Re: Stepping down as Moderator of American Scientist Open Access Forum

2011-11-28 Thread Bernard Lang
Dear Stevan Do you mean I may be allowed to post in the future, or do you intend to leave specific instructions regarding me ?:-) Well, thanks a lot for the work done. Amicalement Bernard PS You may choose not to post this one either :-) * Stevan Harnad amscifo...@gmail.com, le

Re: The affordability problem vs. the accessibility problem

2011-11-05 Thread Bernard Lang
the publisher's digital exclusivity on a given edition of the book. I am fully aware that this is a somewhat different issue. Cordialement Bernard Lang - End forwarded message - * Stevan Harnad amscifo...@gmail.com, le 04-11-11, a écrit: On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Dana Roth dzr

Re: The First and Foremost PostGutenberg Distinction

2010-11-17 Thread Bernard Lang
problem is that everyone is now working on the orphan work concept without questionning it ... and it is nonsense. amitiés Bernard Amitiés. Hélène Bosc - Original Message - From: Bernard Lang bernard.l...@inria.fr To: american-scientist-open-access-fo...@listserver.sigmaxi.org

Re: The First and Foremost PostGutenberg Distinction

2010-11-16 Thread Bernard Lang
these ideas. OA is more than simple and cost-less access; it implies the same kinds of freedoms that a GPL ensures for software. Much of OA thinking was inspired by the free software movement. Jean-Claude Guédon Le mardi 16 novembre 2010 à 13:21 +0100, Bernard Lang a écrit

Re: The First and Foremost PostGutenberg Distinction

2010-11-16 Thread Bernard Lang
Is there a distinction between papers that are just openly accessible, and papers that can be freely reproduced on other sites, or other media in your classifications. I am trying o identifi the concept of an open work. If it is simply something that I can access, that qualifies the whole of the

Re: The First and Foremost PostGutenberg Distinction

2010-11-16 Thread Bernard Lang
, a red herring. We need registration. And I am sure it can be free. Bernard Jean-Claude Le mardi 16 novembre 2010 à 15:52 +0100, Bernard Lang a écrit : Thank you Jean-Claude But when you speak of the green and gold road, and their form of publishing, does it imply

can you present google scholar in French

2009-03-06 Thread Bernard Lang
will be off-line for some time. Thank you for helping. Cordialement Bernard Lang -- Après la bulle Internet, la bulle financière ... Et bientôt la bulle des brevets http://www.strategie.gouv.fr/revue/IMG/pdf/article_HS7RL2.pdf http://www.huffingtonpost.com

Do we have a Spanish ennemy ?

2009-01-29 Thread Bernard Lang
. But given the ideological leanings of this lawyer, and the rest of the document, I fear the worst. This is relevent to this community. I will not comment the rest ... just so that I have a calm evening. I hope to have soon a pointer to an official version. Bernard Lang PS This reminds me

orphan works

2008-10-03 Thread Bernard Lang
Hi, I do not know whether the mail I am replying to went to the whole list, but it is written like it was intended to. * Stevan Harnad amscifo...@gmail.com note le 03-10-08 : I have several times returned the postings of Bernard Lang to him as not relevant to the American Scientist Open Access

Re: Nihil obstat + orphan works

2008-10-02 Thread Bernard Lang
, there are very different proposals in Europe that may reveal dangerous. In a nutshell, orphan works would be managed by collective management organizations mostly controled by publishers. Where that would lead us is anyone's guess. Bernard Lang * Stevan Harnad amscifo...@gmail.com note le 02-10-08

Fwd: Article sur la diffusion des droits africains via Internet et les logiciels libres

2008-05-22 Thread Bernard Lang
=enlr=hs=5Jtfilter=0 There seems to be missing links somewhere. Maybe this should be better advertised, including the paper mentionned in the forwarded mail below. Cordialement Bernard Lang - Forwarded message from amavi.tago...@aero.bombardier.com - List-Post: goal@eprints.org List

Re: European Commission nominates (another) high-level advisory group on research and science

2008-04-22 Thread Bernard Lang
on the writing of the report : this was evidenced during a discussion with the chair of the commission, witnessed by journalists. Let us wish them well. Let us hope first they do a good job. Bernard Lang * N. Miradon nmira...@yahoo.fr note le 22-04-08 : On 11 April 2008 the European Commission announced

Re: Mandates, coercion and vegetables

2008-01-28 Thread Bernard Lang
Hi, fear and pride, carrots and sticks, and lots of variants ... Well, that is certainly one way of looking at improving social behaviour. There is another essential component : information and education. People need to be tols in simple way why this policy is better, and not in

Re: Author Publication Charge Debate

2004-02-12 Thread Bernard Lang
subscription). Thank you Bernard Lang

Re: Be prepared for commercial misuse of the term open access

2003-10-31 Thread Bernard Lang
Welcome to the club What do you think happens with the much more widely used words open source, even though there is a precise definition available on the web. The promoters of open source tried to trademark the expression to prevent that. But they were denied the trademark (even though this

Re: The archival status of archived papers

2002-12-24 Thread Bernard Lang
On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 04:55:03PM -0600, Bob Parks wrote: Bernard Lang writes: right ... why not erase all historical mistakes from the history books ... so that we can learn only how thing should go, and not how they can go wrong. I was not speaking of books nor peer reviewed

