Re: [Goanet]Mangloreans Catholics are Goans?

2003-08-30 Thread WILSON SOARES
Hello, I just like to budge in here as I always wondered, are Manglorians really Goans. Heard different stories of there being a huge fire in Goa so some families took off to Mangalore and settled there etc.etc. Now my question is, wherever Goans go they will always make sure they will call themsel

Re: [Goanet]RE: Who is a Goan?

2003-08-30 Thread Eugene Correia
Asley Tellis was a reporter with the Times of India in Bombay before be came to the US and joined Rand Corporation. I have his book on the nuclearization of India. it's a huge book. I am not sure if he's Goan or not. Eugene __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - F

[Goanet]+ Death of advocate Alvaro Revasco Costa e Moniz from Arpora, Bardez, Goa

2003-08-30 Thread C Fernandes
Advocate Alvaro Revasco Costa e Moniz from Arpora, Bardez, Goa passed away peacefully on Friday, 29th August at about 11.30 pm [IST]. Husband of Maria Lourdes, father of Savio and Sonia. The funeral details will be announced later. May his soul rest in Peace. posted by Cip Fernandes

[Goanet]Re: Two banyan trees on Sinquerim plateau?

2003-08-30 Thread gilbert
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Teotonio R. de Souza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I had read in a 16th century Portuguese shipping rutter that the Portuguese > pilots should know they are entering the Goa bay when they see "duas arvores > de gralha" (banyan trees). Hence, they must have been there

RE: [Goanet] Fluctuating Goans!!!

2003-08-30 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
Mangloreans Catholics are Goans? Wilson writes: I just like to budge in here as I always wondered, are Manglorians really Goans. Heard different stories of there being a huge fire in Goa so some families took off to Mangalore and settled there etc.etc. Now my question is, wherever Goans go they wi

Re: [Goanet]Goa's social indicators

2003-08-30 Thread Rui Collaco
I know those social indicators, Gilbert, and they are very good. But one must bear in mind that they were achieved over a period of 42 years. What else could one expect after 42 years? The rest of the world achieved the same and in many cases far more. What you don't mention is that Goa's indic

Re: [Goanet]+ Death of advocate Alvaro Revasco Costa e Moniz from Arpora, Bardez, Goa

2003-08-30 Thread Valmiki Faleiro
A good man has departed. For a practicing advocate and Notary, Alvaro Costa e Moniz's simplicity, unpretentiousness, even humility -- and, of course, the genuine smile that came from within -- touched. I humbly grieve the loss. Valmiki From: "C Fernandes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, Aug

[Goanet]Death of Alvaro Costa e Moniz

2003-08-30 Thread Goa11
Cip: I am very sorry to learn of Alvaro's death. I went to school at St. Joseph's High School in Arpora in 1964-1965 with him when Fr. Mendonca was the Prinicpal. Can you me more details? Thank you. Roland Travas [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Goanet-news]30 AUG 2003: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS

2003-08-30 Thread Joel D'Souza
GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS 30 Aug 2003 COLD-BLOODED MURDER OF LADY IN TIVIM: A 68-yr-old widow, Rukmini alias Kishori Narayan Parsenkar, was brutally murdered on Thursday (28 Aug) night at Canca-Tivim and the assailant made good with her gold ornaments. The lady lived in Muddawaddo, Canca-Tivim,

Re: [Goanet]NEWS: Pope to make key appointments

2003-08-30 Thread Miguel
Dear Netters, I do not know if the Rt.Rev.Dr.Raul Nicolau Gonsalves [ email [EMAIL PROTECTED] ],Archbishop of Goa & Daman and Patriarch of the East Indies[Macau Timor,Indonesia,etc], should retire now. He is just getting better. From long-winded,boring and irrelevent sermons that he preached till

Re: [Goanet]Portuguese nationality a colonial favour?

2003-08-30 Thread Miguel
Dear Netters, Has anyone set a title match of the Colaco clan versus the rest of Goa net ? Let's call in the cheer leaders!! ;)) Miguel P.S. I generally find only Bernado's postings reflective of a bigot.I hope his tribe on the Goanet does not increase.Rui and Paulo have been quite reasonable in

[Goanet]30 AUG 2003: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS

2003-08-30 Thread Joel D'Souza
GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS 30 Aug 2003 COLD-BLOODED MURDER OF LADY IN TIVIM: A 68-yr-old widow, Rukmini alias Kishori Narayan Parsenkar, was brutally murdered on Thursday (28 Aug) night at Canca-Tivim and the assailant made good with her gold ornaments. The lady lived in Muddawaddo, Canca-Tivim,

[Goanet]Re: Two banyan trees on Sinquerim plateau?

