Re: [Goanet]Re: Will the anti-casters identify themselves?

2005-02-28 Thread Gabriel de Figueiredo
--- "Teotonio R. de Souza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Vidyadhar, > As I had mentioned in an earlier > posting, it is not > difficult to trace the caste in Goa if we know the > surname and the original > village of the person. Why bother if you're trying to educate people against casteism

[Goanet]Some dignity that Goan politicians must be possessing

2005-02-28 Thread Cip Fernandes
FEB 28: How much lower can we stoop? Surely there must be some dignity that Goan politicians must be possessing and which should come to the fore now. The war of words between the two opposing parties, especially the Congress and the BJP is sinking to new lows and barely goes a day without one pol

[Goanet]Goans and Jazz--a brief exposition

2005-02-28 Thread Michael Costa Correa
Goans and Jazz--A brief exposition Cornel DaCosta recently sent an article to Goanet which reminisced on the musical events of the 1950's and early 1960's. This was a formative era for many young Goans of that generation in Kenya, Uganda and Tanzania. Bands such as those led by Abel Correia (To

[Goanet]Caste and all the cacophany: some thoughts

2005-02-28 Thread Basilio
Caste and all the cacophony: some thoughts Public discussions on caste, understandably, are disconcerting to the writers as well as to the readers. A dispassionate discussion on this topic seems to be an oxymoron. One can have a robust and rigorous discussion on provocative topics without getting

Re: [Goanet]Re: Goan art

2005-02-28 Thread Venantius J Pinto
George, Hope you are doing well. These are two topics. One is about the artist -Moebius and the other is a piece called Congeries of Lust - attached here to make things clear. I was not talking about a website, but about a comic by Jean Girard/Moebius; that I planned on looking at after hearing

RE: [Goanet]Re: Impact of democracy and federalism on Goa - Vishvanath Pai Panan

2005-02-28 Thread Alfred de Tavares
My dear Flower, I have assorted a flower of Goa to yot; The sweet, humble, unsmeling 'Abolem'. For your analysis bellow i take my much crunched hat high off to you. Löoking forward to meet you with a bunch of Cecil's flowers. Yours, ever blooming, quite gone, Alfred. >From: flower <[EMAIL PROTE

[Goanet]Want to move to Goa

2005-02-28 Thread NATACHA ROMAO
hi  goan friends i'm natacha and i'm from portugal. In the 2003 i was in goa and it was the most beautifull place that i ever seen. I felt at home and since then i wish to go linving in goa, i was saving money and i have already my plane ticket without date. í'm trying to find a job or a project

[Goanet]Goa: UGDP threatens Matanhy with disqualification

2005-02-28 Thread Cip Fernandes
PANAJI: UGDP threatens Matanhy with disqualification BY HERALD REPORTER PANJIM, FEB 28: Acting president of the United Goans Democratic Party (UGDP), Radharao Gracias says that its lone member in the legislative assembly, Matanhy Saldanha, will face disqualification for supporting the BJP despite t

[Goanet]Goa: Cong, BJP try to outwit each other for power

2005-02-28 Thread Cip Fernandes
Cong, BJP try to outwit each other for power NT Staff Reporter Panaji Feb 28: The Congress and the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) are now involved in a game of one-upmanship and trying to outwit each other in the struggle for power by opposing dissolution of the state legislature.With the Speaker, M

[Goanet]Goans and Caste

2005-02-28 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
GL responds: Teotonio thanks for your compliments and you liking my analogy of caste-identification and the work of Gandhiji, Mother Teresa and Black progress in the USA. Finally some real smart Goan follows and likes my logic. Too bad that a few (no names please) are not smart like you to follow t

[Goanet]RE: Gilberto - Casters, anti-casters, herrings & research

2005-02-28 Thread Mario Goveia
I can testify under oath that the Zuari and Mandovi flow through Goa, but I fully support an objective study of whether sati existed in India, and if it did, whwt percentage of women participated in it and whether it had any discernable impact on Indian society. Also, a second similar study on the

[Goanet]ZATHI ANI KATHI GOEMKARAM MODEM (GOANS AND CASTE)