Re: The archival status of archived papers

2002-12-09 Thread Bernard Lang
right ... why not erase all historical mistakes from the history books ... so that we can learn only how thing should go, and not how they can go wrong. Bernard On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 02:57:02PM -0500, David Goodman wrote: If they disappear others may well make the same mistake. But if

Re: Book on future of STM publishers

2002-07-19 Thread Bernard Lang
universities may be silly. but you have to be joking, there are thousand of more effective ways to make $400 than fighting to be published. Bernard On Fri, Jul 19, 2002 at 10:42:11AM +0200, M. Meier wrote: As many of you wonder about the outdated media in which the dissertation is published,

Re: Interview with Derk Haank, CEO, Elsevier

2002-04-03 Thread Bernard Lang
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 02:27:05PM -0500, Albert Henderson wrote: The 'profit motive' argument might have some standing if the private research universities that dominate sponsored research did not sport profits double those reported by Elsevier and other

Re: BOAI : faisons tomber les fausses-idées

2002-03-10 Thread Bernard Lang
constante alors qu'elle évolue à grande vitesse, ou à organisation sociale constante ... c'est un peu triste. Sont-ils bien représentatifs de cette dynamique vivante que doit être la science ? Hèlène, tu peux renvoyer cela sur la liste biblio-fr, si tu veux. Amicalement Bernard Lang On Tue

Re: BOAI : faisons tomber les fausses-idées (fwd)

2002-03-10 Thread Bernard Lang
elle a, disons, des ambiguités intéressantes. Amicalement Bernard On Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 01:25:17PM +, Stevan Harnad wrote: L'observation de Bernard Lang a propos des bijoux passes par les paires me rapelle d'abord la facetie sur le contresens de la part de Mme Schwarz concernant la

Re: Copyleft article in New Scientist

2002-02-18 Thread Bernard Lang
On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 11:00:27PM +, Stevan Harnad wrote: On Thu, 14 Feb 2002, Chris Zielinski wrote: Stevan Harnad wrote: [. . .] Apart from wanting to be properly credited for its authorship (i.e., protected from plagiarism) and to be ensured that the text is not altered or

Re: Copyleft article in New Scientist

2002-02-12 Thread Bernard Lang
I do agree that toll-free access is the only essential issue, at this time, and that mixing it with free software or open-content licences can only muddle the issues ... at least where public discussions are concerned, and current public action. Considering alternative licences is however an

Re: Clarification of parasitism and copyright

2002-02-07 Thread Bernard Lang
you also have symbions ... and that is even more positive bernard On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 01:19:35PM +, Stevan Harnad wrote: On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Chris Rusbridge wrote: Stevan, remember the difference between parasites and epiphytes. Parasites kill their hosts. That does not seem to be

Kindred Issues in Kindred Fora: Open Source Software

2002-01-06 Thread Bernard Lang
this: An item for your next FOS Newsletter. On this particular issue, our narrower concerns about Open Access to the peer-reviewed literature and the wider concerns about open sourcing and public domain patenting of Bernard Lang as well as the worries about University privatization ambitions

Re: The True Cost of the Essentials (Implementing Peer Review)

2001-12-16 Thread Bernard Lang
, Stevan Harnad wrote: On Sat, 15 Dec 2001, Bernard Lang wrote: We can publish first, and review or copy edit later, in whatever order is convenient, or never if no one wishes to do it. We can publicly archive first (let's reserve the term publish for something more than this mere vanity

Re: The True Cost of the Essentials (Implementing Peer Review)

2001-12-15 Thread Bernard Lang
On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 02:19:23PM -0500, Arthur Smith wrote: [...] This means that the only remaining per-article real costs are (1) dissemination on-paper, (2) any on-line enhancements by the publisher (special mark-up, linking), and (3) peer review. By (2) I assume

Re: The Ultimate Danger of SkyReading/Writing

2001-12-04 Thread Bernard Lang
. decoupled from the publishing. The technology is already operational. And if publishers are such reliable people... I do wish to have some books reimbursed ... they were published, heavily advertised, and are crap. Sorry no time for gentle words... Bernard Lang On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 06:30

Re: Copyright: Form, Content, and Prepublication Incarnations

2001-11-19 Thread Bernard Lang
not read :-) [ though I did read several of Stevan's papers ... ] Bernard Lang -- Non aux Brevets Logiciels - No to Software Patents SIGNEZhttp://petition.eurolinux.org/SIGN bernard.l...@inria.fr ,_ /\o\o/Tel +33 1 3963 5644 http

Re: FOS Newsletter Excerpts

2001-07-12 Thread Bernard Lang
I support this request. Please answer the questions. Bernard Lang PS I noticed that many people on this list seem genuinely afraid of hurting the feelings of publishers. Stevan gave me that impression in our latest exchange, to which I stopped replying because I had the impression

Re: PostGutenberg Copyrights and Wrongs for Give-Away Research

2001-06-29 Thread Bernard Lang
. PERIOD Bernard Lang On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 04:20:39PM -0400, Albert Henderson wrote: on Thu, 28 Jun 2001 Stevan Harnad har...@cogprints.soton.ac.uk wrote: Unfortunately, Albert Henderson's suggestions are so repetitive and predictable that they can be responded to by number

Re: Other Forms of Publishing?

2001-06-15 Thread Bernard Lang
this is not directly related to scientific publishing, I am beginning to wonder ... Cordialement Bernard Lang -- Non aux Brevets Logiciels - No to Software Patents SIGNEZhttp://petition.eurolinux.org/SIGN bernard.l...@inria.fr ,_ /\o\o/Tel +33 1 3963