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2006-09-11 Thread Sergii Stoian
Hi, Adam.On 9/5/06, Adam Fedor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you also put in a svn log and/or ChangeLog of what you did?It'shelpful for other people working on the project.I usually theChangeLog as the svn log entry so they are the same.Once I bring PC with new features into some useable shape I'll

Re: Advertisement for gnustep

2006-09-11 Thread Dennis Leeuw
Adam Fedor wrote: On Sep 9, 2006, at 11:49 PM, Gregory John Casamento wrote: Adam, Is it an ad for new developers or an ad urging end-users to try GNUstep? It's more of an add to get more help, but I think getting more users would provide the same benefit. Maybe the best way to promote

Re: Advertisement for gnustep

2006-09-11 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 10.09.2006 um 22:00 schrieb Philippe C.D. Robert: [...] to focus on the desktop paradigm for X11 based Unices. Good for advertisement as long as you leave out the emphasis on X11 ... there's a Cairo backend already and an X11 requirement would be a showstopper for many Mac developers

Re: question to backend/gui guru...

2006-09-11 Thread Fred Kiefer
I would agree with Adams answer, go for a dummy graphics backend. Perhaps we could even rewrite the back makefile to have gsc usable as such? As I understand it you will need a window, or rather event server based on SDL. Put that into back and perhaps somebody may later add code to make this a

Re: Advertisement for gnustep

2006-09-11 Thread Philippe C.D. Robert
On 10.09.2006, at 22:43, Helge Hess wrote: On Sep 10, 2006, at 22:00, Philippe C.D. Robert wrote: Well, for the advertisement. What would you say, _why_ is GNUstep good for that? :-) Eg Ruby tries to get into that market by allowing the user to contruct flashy web 2.0 apps in a few minutes

Re: question to backend/gui guru...

2006-09-11 Thread Philippe C.D. Robert
On 11.09.2006, at 20:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I take some time to look inside NSApplication code. This class highly depends on graphic display. It seems to me that it would be easier to write a SDLApplication class with a partial NS-like interface, and then use the only AppKit classes

Re: Advertisement for gnustep

2006-09-11 Thread Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf
Am 11.09.2006 um 05:00 schrieb Adam Fedor: On Sep 9, 2006, at 11:49 PM, Gregory John Casamento wrote: Adam, Is it an ad for new developers or an ad urging end-users to try GNUstep? It's more of an add to get more help, but I think getting more users would provide the same benefit.

Re: Advertisement for gnustep

2006-09-11 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 11 Sep 2006, at 20:07, Philippe C.D. Robert wrote: On 10.09.2006, at 22:43, Helge Hess wrote: On Sep 10, 2006, at 22:00, Philippe C.D. Robert wrote: Well, for the advertisement. What would you say, _why_ is GNUstep good for that? :-) Eg Ruby tries to get into that market by allowing

Re: Advertisement for gnustep

2006-09-11 Thread Helge Hess
On Sep 11, 2006, at 21:07, Philippe C.D. Robert wrote: Well, maybe was the phrasing slightly suboptimal, but not the message behind it ... ;-) Besides, we don't have a desktop (yet) and never will because some project members don't want GNUstep to become a desktop in the first place. I

Re: Debug as default...

2006-09-11 Thread Riccardo
Hey, On Sunday, September 10, 2006, at 07:40 AM, Gregory John Casamento wrote: I'm mentioning this again in order to start a discussion on the pros/cons of doing this. since I find that lately gnustep is sluggish enough by itself and swaps wildly while loading... I'd vote against that. A

Re: Advertisement for gnustep

2006-09-11 Thread Nicola Pero
Well, maybe was the phrasing slightly suboptimal, but not the message behind it ... ;-) Besides, we don't have a desktop (yet) and never will because some project members don't want GNUstep to become a desktop in the first place. This is legitimate, but I am convinced this has negative

Re: Advertisement for gnustep

2006-09-11 Thread Philippe C.D. Robert
On 11.09.2006, at 22:06, Helge Hess wrote: On Sep 11, 2006, at 21:07, Philippe C.D. Robert wrote: Well, maybe was the phrasing slightly suboptimal, but not the message behind it ... ;-) Besides, we don't have a desktop (yet) and never will because some project members don't want GNUstep to

Re: Debug as default...

2006-09-11 Thread Gregory John Casamento
Riccardo, Could you be more specific about what architectures, how much memory, what operating system you are seeing the sluggishness on? If there are performance bottlenecks in GNUstep, this information would be extremely helpful in rooting out any problems which might exist. On both of my