2005-02-28 Thread Sanny Vaz
ZATHI ANI KATHI GOEMKARAM MODEM Nomoskar Somestank, Aiz kitlech dis zale ami sogot hie gozali vhoir vachtaum Internet-acher, tech porim Herald hea potracher, zacho topic zaun assa “GOANS AND CASTE” (ZATHI ANI KATHI). Hea vixaiea vhoir zaiteanim ap-aple vichar ani hietu boroile zoxe porim Bab

[Goanet]Goa Cabinet to decide on fresh date for trust motion

2005-02-28 Thread Cip Fernandes
Cabinet to decide on fresh date for trust motion NT News Service Mapusa Feb 28: The Goa pradesh Congress committee president, Mr Luizinho Faleiro, has said that the date for seeking vote of confidence by the Congress-led United Legislature Party government headed by Mr Pratapsing Rane would be dec

[Goanet]RE: Gilberto - Casters, anti-casters, herrings & research

2005-02-28 Thread jose colaco
From: "Gilbert Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi JC, This scientific study should be very easy! YOU CAN DESIGN THE STUDY to prove the accusations you and other are making! And you know that not all of the anti-casteists are making the same accusations - that is of course if you-guys know the exac

[Goanet] Evolution (contd)

2005-02-28 Thread Peter D'Souza
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Santosh Helekar said: SH> I have to say that your understanding of the article SH> is completely off. What you state above refers only to SH> the first couple of paragraphs of that article with SH> quite revealing title of "Evolution and the Population

[Goanet]Re: Casters, anti-casters & research

2005-02-28 Thread Mario Goveia
Gilbert, Having lived in Mumbai, I'm not sure how you can return repeatedly to the claim that Catholic Goan casteism is a case of "mozem mauxi munta...ani tuzem samumai...". The psychological victims and family ruins of the caste system among Goan Catholics are hardly nebulous. They were all arou

Re: [Goanet]Re: Will the anti-casters identify themselves?

2005-02-28 Thread Mario Goveia
Teotonio, Through the fog of all that feni it is beginning to dawn on me that we may be on the same page. However, while you are looking at the entire problem, I have chosen to prioritize in order to focus and make some identifiable progress. While I abhor any and all forms of discrimination base

[Goanet]Casters, anti-casters & research

2005-02-28 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
Hi JC, This scientific study should be very easy! YOU CAN DESIGN THE STUDY to prove the accusations you and other are making! And you know that not all of the anti-casteists are making the same accusations - that is of course if you-guys know the exact allegations or indictment and not some nebulo

[Goanet]GOANET ADMIN: Launching Goanet Classifieds

2005-02-28 Thread Herman Carneiro
Dear Goanet Members, Goanet is now accepting advertisements from commercial entities and individuals to be broadcast on Goanet, the mailing list. The revenue generated from these advertisements will be utilized to support Goanet’s day-to-day operations. Any surplus funds will be used to suppor

[Goanet]Francisco Sardinha Appointed Speaker.

2005-02-28 Thread Gabe Menezes
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2005/20050301/main9.htm Goa Assembly gets pro tem Speaker Shiv Kumar writes from Panjim February 28 Goa's Governor S.C. Jamir tonight appointed Fransisco Sardinha as pro tem Speaker when the Assembly decides on Chief Minister Pratapsinh Rane's trust vote. Mr Sardinha,

[Goanet]goan food recipes

2005-02-28 Thread Anirudh Gadgil
Dear Sir I would like to express my gratitude and thanks to all those who have been sending in recipes for Goan dishes and of course a big thank you to you all for publishing them. I have been away from Goa for past 10 years and I have sorely missed Goan Cuisine. I have tried all of the recipes s

[Goanet]Re: Goan art

2005-02-28 Thread George Pinto
Venantius Your attachment may not have made it through Goanet. I did receive it since you cc:d me. Very impressive. Regarding Goan Art, I found this website http://www.goa-art.com/. Please let me know what you think of it. It has an impressive list of names (click on select an artist and scr

