Re: Keyserver spam example

2010-06-13 Thread Sonja Michelle Lina Thomas
> Interestingly enough, the first email I read this morning had a link to > this: > > http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/06/12/2339209/Google-Tells-Congress-It-Disclosed-Wi-Fi-Sniffing > > And that is just the tip of the ice burg. > > -- > Jerry OMG!! Google is stealing and archiving pictures of m

Re: Keyserver spam example

2010-06-13 Thread Jerry
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 07:58:19 -0500 Sonja Michelle Lina Thomas articulated: > > I would not trust Google with your data, far less mine. They have > > all ready been accused of illegally pilfering through user data and > > mining for user wireless info

Re: Keyserver spam example

2010-06-12 Thread MFPA
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi On Saturday 12 June 2010 at 12:37:08 PM, in , Jerry wrote: > I would not trust Google with your data, far less mine. The problem is that you never know if your contact will forward things to a google account... - -- Best regards MFPA

Re: Keyserver spam example

2010-06-12 Thread Jean-David Beyer
Jerry wrote: On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 06:22:47 -0500 Sonja Michelle Lina Thomas articulated: I use gmail for my SMTP needs. I have accounts on a couple of unix machines, yahoo, gmail, aim, my business hosted via godaddy and I choose gmail as the default SMTP server for all of them. Works like a ch

Re: Keyserver spam example

2010-06-12 Thread Jerry
On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 08:39:00 -0400 Jean-David Beyer articulated: > Yes, I did. They will not accept anything from my MTA even when I use > the smarthost feature. I can use either their web site server (that I > detest) or Firefox, but they will not allow sendmail even with > smarthost. Please

Re: Keyserver spam example

2010-06-12 Thread Sonja Michelle Lina Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > I would not trust Google with your data, far less mine. They have all > ready been accused of illegally pilfering through user data and mining > for user wireless information. I avoid them like the plague whenever > possible. Pffft, they can't get t

Re: Keyserver spam example

2010-06-12 Thread Jerry
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 06:22:47 -0500 Sonja Michelle Lina Thomas articulated: > I use gmail for my SMTP needs. I have accounts on a couple of unix > machines, yahoo, gmail, aim, my business hosted via godaddy and I > choose gmail as the default SMTP se

Re: Keyserver spam example

2010-06-12 Thread Sonja Michelle Lina Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I use gmail for my SMTP needs. I have accounts on a couple of unix machines, yahoo, gmail, aim, my business hosted via godaddy and I choose gmail as the default SMTP server for all of them. Works like a charm. http://lifehacker.com/66/how-to-use-g

Re: Keyserver spam example

2010-06-12 Thread Jean-David Beyer
MFPA wrote: The Spamhaus PBL might very well list you. 76.185.38.113 is listed in the PBL Mailservers using this blocklist would probably block mail from you. Of course, even Spamhaus's own website says the PBL is not a blacklist and that you can remove your IP address from their list i

Re: Keyserver spam example

2010-06-11 Thread MFPA
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi On Friday 11 June 2010 at 2:34:44 PM, in , Mark H. Wood wrote: > If there is such an RFC, it's rubbish; I think there is no such RFC, just an assertion from a messaging industry lobbying group that it's the "best" practice to block mail from

Re: Keyserver spam example

2010-06-11 Thread MFPA
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi On Friday 11 June 2010 at 8:00:09 PM, in , Jerry wrote: > On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:18:05 -0500 John Clizbe > articulated: >> Mark H. Wood wrote: > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at >> 05:57:50PM +0200, Joke de Buhr wrote: >> You do not >> sacrifice legi

Re: Keyserver spam example

2010-06-11 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:18:05 -0500 John Clizbe articulated: > Mark H. Wood wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 05:57:50PM +0200, Joke de Buhr wrote: > >> You do not sacrifice legitimate incoming mail because there is an > >> RFC that clearly states mailservers do not operate from dynamic IP > >>

Re: Keyserver spam example

2010-06-11 Thread MFPA
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi On Thursday 10 June 2010 at 4:53:43 PM, in , Jameson Rollins wrote: > On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:32:05 -0400, Daniel Kahn Gillmor > wrote: >> And i should probably add that it is indeed an infinitesimal drop in the >> bucket compared to the other

Re: Keyserver spam example

2010-06-11 Thread John Clizbe
Mark H. Wood wrote: > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 05:57:50PM +0200, Joke de Buhr wrote: >> You do not sacrifice legitimate incoming mail because there is an RFC that >> clearly states mailservers do not operate from dynamic IP addresses. >> Therefore >> they can not be considered valid. > > If ther

Re: Keyserver spam example

2010-06-11 Thread MFPA
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi On Thursday 10 June 2010 at 4:39:46 PM, in , Hauke Laging wrote: > But that is the wrong argument. The correct argument is > about the key server share of spam in a world in which > nearly everyone has a public key. Of course, in that > world

Re: Keyserver spam example

2010-06-11 Thread Mark H. Wood
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 05:57:50PM +0200, Joke de Buhr wrote: > You do not sacrifice legitimate incoming mail because there is an RFC that > clearly states mailservers do not operate from dynamic IP addresses. > Therefore > they can not be considered valid. If there is such an RFC, it's rubbish

Re: Keyserver spam example

2010-06-11 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:15:56 +0200 Werner Koch articulated: > On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 02:16, expires2...@ymail.com said: > > > delete them if they don't. Or one message to everybody with a > > customised subject line for each. Alternatively, those of us who are > > That is a good idea. I was think