2003-08-30 Thread Teotonio R. de Souza
Dear Miguel For years I have been thinking of these banyan trees and wondering about the human neglect they have overcome! They seem to be spread over a large area. I shall be thankful if you could send me digitalized close-up photos before and after any action is taken. I was glad to read the addi

[Goanet]NEWS: Daman bridge collapse toll rises to 26

2003-08-30 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
Daman bridge collapse toll rises to 26 >From Indo-Asian News Service Ahmedabad, Aug 29 (IANS) The death toll in the bridge collapse at Daman rose to 26 Friday with the recovery of four more bodies, even as a shutdown observed in the town to mourn the dead turned violent. Residents of the town,

[Goanet]Re:Bhau

2003-08-30 Thread Miguel
Dear Goa netters, Looks like confusion confounded. If our dear friend Xac was born after 1961,did Bhausaheb Bandodkar grab a book from a kid? Unlikely. Which Bhausaheb is he referring to? I would rather not ask him.He is already confused about his age.Perhaps,Dr.N.Radhakrishnan,Jt Secretary to the

[Goanet]Mangalorean Catholics from Goa

2003-08-30 Thread Teotonio R. de Souza
In my *Medieval Goa* (New Delhi, Concept publishing co., 1979) I have provided documented information about Goan hindus as well as catholics migrating to Kanara (which included Mangalore). The Hindu migration seems to have preceded the Catholic migration. I have provided some explanations. Several

[Goanet]+ Death of advocate Alvaro Costa e Moniz from Arpora, Bardez, Goa

2003-08-30 Thread C Fernandes
ADV. ALVARO COSTA e MONIZ Beloved husband of Maria De Lourdes, Loving Father of Savio and Sonia. Brother/brother-in-law of Tilia/Alexandre, Carlos/late Esther, Fernando/Alice and Rui/Suzette. Uncle of Noel, Sandra, Renita, Rachel, John, Judith & Jeremy. Expired on 29/08/2003. Funeral will leave h

[Goanet]We all owe Yvonne Vaz big time

2003-08-30 Thread Cecil Pinto
Fred, please convey our gratitude to Ms. Vaz for that extremely comprehensive and well researched document on 'Careers & Courses'. I have forwarded it to a few parents I know, whose children are reaching that crucial age where they have to decide about their career plans. They have ALL expresse

[Goanet]Some Konkani proverbs about the Portuguese

2003-08-30 Thread Teotonio R. de Souza
http://www.goacom.com/culture/history/folklore.html Goans have retained the memory of the Portuguese ceremonials and pompous ways of behaviour. There is a current saying in Konkani: *kumpriment kori naka* (= don't fuss). There is also the proverb: *Chodd firangi bhas, haddank urta mas* (= Too many

[Goanet]Re: Two banyan trees on Sinquerim plateau?

2003-08-30 Thread gilbert
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Teotonio R. de Souza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Miguel > For years I have been thinking of these banyan trees and wondering about the > human neglect they have overcome! They seem to be spread over a large area. > I shall be thankful if you could send me digita

[Goanet]Flights to Goa

2003-08-30 Thread Bosco - Goanet Volunteer
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 13:18:22 -0500, "Melvyn Martins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" wrote: Could I have your list of travel agents who fly to Goa from the UK and USA. Thanks, Melvyn Martins KBR- RIO Kirkuk – Iraq World Goa Day - 20-August - www.goaday.com ##

[Goanet]CRIME IN GOA: 4-yr-old girl raped in Panjim city

2003-08-30 Thread Goa Desc
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[Goanet]Why Gulf Goans Prefer via Bombay to Direct Flights to Goa??

2003-08-30 Thread Joegoa
I am posting this message on Goanet hoping some one out there might be able to help with right info etc. Thanks/joeGoaUk Date:Sat, 30 Aug 2003 01:47:53 -0700 (PDT)From: "Antonio de" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | This :Re: [GOAN-NRI] Why Gulf Goans prefer Via Bombay to Direct Flights to GOA? I found t

Re: [Goanet]Is this where the Chief Minister of Goa dines?

2003-08-30 Thread Miguel
Rightly said Gabe. People from around Goa and the rest of India enjoy the food near Cine Alankar. I do not know what Tara was doing there.Havenot seen her writings since the Art College rape that wasn't ( a rape,molestation, buggering,anal ,oral,unnatural or any type of sex that the local press fan

[Goanet]Goan Folk Song for Rain

2003-08-30 Thread Cecil Pinto
Excerpts from "Tales and Tellers of Goa" by V.S. Sukthanker (1974 - Price Rs. 12.50) Published by Atelier Sukathanika --- Page 80 --- excerpt --- There are certain social and religious customs and beliefs among the Goan Christians, whose origins can be traced to their Hindu forefathers. Curiousl

Re: [Goanet]NEWS: Pope to make key appointments

2003-08-30 Thread President\(sgpiag\)
Once a persons retires on attaining the age of superannuation ( 75 year ) which the Archbishop of Goa and Daman has completed in June 2002, he ought to have relinquished his post and above all Vatican Council should have relieved him on appointing a well in advance chosen successor. The belief by C

Re: [Goanet]Re: GoaNet origins - no simple answers?

