I share with members of this list, some information provided by Abel
Packer, Coordinator of the SciELO program. I copy him in this message
.It is correct that a few journals included in SciELO collections charge
APC´s. But only very few of the 1.147 journals included in SciELO from
scholarly and
.pdf).
Marc Couture
De : goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] De la part de
Graham Triggs
Envoyé : 17 décembre 2013 16:18
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Objet : [GOAL] Re: Jeffrey Beall Needlessly Compromises Credibility of Beall's
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On 17 Dece
On 17 December 2013 16:32, Couture Marc wrote:
> This is a somewhat incomplete, if not flawed argument.
>
>
>
> 1. The prices mentioned by Graham are just two examples (out of 280
> current journals in SciELO Brazil). One reads further in the same blog
> post : “In the case of SciELO Brazil, the
Citing a blog post
(http://blog.scielo.org/en/2013/09/18/how-much-does-it-cost-to-publish-in-open-access
), Graham Triggs wrote:
>
> publishing in SciELO journals ranges from US $660 in one subsidized journal,
> to
> US $900 for foreign authors in another journal.
>
> US $900 puts it in a simil
-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of
> Jean-Claude Guédon
> Sent: 16 December 2013 20:29
> To: goal@eprints.org
> Subject: [GOAL] Re: Jeffrey Beall Needlessly Compromises Credibility of
> Beall's List
>
> Le lundi 16 décembre 2013 à 14:34 +
On 16 December 2013 20:28, Jean-Claude Guédon <
jean.claude.gue...@umontreal.ca> wrote:
> Who introduced "hybrid journals"? "who introduced "delayed open access"
> - an oxymoron if there ever was one? What about Elsevier's "universal
> access"? etc. etc.
>
Admittedly, "universal access" is somew
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Tel: +44 (0)1903 871286
Email: sa...@morris-assocs.demon.co.uk
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Of Jean-Claude Guédon
Sent: 16 December 2013 20:29
To: goal@eprints.org
Subject: [GOAL] Re: Jeffrey Beall
> Who introduced "hybrid journals"?
I'm not 100% sure, but that may have been me! It seemed like a good idea at
the time...
David
On 16 Dec 2013, at 20:28, Jean-Claude Guédon wrote:
> Le lundi 16 décembre 2013 à 14:34 +, Graham Triggs a écrit :
>>
>> On 14 December 2013 20:53, Jean-Cl
Le lundi 16 décembre 2013 à 14:34 +, Graham Triggs a écrit :
> On 14 December 2013 20:53, Jean-Claude Guédon
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Which terms have been introduced by the publishing industry? The
> majority of the terms that I see regularly were introduced - or at
> least claimed to have been -
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Graham Triggs wrote:
> On 14 December 2013 20:53, Jean-Claude Guédon <
> jean.claude.gue...@umontreal.ca> wrote:
>
>> Regarding an earlier post of your that seemed to complain that OA
>> advocates are using too narrow and too strict a definition of open access,
>>
On 14 December 2013 20:53, Jean-Claude Guédon <
jean.claude.gue...@umontreal.ca> wrote:
> Regarding an earlier post of your that seemed to complain that OA
> advocates are using too narrow and too strict a definition of open access,
> you might consider that the publishing industry, for its part,
alf
Of Jean-Claude Guédon
Sent: 14 December 2013 20:53
To: goal@eprints.org
Subject: [GOAL] Re: Jeffrey Beall Needlessly Compromises Credibility of
Beall's List
Sally,
Re-use and text mining are not the same thing. If I distribute my own
articles in my own classroom, this is re-use and it r
rris
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> Tel: +44 (0)1903 871286
> Email: sa...@morris-assocs.demon.co.uk
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>
>
>
>
> __
> From: goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints
On 13 December 2013 13:14, Sally Morris wrote:
> The few responses to my original posting have all focused on whether the
> 'credo' of the BBB declarations is or is not fundamental to the underlying
> concept of OA. I find it interesting that no one has commented at all on
> the two main points
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Sally Morris <
sa...@morris-assocs.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> I don't deny that re-use (e.g. text mining) is a valuable attribute of
> OA for some scholars; interestingly, however, it is rarely if ever
> mentioned in surveys which ask scholars for their own unprompted
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> Tel: +44 (0)1903 871286
> Email: sa...@morris-assocs.demon.co.uk
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>
> --
> *From:* goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Penny Andrews
> *Sent:* 12 December 2013
Sally Morris wrote :
>
I find it interesting that no one has commented at all on the two main points I
was trying to make (perhaps not clearly enough):
>
>1)The focus of OA seems to be, to a considerable extent, the destruction
>of the publishing industry: note the hostile language of, for
Sussex, UK BN13 3UU
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> Email: sa...@morris-assocs.demon.co.uk
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>
> From: goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of
> Penny Andrews
> Sent: 12 December 2013 17:04
> To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
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Subject: [GOAL] Re: Jeffrey Beall Needlessly Compromises Credibility of
Beall's List
Sally, f
Sally, for many scholars (who do currently exist, not just in the
future) textmining is their main research activity. Open licensing to do
that unimpeded isn't some theoretical paradise, it's what they need right
now to do their work.