Re: Keyserver spam example

2010-06-11 Thread Werner Koch
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 02:16, expires2...@ymail.com said: > delete them if they don't. Or one message to everybody with a > customised subject line for each. Alternatively, those of us who are That is a good idea. I was thinking of bisecting the mailing list to make sure that test mails receive the

Re: Keyserver spam example

2010-06-10 Thread Robert J. Hansen
On 6/10/2010 8:16 PM, MFPA wrote: > Whenever I post to this list these days I get one of their > auto-replies, and they always spoof the from address to whatever I had > in the "to" field of my message to the list. [lots of discussion deleted] I think it's safe to say the list moderators are now

Re: Keyserver spam example

2010-06-10 Thread MFPA
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi On Thursday 10 June 2010 at 6:04:37 PM, in , Hauke Laging wrote: > Am Donnerstag 10 Juni 2010 18:39:25 schrieb Jameson > Rollins: >> Speaking of spam, I'm getting more spam from some sort of automated >> ticketing system that seems to be subsc

Re: Keyserver spam example

2010-06-10 Thread Peter Lebbing
On -10/01/37 20:59, Joke de Buhr wrote: > You do not sacrifice legitimate incoming mail because there is an RFC that > clearly states mailservers do not operate from dynamic IP addresses. > Therefore > they can not be considered valid. Which RFC would this be? I could not find the word "dynami

Re: Keyserver spam example

2010-06-10 Thread Hauke Laging
Am Donnerstag 10 Juni 2010 18:39:25 schrieb Jameson Rollins: > Speaking of spam, I'm getting more spam from some sort of automated > ticketing system that seems to be subscribed to this list that I ever > have from a keyserver. The mail seems to come from: > > secure.mpcustomer.com > > and it of

Re: Keyserver spam example

2010-06-10 Thread Jameson Rollins
Speaking of spam, I'm getting more spam from some sort of automated ticketing system that seems to be subscribed to this list that I ever have from a keyserver. The mail seems to come from: secure.mpcustomer.com and it often sets the From: to be from someone else. This is totally uncool. Is th

Re: Keyserver spam example

2010-06-10 Thread MFPA
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi On Thursday 10 June 2010 at 4:57:50 PM, in , Joke de Buhr wrote: > One of the addresses of my key is totally unprotected > against spam. Nothing is blocked or scanned there. And > it doesn't get any spam at all. Fair enough. > As far as I

[OT] spam avoidance via IP-based filtering at the MTA [was: Re: Keyserver spam example]

2010-06-10 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 06/10/2010 11:57 AM, Joke de Buhr wrote: > You do not sacrifice legitimate incoming mail because there is an RFC that > clearly states mailservers do not operate from dynamic IP addresses. > Therefore > they can not be considered valid. Please cite this RFC. All IP addresses are "dynamic" i

Re: Keyserver spam example

2010-06-10 Thread Jameson Rollins
On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:32:05 -0400, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > And i should probably add that it is indeed an infinitesimal drop in the > bucket compared to the other spam i receive; i'm not concerned about it. Not to mention that the bother of a couple of extra spams is completely dwarfed by

Re: Keyserver spam example

2010-06-10 Thread Joke de Buhr
On Thursday 10 June 2010 17:29:18 MFPA wrote: > Hi > > > On Thursday 10 June 2010 at 3:35:34 PM, in > > , Joke de Buhr wrote: > > I've never gotten any keyserver related spam so far and > > my public keys with a valid mail address were published > > year ago. > > In order to *know* you have nev

Re: Keyserver spam example

2010-06-10 Thread Hauke Laging
Am Donnerstag 10 Juni 2010 16:00:18 schrieb David Shaw: > Periodically there is a discussion on this list about whether having your > key on a keyserver will result in more spam. My feeling on this is that > you might get more spam, but it's a drop in the bucket compared to the > usual onslaug

Re: Keyserver spam example

2010-06-10 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
Hi Joke-- On 06/10/2010 11:22 AM, Joke de Buhr wrote: > I never said this particular spam message was not caused by someone scanning > the keyserver. I only stated it isn't that common and never happened to me. > > The chance someone harvesting your email address through keyserver scanning > is

Re: Keyserver spam example

2010-06-10 Thread MFPA
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi On Thursday 10 June 2010 at 3:35:34 PM, in , Joke de Buhr wrote: > I've never gotten any keyserver related spam so far and > my public keys with a valid mail address were published > year ago. In order to *know* you have never received any ke

Re: Keyserver spam example

2010-06-10 Thread Joke de Buhr
I never said this particular spam message was not caused by someone scanning the keyserver. I only stated it isn't that common and never happened to me. The chance someone harvesting your email address through keyserver scanning is less common than harvesting archives of mailing lists. Keyserve

Re: Keyserver spam example

2010-06-10 Thread David Shaw
> On Thursday 10 June 2010 16:00:18 David Shaw wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> Periodically there is a discussion on this list about whether having your >> key on a keyserver will result in more spam. My feeling on this is that >> you might get more spam, but it's a drop in the bucket compared to th

Re: Keyserver spam example

2010-06-10 Thread Joke de Buhr
I've never gotten any keyserver related spam so far and my public keys with a valid mail address were published year ago. I think it's more likely you will get spam because you are posting to a mailing list which does have a html archive (liks this one). If you want to get rid of most spam, jus

Keyserver spam example

2010-06-10 Thread David Shaw
Hi everyone, Periodically there is a discussion on this list about whether having your key on a keyserver will result in more spam. My feeling on this is that you might get more spam, but it's a drop in the bucket compared to the usual onslaught that streams in daily. That being said, I just