[Goanet]Goanet News Bytes * Feb 28, 2005 * BJP does unexpected for "parity"

2005-02-28 Thread Goanet News Service
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[Goanet]NEWS: Speaker's action unethical: Rane govt

2005-02-28 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
http://in.rediff.com/news/2005/feb/28goa2.htm Speaker's action unethical: Rane govt February 28, 2005 18:49 IST The Pratapsinh Rane government complained to the Supreme Court on Monday about the speaker's "unethical" action. The Goa assembly speaker Vishwas Satarkar and his deputy Narhari Haldank

[Goanet]Advice to Congress and Speaker Francisco Sardinha.

2005-02-28 Thread Gabe Menezes
Rescind the expulsion of Philip Neri. Call in the Ex-Speaker and find him and one other from BJP guilty of forgery. Have them both disciplined - expel them for conduct unbecoming that of a 'Speaker' (EX) Report them both to the Police. Call order of the House and count out the numbers ! -- Cheer

[Goanet]BIZARRE STORY: United Goans Democratic Party enters Jharkhand...

2005-02-28 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
This is no April Fool's prank! The UGDP won 3 seats in Jharkhand. Apparently the UGDP has the symbol, and this regional grouping in a remote state wanted it so badly that they were willing to use the UGDP's name too ;-) FN http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=65550 Goa party e

[Goanet]Re: Goan art

2005-02-28 Thread George Pinto
Venantius Tell us more. Is it on a website? Should we get a website going for GOAN ART? I am thinking here of adding work by Laxman Pai and the other goan artists. What do you think? Regards, George --- Venantius J Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Its time to read my Moebius comics! Bet

[Goanet]Goa Speaker's resignation.

2005-02-28 Thread Gabe Menezes
http://www.ndtv.com/topstories/showtopstory.asp?slug=Goa+Speaker+resigns%2C+sparks+latest+crisis&id=16393 NDTV Correspondent Monday, February 28, 2005 (Panaji): It was the latest political manoeuvre by the BJP on Monday which turned the tables on the Congress in Goa. Minutes before the vote of

[Goanet]ANYONE GO TICKETS TO GOA

2005-02-28 Thread Cyril Pereira
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[Goanet]28 February 2005 - BJP demandes Rane's dismissal

2005-02-28 Thread Cip Fernandes
BJP demandes Rane's dismissal Sandesh Prabhudesai 28 February 2005 The Bharatiya Janata Party has demanded immediate dismissal of the Congress-led alliance government, claiming that chief minister Pratapsing Rane has failed to win the trust vote. Speaker Vishwas Satarkar, belonging to the BJP, t

[Goanet]NRIs, rejoice! NRE interest to be tax free!

2005-02-28 Thread Edward Verdes
NRIs, rejoice! NRE interest to be tax free! http://in.rediff.com/money/2005/feb/28bud54.htm February 28, 2005 18:07 IST In a move that would benefit to NRIs, Finance Minister P Chidambaram extended tax exemption on interest in Non-Resident (external) Account and on interest payable by a scheduled

[Goanet]Governor throws down the book.

2005-02-28 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 1st February I had asked the question, what is the speaker resigns his post ! In a posting with the subject line 'Governor throws down the book' At that time it was mooted that both the Speaker and Deputy Speaker could not resign as it would be unconstitutional. Perhaps the BJP Government is

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2005-02-28 Thread cardozofly
Dear Mario, As time goes by, education will get rid of it all. Ignore it and literally leave it alone. It works on its own and will fade away. You may go on if you have the time to waste. Jack. Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Cip, Haven't you been reading my posts? My specific goal

[Goanet]Re: [Goanet News Bytes]FLASH * Speaker, deputy quit in Goa...