2003-08-30 Thread Miguel
Dear netters, That is as good as it gets. Herman could not have been playing 'solitaire 'on the net.Perhaps the original email he sent should be preserved next to the standard metre and standard kilogramme in the museum. That is for the record. Let us get on with the Goanet. Miguel - Original

Re: [Goanet]Goa's social indicators

2003-08-30 Thread Miguel
Dear Netters, From the text of the postings from Rui two things are clear: 1.He believes he is Portuguese( Absolutely nothing wrong in that: He was born a Portuguese national in Mocambique.He lives as a Portuguese national,citizen ,and most probably[he has not stated this in any of his postings th

[Goanet]5 HEALTH UPDATE:Hospicio Hospital, KTC canteens found to be unhygienic

2003-08-30 Thread Goa Desc
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[Goanet]Goa Telecom officer gets one year RI in corruption case

2003-08-30 Thread Goa Desc
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[Goanet]CRIME IN GOA:Cold-blooded murder of lady in Canca-Tivim

2003-08-30 Thread Goa Desc
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[Goanet]Re: [Goanet a colonial favour?

2003-08-30 Thread Miguel
Rightly said,Dr.Gilbert. Why should a person who grew up in Mocambique and now lives in Portugal,lecture us Goans in Goa about what the Indians from Delhi are doing to us. The wearer knows where the shoe pinches...why are the by-standers squealing in a pain that they obviously have never felt? Rui

Re: [Goanet]John Kilmartin Goa Enquiry, New York Times Article

2003-08-30 Thread Miguel
Dear Bosco, Are the Kilmartins looking for the Albuquerque house[replica of the palace of the Sultan of Zanzibar] at Anjuna,Goa? I will need some details of what was written on the York Times in Australia,at least the names of the 'two women' interviewed therein. 'Figueiredo' is very much a name f

Re: [Goanet]Paul Fernandes

2003-08-30 Thread Miguel
Flipper Bistro is at Tivai vaddo,near the New Empire Beach Resort.It wont be up till the shack licences are issued in October.Someone from around St.Anthony's chapel should be able to help get the good news to Gordon.Anyone on Calangute net? Miguel - Original Message - From: "Gordon Shepp

[Goanet]Erotic Folk Songs of Goa

2003-08-30 Thread Cecil Pinto
Excerpts from "Tales and Tellers of Goa" by V.S. Sukthanker (1974 - Price Rs. 12.50) Published by: Atelier Sukathanika excerpts -- Page 88 Due to their Westernised way of life, the code of social conduct of Goan Christians differs much from that of their Hindu neighbours. For instance

[Goanet]Re: Mangloreans Catholics are Goans?

2003-08-30 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
>Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 20:26:51 +0530=0D >From: Cecil Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [Goanet]Mangloreans Catholics are Goans?=0D >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Would appreciate if Gilbert Lawrence could give me some references for >further research on this topic of the

[Goanet]NEWS-DAMAN: Curfew relaxed after protest over police firing

2003-08-30 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
Curfew relaxed in Daman >From Indo-Asian News Service Ahmedabad, Aug 30 (IANS) Curfew was relaxed in most parts of Daman Saturday even as the grief-stricken town observed a shut-down for second consecutive day, this time to protest police firing that claimed two lives. The curfew imposed Friday

[Goanet]Death of Alvaro Costa e Moniz

2003-08-30 Thread Goa11
Hello: I read with sadness of Alvaro's death. I was his classmate at St. Joseph's in Arpora. Is there you or anyone else can give me details. Thank you. Roland Travas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EM

Re: [Goanet]5 HEALTH UPDATE:Hospicio Hospital, KTC canteens...

2003-08-30 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
On Sat, 30 Aug 2003, Goa Desc wrote: > -- > Hospicio, KTC canteens found to be unhygienic > -- > The canteen run within the premises of director of health services (DHS) > Hospic

[Goanet]From Vernon Rodrigues - Great Work !!!!

2003-08-30 Thread TABKF Raniworo-Radio
Phew!! Had to finally get myself into contributing my wee bit into this wonderful and interesting site that I have been monitoring since some months now. Though I have been just a silent spectator to the Views / Opinions / Articles sent in by the regular active netters , including the net-bashing

[Goanet]Paedophiles shifting focus to Goa, Kerala: report

2003-08-30 Thread vicki
Paedophiles shifting focus to Goa, Kerala: report >From Devika Sequeira DH News Service PANAJI, Aug 29 Tourism-related paedophilia is moving out of Thailand and looking for more vulnerable targets on the beaches of Goa and Kerala, a confidential report commissioned by the British government say

[Goanet]Call for all-party meet on film fest plan

2003-08-30 Thread shantaram naik
shantaram naik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SHANTARAM NAIKEx-M.P FORMER PRESIDENT OF GOA PCC H.No.2137,Near Swami Math, Gogol, Margao, Post Fatorda 403 602 Tel: 0832-2759555 E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 30th August,2003 A Meeting of All Political Parties On Internation Film Festival a Must For Securing Conti

[Goanet]Goan Welfare Society (Kenya) * June-Sept 2003 newsletter

2003-08-30 Thread sjpires
GOAN WELFARE SOCIETY Caring & Sharing in Unity P.O. BOX 10252, NAIROBI, 00100 July-September, 2003 Message from the Chairman, Q. Lopes Dear Members, Our wagon has started moving with, a busy schedule ahead of us. We recently had a successful Goa Day and later this month