Re: [Goanet]GoanetReader -- The Empire Strikes Back to Palacio das Cortes (VM)

2005-03-21 Thread Bernado Colaco
VM is back. One remember's the days of canards. Now it is Amcho Goan. How the shades change. B. Colaco --- Goanet Reader goanet@goanet.org wrote: THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK TO PALACIO DAS CORTES Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

[Goanet]RE: : airfields again again

2005-03-21 Thread jose colaco
Phillip Thomas wrote: 1. What has been the nature of the equation, the relationship, between the Navy and Goa over the decades? 2. What are the plans for building Goa into a 21st century 3700 sqkm 'city' of beautiful villages ? And what is the Navy's contribution to that going to be at

[Goanet]AICHEA DISSAK CHINTOP - March 22, 2005!

2005-03-21 Thread domnic fernandes
“Devan tuka divpi kela. Tuje hath ugtte zolmoleat ani toxench tujem kalliz. Kednaim tuje hath khali assot punn tujem kalliz sodanch borlelem asta.” (God has made you a giver. Your hands are born open and so is your heart. There may be times when your hands are empty but your heart is always

[Goanet]Naming Game2 (Kazar) re. Folli/Kankonnkar

2005-03-21 Thread JoeGoaUk
We call Kankonnkar in Salcette: Also, we say Kankannacho Chuddo or Chullo (=folli ?). These checqured bangles/chullo worn by bride some few weeks before the wedding or just after 'vigorjent kazarachi chitt podli mhontoch'. During this time, friends relatives used to invite the bride for

[Goanet]Article in Konkani by Dominic

2005-03-21 Thread V Fading
Hi , Just want to record my thianks to Dominic who wrote the konkani article about getting married and having kids etc. I have saved it to practice onI mean the language. Being in Malaysia I have lost touch with konkani - surrounded by languages like Malay, Hokkien, Mandarin, Tamil which

[Goanet]Goanet News Bytes * Mar 22, 2005 * Protest on World Water Day

2005-03-21 Thread Goanet News Service
[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] G o a n e t - N e w s B y t e s MARCH 22, 2005 DATELINE: GOA ||g |||o |||a |||n |||e |||t || Issue compiled by ||__|||__|||__|||__|||__|||__|| Frederick Noronha

[Goanet]Re: Garbage Going Goa Gone

2005-03-21 Thread Tom Carolina
Garbage collection, The governement can either have an incinirator or have a landfill where the garbage is treated and the metane gas generated is used to generate electricity. Both are specialised jobs and very prevalent in Hong kong and Macau, where over 7,000,000.00 million people live and

[Goanet]GOAN POETIC COUP IN KATHMANDU

2005-03-21 Thread brian mark mendonca
 COUP IN KATHMANDU: 'I AM NOT ALONE' GOES NEPALI 'Through the many lanes of his poetry, Brian has brought us to the centre of life,'- summed up Professor of English, Shailendra Kumar Singh of Tribhuvan University, Kathmandu, after an invigorating poetry reading session by Goan poet Dr Brian

[Goanet]Goan appointed Portugal's Minister of State, Internal Administration

2005-03-21 Thread Mario Goveia
Goan appointed Portugal's Minister of State, Internal Administration PANAJI: A Goan, Antonio da Costa , was recently appointed to the number two position in the Portuguese government as Minister of State and Internal Administration. He was appointed to the post on 4 March by the newly appointed

[Goanet]Hum Apke Hain Kaun?

2005-03-21 Thread Philip Thomas
What benefit do Goans get from the Dabolim base?[Jose Colaco, March 21] What has been the nature of the equation, the relationship, between the Navy and Goa over the decades? Not in terms of imagined ideals/evils but in real terms. On balance, is it positive or negative? Is the existence of

Re: [Goanet]Main points of a speech in the Rajya Sabha

2005-03-21 Thread Bernado Colaco
Nice one Faleiro. Goans are still struggling for Independence from the Bharatis. What development? Maybe fit for a third world country. B. Colaco --- Eduardo Faleiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Proclamation under Article 356 of the Constitution regarding Goa. Main points of the Speech of

[Goanet]Re: airfields again

2005-03-21 Thread gilbert menezes
Dear Jose, here are the answers to your very basic queries: 1. Your basic premise is wrong. The airport did not belong to the people of Goa pre 1961, as you have stated. It belonged to the Portuguese, as it was a Government facility. After independence, it devolved to the Govt. of india, and

Re: [Goanet]Re: airfields

2005-03-21 Thread Gabriel de Figueiredo
--- gilbert menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: btw,What *technical* function did you perform for the Brazilian Navy? Procured spares for engines and allied equipment for Niteroi-class frigates, Humaitá-class subs, Sea-king and Lynx helicopters, IFF equipment etc. in the European market, and

Re: [Goanet]Modi, USA Sends more than subtle message.

