Fwd: [GSoC Mentors Announce] Google Summer of Code 2013

2013-02-25 Thread Fred Kiefer
ounce] Google Summer of Code 2013 Datum: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 11:02:32 -0800 Von: Carol Smith Antwort an: gsoc-mentors-announce+own...@googlegroups.com An: gsoc-mentors-annou...@googlegroups.com Hi GSoC mentors and org admins, We've announced that we're doing Google Summer of Code 2013 [1]. Yay

Re: [GSoC Mentors Announce] Google Summer of Code 2013

2013-02-25 Thread Ivan Vučica
f we can find suitable students. > > Fred > > Original message ---- > Betreff: [GSoC Mentors Announce] Google Summer of Code 2013 > Datum: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 11:02:32 -0800 > Von: Carol Smith > Antwort an: gsoc-mentors-announce+own...@googlegroups.com > An: g

Re: [GSoC Mentors Announce] Google Summer of Code 2013

2013-02-26 Thread Luboš Doležel
On 25.2.2013 11:17, Ivan Vučica wrote: I think it might also be a better year for me to participate as well. I'd start preparing this week by working on: - an OpenGL and OpenGL ES wrapper that would be usable by not just AppKit apps (a thin wrapper around GLX that uses CGL API) - by moving Quart

Re: [GSoC Mentors Announce] Google Summer of Code 2013

2013-02-26 Thread Maxthon Chan
About reimplementing UIKit, you can actually map UIKit to AppKit. Those code are largely similar. p.s. Is there any tool that converts Xcode project into Makefile? 在 2013-2-26,下午4:21,Luboš Doležel 写道: > On 25.2.2013 11:17, Ivan Vučica wrote: >> I think it might also be a better year for me to

Re: [GSoC Mentors Announce] Google Summer of Code 2013

2013-02-26 Thread David Chisnall
On 26 Feb 2013, at 08:21, Luboš Doležel wrote: > may I just ask what the intention behind implementing UIKit is? > Having fun / better abstraction somewhere / iOS apps on Android? > > For the latter to be actually usable, we'd still need some sort of Android > backend. I've seen Cairo working o

Re: [GSoC Mentors Announce] Google Summer of Code 2013

2013-02-26 Thread Ivan Vučica
On 26. 2. 2013., at 12:52, David Chisnall wrote: > On 26 Feb 2013, at 08:21, Luboš Doležel wrote: > >> may I just ask what the intention behind implementing UIKit is? >> Having fun / better abstraction somewhere / iOS apps on Android? >> >> For the latter to be actually usable, we'd still need

Re: [GSoC Mentors Announce] Google Summer of Code 2013

2013-02-26 Thread Luboš Doležel
On 02/26/2013 01:35 PM, Ivan Vučica wrote: But, I think offering a mobile GUI for use with a mobile window manager on a mobile device is not a bad idea either. Building a project that can equally well run under an existing environment (e.g. rendering into an Android GL ES context and routing Andr

Re: [GSoC Mentors Announce] Google Summer of Code 2013

2013-02-26 Thread Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf
Am 26.02.2013 um 21:20 schrieb Luboš Doležel: > On 02/26/2013 01:35 PM, Ivan Vučica wrote: >> But, I think offering a mobile GUI for use with a mobile window >> manager on a mobile device is not a bad idea either. Building a >> project that can equally well run under an existing environment (e.g.

Re: [GSoC Mentors Announce] Google Summer of Code 2013

2013-02-26 Thread Ivan Vučica
On 26. 2. 2013., at 22:34, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf wrote: > I doubt this would be possible since Linux (and so Android) uses a different > binary format. More likely is that you "develop once, deploy everywhere", > e.g. you just recompile your app for Android using GNUstep. So this is more a

Re: [GSoC Mentors Announce] Google Summer of Code 2013

2013-04-20 Thread Ivan Vučica
Hello all, In the end, I only played with compiling Base for Android since writing the previous mail. But, here's some bad news -- that happen to be good for my contributions to GNUstep :-) It looks like I'll be free from the part-time job that I had last summer. So, any frustration that Fred may

Re: [GSoC Mentors Announce] Google Summer of Code 2013

2013-04-22 Thread Ivan Vučica
Ping! Student registrations have started. Any prospective mentors? (Crossposting this to discuss-gnustep.) On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Ivan Vučica wrote: > Hello all, > > In the end, I only played with compiling Base for Android since writing > the previous mail. But, here's some bad news

Re: [GSoC Mentors Announce] Google Summer of Code 2013

2013-04-22 Thread Jordan Schidlowsky
I would really love if Ivan can move forward with some QuartzCore development! I've been really looking forward to Ivan's improvements in these areas. Full disclosure: we heavily use GNUStep to cross-compile iOS applications and games to Android... We've shipped about 20 games that use GNUStep

Re: [GSoC Mentors Announce] Google Summer of Code 2013

2013-04-22 Thread Lundberg, Johannes
This looks really interesting. Getting Chameleon UIKit to work with GNUstep's core graphics and core animation would be very nice! For the Viking project I'm not sure how much of UIKit/AppKit we will use and how much we'll build our own UI. Most likely, we will start out with existing UI classes

Re: [GSoC Mentors Announce] Google Summer of Code 2013

2013-04-23 Thread David Chisnall
On 22 Apr 2013, at 21:43, Ivan Vučica wrote: > Ping! Student registrations have started. Any prospective mentors? I've registered as a mentor. I'd also be most interested in the back end being refactored to support using Opal. David -- Sent from my STANTEC-ZEBRA _

Re: [GSoC Mentors Announce] Google Summer of Code 2013

2013-04-24 Thread Ivan Vučica
First, thanks everyone for support and ideas! On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 12:02 AM, Fred Kiefer wrote: > Hi Ivan > > I had long ago decided that I wont mentor for GSoC this year, but your > mail led me to rethink that position. Your proposal is very convincing and > would be highly beneficial for GN

Re: [GSoC Mentors Announce] Google Summer of Code 2013

2013-04-24 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 22.04.2013 um 22:43 schrieb Ivan Vučica: > Ping! Student registrations have started. Any prospective mentors? > > (Crossposting this to discuss-gnustep.) > > On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Ivan Vučica wrote: > Hello all, > > In the end, I only played with compiling Base for Android since

Re: [GSoC Mentors Announce] Google Summer of Code 2013

2013-04-24 Thread Fred Kiefer
I thought again and I may be able to stand in as a backup mentor for your project. Not the main mentor, joining in later this summer to help out. I will try to register as a mentor, but you will still need an official mentor. Apart for the usual candidates as Richard and Greg I would like to su

Re: [GSoC Mentors Announce] Google Summer of Code 2013

2013-04-24 Thread Ivan Vučica
Thank you! All assistance will be greatly appreciated. On 24. 4. 2013., at 23:56, Fred Kiefer wrote: > I thought again and I may be able to stand in as a backup mentor for your > project. Not the main mentor, joining in later this summer to help out. I > will try to register as a mentor, but

Re: [GSoC Mentors Announce] Google Summer of Code 2013

2013-04-25 Thread Lundberg, Johannes
While we're discussing lower level graphics API I would like to ask one more thing. What would it take to run GNUstep on DirectFB instead of X? Is this possible at this time? Johannes Lundberg BRILLIANTSERVICE CO., LTD. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Ivan V

Re: [GSoC Mentors Announce] Google Summer of Code 2013

2013-04-26 Thread David Chisnall
On 26 Apr 2013, at 07:41, "Lundberg, Johannes" wrote: > While we're discussing lower level graphics API I would like to ask one more > thing. > > What would it take to run GNUstep on DirectFB instead of X? Is this possible > at this time? Someone did create a DirectFB back end, but it was ne

Re: [GSoC Mentors Announce] Google Summer of Code 2013

2013-04-26 Thread Ivan Vučica
On 26. 4. 2013., at 09:13, David Chisnall wrote: > On 26 Apr 2013, at 07:41, "Lundberg, Johannes" > wrote: > >> While we're discussing lower level graphics API I would like to ask one more >> thing. >> >> What would it take to run GNUstep on DirectFB instead of X? Is this possible >> at thi

Re: [GSoC Mentors Announce] Google Summer of Code 2013

2013-04-26 Thread Lundberg, Johannes
Do you mean that if rendering is offloaded to the CPU the performance gained from moving from X to DirectFB is not that big? For our head mount display all events will be generated from things like gestures and voice control so we don't really need X for input events. Johannes Lundberg BRILLIANTS

Re: [GSoC Mentors Announce] Google Summer of Code 2013

2013-04-26 Thread David Chisnall
On 26 Apr 2013, at 10:32, "Lundberg, Johannes" wrote: > Do you mean that if rendering is offloaded to the CPU the performance gained > from moving from X to DirectFB is not that big? DirectFB is a Linux (not-really portable) API that was designed to give direct access to the framebuffer for u

Re: [GSoC Mentors Announce] Google Summer of Code 2013

2013-04-26 Thread Ivan Vučica
I think David refers to the need to cache as much drawables into OpenGL/OpenGL ES textures as possible and then composite them on screen using OpenGL/OpenGL ES. Putting pixels and updating them using 2D drawing commands ("put a rectangle here", "copy this rectangle into this rectangle") stops pa

Re: [GSoC Mentors Announce] Google Summer of Code 2013

2013-04-26 Thread Lundberg, Johannes
We're basing our system on FreeBSD and there seems to be a DirectFB port, however I don't know how complete it is. For our purpose, as long as it runs on BSD, it's OK. Johannes Lundberg BRILLIANTSERVICE CO., LTD. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Ivan Vučica w

Re: [GSoC Mentors Announce] Google Summer of Code 2013

2013-04-28 Thread Fred Kiefer
On 26.04.2013 09:13, David Chisnall wrote: On 26 Apr 2013, at 07:41, "Lundberg, Johannes" wrote: While we're discussing lower level graphics API I would like to ask one more thing. What would it take to run GNUstep on DirectFB instead of X? Is this possible at this time? Someone did create

Re: [GSoC Mentors Announce] Google Summer of Code 2013

2013-04-29 Thread Eric Wasylishen
Hi Fred, Ivan, I'd be interested in mentoring a backend/Opal related project, or at least offering guidance if we have a mentor already. I guess I have to register on the GSoC site? Eric On 2013-04-24, at 5:56 PM, Fred Kiefer wrote: > I thought again and I may be able to stand in as a backup

Re: [GSoC Mentors Announce] Google Summer of Code 2013

2013-04-29 Thread Ivan Vučica
I think so! Just to note, David has already registered as a mentor; I don't have any specific idea how to work things out in this situation, but what I do have is appreciation for all the mentoring and help during the planning and coding phase that I can -- and apparently will -- get :-) I did