[GOAL] Re: Libre open access, copyright, patent law, and other intellectual property matters

2012-03-28 Thread Stevan Harnad
On 2012-03-27, at 10:39 PM, Wilhelmina Randtke wrote: So, what are the big OA search engines, anyway?... without a way to find content, that content may as well not exist. Most OA content (75%) does not exist (i.e., it is not OA). Till it is OA, there is no point creating big OA search

[GOAL] Re: Libre open access, copyright, patent law, and other intellectual property matters

2012-03-27 Thread Wilhelmina Randtke
[mailto:goal-bounces at eprints.org] *On Behalf Of *Couture Marc *Sent:* 25 March 2012 17:29 *To:* goal at eprints.org *Subject:* [GOAL] Re: Libre open access, copyright, patent law, and other intellectual property matters [Apologies for cross-posting] ** ** On March 23, 2012, Klaus Graf wrote

[GOAL] Re: Libre open access, copyright, patent law, and other intellectual property matters

2012-03-26 Thread Arthur Sale
Sale Tasmania, Australia From: goal-bounces at eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of Sally Morris Sent: Monday, 26 March 2012 7:17 AM To: 'Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)' Subject: [GOAL] Re: Libre open access, copyright, patent law, and other intellectual

[GOAL] Re: Libre open access, copyright, patent law, and other intellectual property matters

2012-03-26 Thread Rzepa Henry
this has screenshots of the BL charges. I entered into considerable correspondence and I think the conclusions was that it was too much trouble to work out what articles were open access so it was easier t charge for all of them. I have no idea where the money ended up. The BL did say

[GOAL] Re: Libre open access, copyright, patent law, and other intellectual property matters

2012-03-26 Thread pippa.sm...@gmail.com
...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of Couture Marc Sent: 25 March 2012 17:29 To: goal@eprints.org Subject: [GOAL] Re: Libre open access, copyright, patent law, and other intellectual property matters [Apologies for cross-posting]   On March 23, 2012, Klaus Graf wrote:   It's

[GOAL] Re: Libre open access, copyright, patent law, and other intellectual property matters

2012-03-26 Thread gingras . yves
Surlignage pippa.sm...@gmail.com pippa.sm...@gmail.com: As a comparator, I can get water free from rivers but I'm happy to pay someone to clean it up and pipe it to me. It seems to be a better comparison is between choosing free water from tap and pay for bottled water. :) Yves Gingras

[GOAL] Re: Libre open access, copyright, patent law, and other intellectual property matters

2012-03-25 Thread Couture Marc
[Apologies for cross-posting] On March 23, 2012, Klaus Graf wrote: It's illegal to hide CC-BY contributions behind a pawywall. quoting the following excerpt of the legal code: You may not impose any effective technological measures on the Work that restrict the ability of a

[GOAL] Re: Libre open access, copyright, patent law, and other intellectual property matters

2012-03-25 Thread Peter Murray-Rust
On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Couture Marc couture.marc at teluq.ca wrote: I agree that putting a CC-BY Work behind a paywall is almost certainly dishonest, if not fraudulent, because it makes sense only if you somehow hide the fact that the work is freely available elsewhere. Things are

[GOAL] Re: Libre open access, copyright, patent law, and other intellectual property matters

2012-03-25 Thread Sally Morris
(0)1903 871286 Email: sally at morris-assocs.demon.co.uk _ From: goal-bounces at eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of Couture Marc Sent: 25 March 2012 17:29 To: goal at eprints.org Subject: [GOAL] Re: Libre open access, copyright, patent law, and other intellectual

[GOAL] Re: Libre open access, copyright, patent law, and other intellectual property matters

2012-03-25 Thread Couture Marc
Sally Morris wrote : Playing devil's advocate: aren't people (arguably) paying for the service provided in gathering together the articles in which they might be interested in an easily accessible/searchable form? This makes sense if someone pays for a subscription to a service, like those

[GOAL] Re: Libre open access, copyright, patent law, and other intellectual property matters

2012-03-25 Thread Couture Marc
[Apologies for cross-posting]   On March 23, 2012, Klaus Graf wrote:   It's illegal to hide CC-BY contributions behind a pawywall.     quoting the following excerpt of the legal code:   You may not impose any effective technological measures on the Work that restrict the ability

[GOAL] Re: Libre open access, copyright, patent law, and other intellectual property matters

2012-03-25 Thread Peter Murray-Rust
On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Couture Marc couture.m...@teluq.ca wrote:   I agree that putting a CC-BY Work behind a paywall is almost certainly dishonest, if not fraudulent, because it makes sense only if you somehow hide the fact that the work is freely available

[GOAL] Re: Libre open access, copyright, patent law, and other intellectual property matters

2012-03-25 Thread Sally Morris
] Re: Libre open access, copyright, patent law, and other intellectual property matters [Apologies for cross-posting]   On March 23, 2012, Klaus Graf wrote:   It's illegal to hide CC-BY contributions behind a pawywall.     quoting the following excerpt of the legal code:   You may