2005-03-21 Thread Marlon Menezes
The moves by the US government to block this communalist is a very positive move. The next objective should be a world wide campaign to prosecute Modi for crimes against humanity. This would make Modi liable for arrest in any nation he were to vist. Come to think of it, would not India be bound to

[Goanet]Goanet News Bytes * March 21, 2005 * Poll preparation, gazette

2005-03-21 Thread Goanet News Service
[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] G o a n e t - N e w s B y t e s MARCH 21, 2005 DATELINE: GOA ||g |||o |||a |||n |||e |||t || Issue compiled by ||__|||__|||__|||__|||__|||__|| Frederick Noronha

[Goanet]Folk Songs of Goa: Mando-Dulpods Deknnis

2005-03-21 Thread Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com
Folk Songs of Goa: Mando-Dulpods Deknnis From the Jacket: Konkani Song, of which Goan Song is the preeminent branch, is a treasury of the traditional music of the Indian subcontinent. It has at least 35 types, monophonic and harmonic, the former prevalent before the Portuguese brought Western

[Goanet]On email-for-all and footballs

2005-03-21 Thread Miguel Braganca
Dears, My transition from being computer-illiterate to being e-literate was assisted by three persons: Caliste de Souza[ brother of Dr.Teotonio de Souza Moir/Portugal], Marina Sequeira[ wife of Heston and sister of Melvyn Misquita of Aldona] and my daughter,Karla, then a student of Std.IX in

[Goanet]Check the Goa gazettes online

2005-03-21 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
http://goagovt.nic.in/gazette.htm About the Official Gazette: The main activity of the Department is the printing and publication of the offical Gazette -- the official organ of the Government -- brought out weekly on every Thursday. wherein the Central an Local Acts enacted by the Parliament

Re: [Goanet] Modi. US of A stands by decision

2005-03-21 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RESPONSE: The programme on BBC 4, put forth a view, Indians are a very religious lot. The problem with India could be the secularism. It would make more sense to embrace all Religions i.e. pluralism. I subscribe to this, setting aside religion is not the

[Goanet]RE: Naming Game 2-Kazar (Wedding) Tum Sangxi?

2005-03-21 Thread Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com
Lino Dourado wrote: Avelino bab, Tumi 'curusidadin' vichartat mhonn, mhaka 'istimosanv' dislem. 1- Folli The 'kankonnkar' fits bangles on the hands of the bride are called folli (green back ground with yellow lines) --- Interesting input Lino. Definitely the first words and their clear

Re: [Goanet]Drivel

2005-03-21 Thread Mario Goveia
Now, now, Cornel. Calm down, man. Why do you think this diabolical system has lasted for so long? We need to be patient. I am taking Avelino at his word that he is just interested in learning more about the subject. So, I have suggested he read the article in America magazine, written not by

Re: [Goanet]Modi. US of A stands by decision

2005-03-21 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RESPONSE: The programme on BBC 4, put forth a view, Indians are a very religious lot. The problem with India could be the secularism. It would make more sense to embrace all Religions i.e. pluralism. I subscribe to this, setting aside religion is not the

[Goanet]Drivel

2005-03-21 Thread cornel
Hi Mario, I have noted your posts on Avelino's amazingly pathetic responses re the caste debate. As far as I am concerned, Avelino excels in drivel but does not know so.Trying to provide some illumination to the fellow is like casting pearls to swine as per the old proverb. I am not sure I want

Re: [Goanet]Modi. US of A stands by decision

2005-03-21 Thread Gabe Menezes
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:00:51 -0800 (PST), Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4368501.stm US stands by India visa decision Mario replies: Good for the USA. Shame on the AAHOA (Asian American Hotel

[Goanet]Final Solution.