2005-02-28 Thread Felix Soares
Thank u very much for your quick information. Thanks Felix Soares Muscat

[Goanet]NEWS-SPECIAL: Parrikar claims it's 17-17 in Goa assembly after day of politicking

2005-02-28 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
Parrikar claims it's 17-17 in Goa assembly after day of politicking From Frederick Noronha Goanet.org PANAJI (Goa), Feb 28: After a day of two resignations, one disqualification and intense political uncertainty, Goa's former BJP ruling party claimed that it was once again tied 17-17 in the state

[Goanet]Monday, 28/02/2005 - Confidence Vote: Assembly adjourned

2005-02-28 Thread Cip Fernandes
Confidence Vote: Assembly adjourned NT Staff Reporter Feb 28 Panaji: The Goa Assembly was today adjourned sine die after the Speaker and Dy Speaker both resigned from their respective posts. The Congress led UPA govt has 17 members while the the opposition BJP has 16 plus one supporting UGDP MLA.

[Goanet]Goa Assembly today

2005-02-28 Thread Cip Fernandes
From: Herald Filipe Neri disqualified.. ..Speaker hires private security guards as marshals in legislature... .FLASH : Speaker Vishwas Satarkar and Deputy Speaker resigns - Constitutional Crisis in Goa Assembly SC postpones Mannohar Parrikar hearing till March 4th

[Goanet]Speaker, deputy quit in Goa... assembly adjourned sine die

2005-02-28 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
SPEAKER, DEPUTY SPEAKER RESIGN IN GOA From Frederick Noronha Goanet.org PANAJI (Goa), Feb 28: Giving a new twist to the Goa power struggle between the outnumbered BJP and an aggressive Congress, the BJP's Speaker and deputy speaker in the Goa assembly both resigned their posts today. This came b

[Goanet]Re: Will the anti-casters identify themselves?

2005-02-28 Thread Teotonio R. de Souza
Dear Mario, I am with you all the way, but I prefer that we act with "full" knowledge of the ugly reality, not moving with blinkers on. I would not also be so exclusivist as you seem to be in restricting these efforts to Catholic Goans! What kind of faith in humanity are you referring to? Self-ce

[Goanet]Ethel addresses the Ex-Chief Minister

2005-02-28 Thread Cecil Pinto
HEART 2 HEART By Ethel Da Costa The LOSER anthem Dear Ex-Chief Minister, Let me share a school song sung by the children of Government Primary School, Porvorim this Republic Day, January 26, during flag hoisting. It chilled the warmth in my blood, as also the guests witness to the function. I wo

[Goanet]Goa speaker Vishwas Satarkar disqualified deputy chief minister Philip Neri Rodrigues,

2005-02-28 Thread Cip Fernandes
Philip Neri disqualified Sandesh Prabhudesai 28 February 2005 One and a half hour before the crucial Assembly session, Goa speaker Vishwas Satarkar disqualified deputy chief minister Philip Neri Rodrigues, an independent legislator. Satarkar, at 1 pm, announced that Rodrigues has been disqualifi

[Goanet]Goa: Speaker, Dy Sp resign, House adjourned sine die

2005-02-28 Thread Cip Fernandes
Speaker, Dy Sp resign, House adjourned sine die Sandesh Prabhudesai 28 February 2005 The Goa Assembly was adjourned sin die within minutes, with both speaker and the deputy speaker, belonging to the opposition Bharatiya Janata Party, resigning from the posts. No trust vote was thus moved in favo

[Goanet]FLASH: Speaker, Deputy Speaker resign in Goa

2005-02-28 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
* SPEAKER and deputy speaker resign in Goa * Assembly adjourney sine die without vote of confidence

[Goanet]Goa Speaker disqualifies Rodrigues

2005-02-28 Thread borg costa
Ahead of the confidence vote sought by the Pratapsinh Rane Government in Goa assembly, Speaker Vishwas Satarkar on Monday disqualified an independent MLA Filipe Neri Rodrigues thus reducing the strength of the Congress-led Rane Government to 17. However, the action is not going to have any impact a

[Goanet]Goa Assembly

2005-02-28 Thread Cip Fernandes
Neri decided to sit in the House Sandesh Prabhudesai 28 February 2005 Goa Assembly may witness one more tamasha today as disqualified deputy chief minister Philip Neri Rodrigues has decided to try and enter the House, claiming that he has not received the disqualification order. Neri arrived at

Re: [Goanet]INDIA TV'S SENSATIONAL EXPOSURE!

