gbenet.com wrote: david@laptop-1:~$ sudo pkg install pinentry-gtk2 [sudo] password for david: sudo: pkg: command not found david@laptop-1:~$ sudo apt-get install pinentry-gtk2 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state

Re: Why the software is crap

2014-11-14 Thread NdK
Il 14/11/2014 18:24, da...@gbenet.com ha scritto: I have a clean install of 64 bit LXD - all programmes are working 100 per cent. My keys get imported perfectly - every programme including Enigmail knows they are there. But when I try to sign or sign and encrypt I get the error referred

Re: Why the software is crap

2014-11-14 Thread Jay Sulzberger
On Fri, 14 Nov 2014, da...@gbenet.com wrote: Hello All, I even tried exporting my private and public key from the command line and then tried importing. The same error message as before. I have checked on the internet - most of the suggestions are crap - the authors have never ever tried to

Re: Why the software is crap

2014-11-14 Thread Jay Sulzberger
On Fri, 14 Nov 2014, NdK ndk.cla...@gmail.com wrote: Il 14/11/2014 13:24, da...@gbenet.com ha scritto: I have cooled. You can export your private key - you can export your public key. You can import your private key you can import your public key. In 20 years I have always had the same

Re: My Conclusions

2014-11-14 Thread Jason Antony
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2014-11-15 04:13, da...@gbenet.com wrote: Another pointless answer - no practical data - so there's no validity in what you say You are squandering the goodwill of those trying to help you with such responses, of which you have sent many

Re: Why the software is crap

2014-11-14 Thread Heinz Diehl
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Re: Why the software is crap

2014-11-14 Thread Mick Crane
Something is strange, I don't know much about this stuff but it seems important to you to have encryption working. It is so easy these days to install an OS automagically I would, in your case, make a fresh installation on some other machine and do what it is you want to do to prove a point.

Re: Why the software is crap

2014-11-14 Thread Michael A. Yetto
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Re: Why the software is crap

2014-11-14 Thread Tristan Santore
On 15/11/14 00:11, Michael A. Yetto wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 23:28:49 +0100 Heinz Diehl htd...@fritha.org wrote: ___ /| /| | | ||__|| | Please don't |

Re: Why the software is crap

2014-11-14 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Heinz Diehl wrote: ||__|| | Please don't | / O O\__ feed | / \ the troll | Best forcibly un-subscribe da...@gbenet.com. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Linux Unix C Sys Eng