On Thursday, December 12, 2013, Sally Morris wrote:
> I agree
n such a statement.
>>
>>
>>
>> Prof. Harnad and his lackeys are responding just as my article predicts.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeffrey Beall
>>
>>
>>
>> From: goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] O
Many thanks, Jeroen.
I am asking around about ways to take up Beall's list and make it fully
legitimate. It is a very useful list, but Beall's appears to have put
himself in an untenable situation now, either by excess cleverness, or
sheer awkwardness (no to say worse). Simply speaking, he has dis
al-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of Jean-Claude Guédon
Sent: maandag 9 december 2013 23:28
To: goal@eprints.org<mailto:goal@eprints.org>
Subject: [GOAL] Re: Jeffrey Beall Needlessly Compromises Credibility of Beall's
List
One should never underestimate Jeffrey Beall's sense of humour...
dag 9 december 2013 23:28
To: goal@eprints.org
Subject: [GOAL] Re: Jeffrey Beall Needlessly Compromises Credibility of Beall's
List
One should never underestimate Jeffrey Beall's sense of humour... [:-)] And we
all admire his capacity for predictions and categorizations.
This said, I would lov
I'll let more notorious OA advocates (named or unnamed in the article) point
out the many flaws and weaknesses in Beall's article (if they think it's worth
the effort).
What strikes me though is that it looks much more like an opinion piece than a
scholarly paper; the distinction is important,
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Subject: [GOAL] Re: Jeffrey Beall Needlessly Compromises Credibility of Beall's
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Wouter,
Hello, yes, I wrote the article, I stand by it, and I take responsibility for
it.
I would ask Prof. Harnad to clarify one thing in his email below
gt;
>
> Jeffrey Beall
>
>
>
>
> From: goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On
> Behalf Of Gerritsma, Wouter
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 2:14 PM
> To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
> Subject: [GOAL] Re: Jeffrey Beall
er
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 2:14 PM
> To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
> Subject: [GOAL] Re: Jeffrey Beall Needlessly Compromises Credibility
> of Beall's List
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear all.
>
>
>
> Has this article really b
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Beall, Jeffrey
wrote:
> I would ask Prof. Harnad to clarify one thing in his email below, namely
> this statement, "OA is all an anti-capitlist plot."
>
> This statement's appearance in quotation marks makes it look like I wrote
> it in the article. The fact is tha
ent.
>
> Prof. Harnad and his lackeys are responding just as my article predicts.
>
> Jeffrey Beall
>
> From: goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of
> Gerritsma, Wouter
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 2:14 PM
> To: Global Open Access
atement.
>
> Prof. Harnad and his lackeys are responding just as my article predicts.
>
> Jeffrey Beall
>
> From: goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of
> Gerritsma, Wouter
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 2:14 PM
> To: Global
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Objet : [GOAL] Re: Jeffrey Beall Needlessly Compromises Credibility of Beall's
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Wouter,
Hello, yes, I wrote the article, I stand by it, and I take responsibility for
it.
I would ask Prof. Harnad to clarify one thing in his email below, namely this
statement, &qu
g] On Behalf Of
Gerritsma, Wouter
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 2:14 PM
To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
Subject: [GOAL] Re: Jeffrey Beall Needlessly Compromises Credibility of Beall's
List
Dear all.
Has this article really been written by Jeffrey Beall?
He has been victim of a s
Interesting twist on a plot good enough to draw the attention of a
revived Monty Python...
Will the real Jeffrey Beall stand up?
And, as a question to the whole community, if you had written such a
paper, would you claim it? :-)
Jean-Claude Guédon
Le lundi 09 décembre 2013 à 21:14 +, Gerri
Dear all.
Has this article really been written by Jeffrey Beall?
He has been victim of a smear campaign before!
I don't see he has claimed this article on his blog http://scholarlyoa.com/ or
his tweet stream @Jeffrey_Beall (which actually functions as his RSS feed).
I really like to hear from t
WOW !
And we did praise that man...!
Terrible...
> Le 9 déc. 2013 à 16:12, Stevan Harnad a écrit :
>
> Beall, Jeffrey (2013) The Open-Access Movement is Not Really about Open
> Access. TripleC Communication, Capitalism & Critique Journal. 11(2): 589-597
> http://triplec.at/index.php/tripleC/ar
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