2005-02-28 Thread Venantius J Pinto
What else but congeries of lust and voracious appetites! Why is it that, historically men in positions of power frequently choose to satiate themselves on young girls? Its time to read my Moebius comics! Better to get stoned on good drawing and impeccable color palettes; so as to get this Bihari h

[Goanet]Re: Will the anti-casters identify themselves?

2005-02-28 Thread Teotonio R. de Souza
Dear Vidyadhar, Goan caste system and ambiance is not basically very different from what you see in Maharashtra. As I had mentioned in an earlier posting, it is not difficult to trace the caste in Goa if we know the surname and the original village of the person. I say "original", because some p

[Goanet]The Probllem in Goa lies in Delhi

2005-02-28 Thread Sachin Phadte
Title: The Probllem in Goa lies in Delhi Author: Shri V.A. Panandiker, The Founder-President of Centre for Policy Research, is based in Goa. Publications: The Indian Express Date: February 23, 2005 For Goa, it is now time to go back to the people A spate of articles on Goa suggests that democracy i

Re: [Goanet]UPDATES * FLASH...

2005-02-28 Thread Seb dc
Thanks for the update Fred! I have a strong feeling the Governor will disolve the assembly. Rane will be the caretaker CM. Now it the time for LokShakti and Goa-Suraj to make dent in the forth coming elections... Seb +++ > * Goa deputy CM Filipe Neri Rodrigues disqualifie

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2005-02-28 Thread Mario Goveia
Jack, You are correct about education, which is diluting the caste system even among Hindus. However, where does "education" come from? Doesn't our speaking out vociferously contribute to the "education", and provide moral support to those who may actually be facing the problem even as we speak?

Re: [Goanet]Re: Will the anti-casters identify their caste?

2005-02-28 Thread Mario Goveia
I am trying hard to work on my tan in Goa, Pune and Mumbai, and to make a dent in the total inventory of caju feni, cafreal, sorpotel and sannas, only to have my pleasant experiences tarnished by the continued attempt by a couple of Goanetters to obfuscate, deflect and dilute the diabolical issue o

[Goanet]Process of teaching should be joyful

2005-02-28 Thread Cip Fernandes
Process of teaching should be joyful: Fernandes NT News Service Margao, Feb 27: The deputy director of education, Mr L M T Fernandes while highlighting the role of teachers in society said that process of teaching should be joyful, satisfying and creative and it should not be based on authoritaria

[Goanet]UPDATES * FLASH...

2005-02-28 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
* Goa deputy CM Filipe Neri Rodrigues disqualified * Congress to parade MLAs before Governor * Speaker likely to take on private security in the assembly

[Goanet]Relevance of National Science Day

2005-02-28 Thread Goa Desc
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[Goanet]INDIA TV'S SENSATIONAL EXPOSURE!

2005-02-28 Thread D'Souza, Avelino
  India TV in its continuous coverage, sex videos of Indian politicians, has shown stunning videos of four politicians. The four politicians have been caught having sex with young girls. These girls are young enough to be their daughters. These four were caught on hidden camera installed in on

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2005-02-28 Thread Mario Goveia
Cip, Haven't you been reading my posts? My specific goal is to expose this diabolical system and to encourage others to denounce it as well so that we can jointly drive a stake through the heart of this destructive system. --- Cip Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Antonio, > What is the main

[Goanet]Goa: Trust vote today

2005-02-28 Thread Cip Fernandes
Trust vote today NT Staff Reporter Panaji, Feb 27: Stage is set for the trial of strength of the 25-day-old Pratapsing Rane government on the floor of the state legislative assembly tomorrow. Both — the ruling Congress-combine and the Bharatiya Janata Party — have finalised their strategies for t

RE: [Goanet]Re: Goans and caste

2005-02-28 Thread Cip Fernandes
George, It appears from your post that the debate on 'Goans and caste system' is about 'who is right and who is wrong' instead of 'what is what is right and what is wrong.' Cip Fernandes UK -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of George Pinto Sent: