[GOAL] Re: Need for a new beginning - Assessing Publishers and Journals Scholarly Practices - Reloaded

2015-10-03 Thread Dana Roth
I not sure I understand Eric's 'unaddressed problem'. Web of Science has a very rigorous selection policy and Jeffrey Beall has an informative listing of 'suspect' OA journals. Shouldn't these resources provide prospective authors with sufficient information to make an informed decision on whe

[GOAL] Re: Need for a new beginning - Assessing Publishers and Journals Scholarly Practices - Reloaded

2015-10-03 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux
Dear I also appreciate such a discussion. There are some fundamentals problem with the current situation in scientific edition. For me, even though there are numerous free journasl, most of the prominents ones are still owned by too few large companies that makes too much money. This is sim

[GOAL] Re: Another, totally free, electronic journal from Turkey

2015-10-03 Thread Dana Roth
Thanks for the info ... you need to work with Chemical Abstracts and DOAJ to see that your journals receive proper attention. Dana L. Roth Caltech 1-32 1200 E. California Blvd. Pasadena, CA 91125 626-395-6423 fax 626-792-7540 dzr...@library.caltech.edu http://library.caltech.edu/collections/chem

[GOAL] Re: Need for a new beginning - Assessing Publishers and Journals Scholarly Practices - Reloaded

2015-10-03 Thread Heather Morrison
hi Eric, It is good to see a discussion of this topic. Some preliminary thoughts: The journal-level peer review process involved in the SSHRC Aid to Scholarly Journals is a type of model I suggest others look at. The primary questions have nothing to do with metrics, but rather are qualitative,

[GOAL] Need for a new beginning - Assessing Publishers and Journals Scholarly Practices - Reloaded

2015-10-03 Thread Éric Archambault
Hi List Hi list My previous efforts rapidly went off-topic, so I’m making a second effort to reload the questions to the list with the hope of receiving more input on this important topic. Back to our still largely unaddressed problem, I am re-inviting people to contribute ideas, focussing awa

[GOAL] Re: Need for a new beginning

2015-10-03 Thread Éric Archambault
Hi List I’d like to steer this debate away from individuals and bring it back to the questions that need to be addressed in a fairly urgent manner. Though I personally don’t agree with many if not most positions that Jeffrey has taken over the years on different subjects, and many list members

[GOAL] Re: Need for a new beginning

2015-10-03 Thread Heather Morrison
Although I often disagree with Beall and share the concerns of OA colleagues about his list, two comments: It is appropriate to ask about business interests. When Elsevier comments on open access policy, it is important to know that their perspective is likely influenced by financial motives. T

[GOAL] Re: Need for a new beginning

2015-10-03 Thread Stevan Harnad
Just to add that I too agree completely with Chris and Jan. Éric (perhaps out of legal or commercial caution) responded to Beall in a polite deadpan style, but Beall's posting cannot be described as anything less that outrageous. A tendentious public query about undeclared interests coupled with a

[GOAL] Re: Need for a new beginning

2015-10-03 Thread Jan Velterop
All I want to say is that I agree wholeheartedly with Chris. He definitely isn't the only one to be outraged. Johannes (Jan) J M Velterop Sent from Jan Velterop's iPhone. Please excuse for brevity and typos. > On 3 Oct 2015, at 11:32, Chris Zielinski wrote: > > I have no personal involvemen

[GOAL] Re: Need for a new beginning

2015-10-03 Thread Chris Zielinski
I have no personal involvement in this issue (other than being aghast when SciELO appeared on the List of Predatory Journals recently - it now seems to have been removed, after multiple protests) and don't know any of the participants personally, but I can't be the only one who finds this post from