OA advocates maintain that the formative definition of open access agreed at
the meeting that led to the Budapest Open Access Initiative means that only
papers with a CC BY licence attached can be described as open access. And
yet millions of papers in open repositories are not available with a CC
But don't you think the most important and the most urgent is free access ?
Le 23/01/17 à 10:41, Richard Poynder a écrit :
OA advocates maintain that the formative definition of open access
agreed at the meeting that led to the Budapest Open Access Initiative
means that only papers with a CC
] How much of the content in open repositories is able to meet
the definition of open access?
OA advocates maintain that the formative definition of open access agreed at
the meeting that led to the Budapest Open Access Initiative means that only
papers with a CC BY licence attached can be describ
On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 4:41 AM, Richard Poynder wrote:
> OA advocates maintain that the formative definition of open access agreed
> at the meeting that led to the Budapest Open Access Initiative means that
> only papers with a CC BY licence attached can be described as open access.
> And yet mi
Personally, yes I do Paul. Indeed, I also agree with Heather Morrison that
insisting on the use of CC BY is a strategic error on the part of the OA
movement, and I hope to publish a somewhat longer piece arguing as much in
the near future.
Richard Poynder
On 23 Jan 2017 12:21, "Paul THIRION" w
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To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
Subject: Re: [GOAL] How much of the content in open repositories is able to
meet the definition of open access?
Some open access advocates do equate OA with the CC-BY license, but not all of
us. My perspective is that pushing for ubiqui
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Downes, Stephen
Envoyé : 23 janvier 2017 09:46
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the definition of open access?
> Some open access advocates do e
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Marc Couture
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[mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] De la part de Downes, Stephen
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Hi all,
Just to be clear, my position on the basic issue here.
I certainly qualify as an OA advocate, and as such :
- I don't equate OA with CC BY (or any CC license); in fact, I'm a little bit
tired of discussions about what "being OA" means.
- I work to help increase the proportion of gratis
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the definition of open
From: Couture Marc
Date: 2017-01-23 10:54 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: "Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)"
Subject: Re: [GOAL] How much of the content in open repositories is able to
meet the definition of open access?
Stephen Downes wrote :
“From the perspective of a person
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Éric Archambault
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Marc has a go
ision.
Marc Couture
De : goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] De la part de
Éric Archambault
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the definition of open
Hi Marc,
You say:
"I certainly qualify as an OA advocate, and as such:
I don’t equate OA with CC BY (or any CC license); in fact, I’m a little bit
tired of discussions about what 'being OA' means."
I hear you, but I think the key point here is that OA advocates (perhaps
not you, but OA advocate
after taxes profit per hour (the vast majority
> of these profits are from advertising obviously). Is this a commercial use?
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> *From:* goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org
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I rather like the ‘How open is it?’ tool that approaches this as a spectrum:
http://sparcopen.org/our-work/howopenisit/
I may be quite ‘hard line’, but I acknowledge that by moving along the spectrum
a paper, monograph, piece of data (or whatever) becomes more open - and more
open is better th
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Subject: Re: [GOAL] How much of the content in open repositories is able to
meet the definition of open access?
I rather like the ‘How open is it?’ tool that approaches this as a spectrum:
http://sparcopen.org/our-work/
suggest the "how open is it" spectrum is a useful exercise that has
> served a purpose for some but not a canon for all to adhere to.
>
> best,
>
> Heather Morrison
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> ---- Original message ----
> From: David Prosser
> Date: 2017-01-23 2:16
anuary 2017 at 7:55 pm
To: "Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)"
Subject: Re: [GOAL] How much of the content in open repositories is able to
meet the definition of open access?
With all due respect to the people who created and shared the "how open is it"
spect
ng)?
best,
Heather Morrison
Original message
From: Fiona Bradley
Date: 2017-01-24 6:43 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: "Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)"
Subject: Re: [GOAL] How much of the content in open repositories is able to
meet the definition of open access?
Hi a
cessor of AmSci)"
Subject: Re: [GOAL] How much of the content in open repositories is able to
meet the definition of open access?
There are many activities where CC BY or a more liberal licence (CC 0) is the
only way that modern science can be done.
Many knowledge-based projects in science ,
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Heather Morrison <
heather.morri...@uottawa.ca> wrote:
> hi Peter,
>
> If many knowledge projects are advancing our knowledge through the means
> that you have described, surely there are others than the one you started
> yesterday? Can you provide a list or liter
what Elsevier is currently doing)?
best,
Heather Morrison
Original message
From: Fiona Bradley
Date: 2017-01-24 6:43 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: "Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)"
Subject: Re: [GOAL] How much of the content in open repositories is able to
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mailto:goal@eprints.org>>
Date: Tuesday, 24 January 2017 at 11:59 am
To: "Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)"
mailto:goal@eprints.org>>
Subject: Re: [GOAL] How much of the content in open repositories is able to
meet the definition of open a
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Date: 2017-01-23 2:16 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: "Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)"
mailto:goal@eprints.org>>
Subject: Re: [GOAL] How much of the content in open repositories is able to
meet the definition of open access?
I rather like the ‘How open is it?’ tool that app
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Heather Morrison <
heather.morri...@uottawa.ca> wrote:
> Another critique that may be more relevant to this argument: I challenge
> PMR's contention that it is necessary to limit this kind of research to
> works that are licensed CC-BY. If you gather data from a gr
hi Peter,
On 2017-01-24, at 10:10 AM, Peter Murray-Rust
mailto:pm...@cam.ac.uk>>
wrote:
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Heather Morrison
mailto:heather.morri...@uottawa.ca>> wrote:
Another critique that may be more relevant to this argument: I challenge PMR's
contention that it is necessar
The statement:
"Copyright is only invoked if you want to actually copy an original table
for inclusion in a publication"
is completely wrong.
The question of whether it is legal to point to another work depends on the
jurisdiction. It is Ancillary Copyright
see
http://www.communia-association.org
Heather Morrison
Envoyé : 24 janvier 2017 09:27
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Objet : Re: [GOAL] How much of the content in open repositories is able to meet
the definition of open access?
hi Fiona,
It seems we have been thinking along the same lines - I have a similar proposal
Expanding copyright to include linking (ancillary copyright) is, in my opinion,
a threat to scholarship and research and should be fought.
Based on the references that you have provided below, I gather linking is now
illegal only in Germany and Spain and only under very limited conditions that
l Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
Objet : Re: [GOAL] How much of the content in open repositories is able to meet
the definition of open access?
hi Fiona,
It seems we have been thinking along the same lines - I have a similar proposal
that tries to address the same issue.
An author wishin
Good evening,
1. Considering how low the rate of compliance is in the Green OA landscape, it
seems very ambitious, to say the least, to hope that any mandate with the
additional constraint of licensing properly the deposits will reach a
detectable level at all. Let's prove first that we are abl
Oppenheim
Original message
>From : pm...@cam.ac.uk
Date : 24/01/2017 - 15:10 (GMT)
To : goal@eprints.org
Subject : Re: [GOAL] How much of the content in open repositories is able to
meet the definition of open access?
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Heather Morrison
wrote:
Another critiqu
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Subject: Re: [GOAL] How much of the content in open repositories is able to
meet the definition of open access?
To do automated TDM, one needs to copy the entire table, irrespective of which
bits are subsequently analysed, and so there is a potential breach of ©.
Whilst this MAY be acceptabl
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