2005-03-21 Thread Gabe Menezes
Watched both the programmes on BBC 4 last night. If ever one wanted to see the true colours of the BJP, then viewing the documentaries was a must. As I had written before, the goondas are part and parcel of the BJP. Their hierarchy will go out of their way to protect their troops, it cannot be

[Goanet]Sikhs hail denial of visa to Modi.

2005-03-21 Thread Gabe Menezes
http://www.webindia123.com/news/showdetails.asp?id=74181cat=India Sikh bodies hail denial of visa to Narender Modi:- Amritsar | March 21, 2005 9:33:16 AM IST Various Sikh organizations have hailed the decision of the denial of visa to Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi by US Consulate in

Re: [Goanet]Modi. US of A stands by decision

2005-03-21 Thread Mario Goveia
Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4368501.stm US stands by India visa decision BJP activists protest against the US The decision has angered Mr Modi's supporters The United States has reaffirmed a decision to refuse the controversial Indian

Re: [Goanet]This heated debate about nothing...

2005-03-21 Thread Marlon Menezes
Cornel, I dont recall bringing god into discussion of caste. Quite possibly, god is yet another man made construct like caste. I stand by my opinion that the issue of caste is very less relevant to people of my generation than perhaps yours. Having lived and studied in India for many years and

[Goanet]Insurance; look before you leap.

2005-03-21 Thread Gabe Menezes
http://in.rediff.com/money/2005/mar/21perfin1.htm 5 MUSTs to look for in an insurance co March 21, 2005 10:03 IST Ever since the floodgates to the life insurance sector were thrown open to the private sector, there have been a plethora of insurance plans for individuals. Individuals have been

[Goanet]Re: Modi. US of A stands by decision

2005-03-21 Thread Gabe Menezes
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 17:08:04 +, Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4368501.stm US stands by India visa decision BJP activists protest against the US The decision has angered Mr Modi's supporters The United States has reaffirmed a decision

[Goanet]KONKANI FOLK AND TRADIONAL SONGS

2005-03-21 Thread A. Veronica Fernandes
KONKANI FOLK AND TRADIONAL SONGS Folk songs and traditional songs of any community are very important for uniting the community members together. Goan Konkani traditional songs such as Mandos and Dulpods are very souls of our community and it is this particular aspect of our songs that keep us

[Goanet]Modi. US of A stands by decision

2005-03-21 Thread Gabe Menezes
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4368501.stm US stands by India visa decision BJP activists protest against the US The decision has angered Mr Modi's supporters The United States has reaffirmed a decision to refuse the controversial Indian politician, Narendra Modi, permission to enter

RE: [Goanet]Relatives Names in Konkani

2005-03-21 Thread Alfred de Tavares
OBS: Father is Bappa and Mother is Ayi From: Eddie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org To: Goanet goanet@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet]Relatives Names in Konkani Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:07:14 +0300 Friends, I have compiled a list of Relatives names in Konkani which are mostly used in

Re: [Goanet]RE: Cornel exposed!

2005-03-21 Thread Mario Goveia
Hey, Avelino, It's time to wake up. I thought I was being very creative in figuring out your Sherlock Holmes-style conclusion that Cornel was a bigot and an opportunist with a sinister plan to dominate society through education and intelligence. What a dastardly idea! How did I miss it

[Goanet]An email address for every Goan ! we begin with Goans in the UK.

2005-03-21 Thread rene barreto
000 The AOL Innovation in the Community Awards 2005 are open to community groups and registered charities in the UK that are seeking funding for new and existing Internet projects. The Internet is a powerful tool for

[Goanet]Dear Gabriel re: Juhu Aerodrome, Rats et al

2005-03-21 Thread jose colaco
Is the Juhu airstrip shorter or longer than the runway on an aircraft carrier? Just curious...[Gabriel de Figueiredo, March 21] Dear Gabriel, I have been following the Phillip Thomas, Gilbert Menezes and your conversation about Dabolim et al Must say that Prof Thomas makes a lot of sense.

[Goanet]Centre for Latin American Studies, Goa University (long)

2005-03-21 Thread Prof V Shivkumar
[MODERATOR'S NOTE: This post has been trimmed for length.] Please find enclosed Overview of our Centre, which I had been able to accomplish in the last decade or so. I would like the Goan students to take advantage of the academic programes offered by the Centre. BACKGROUND Established in the

RE: [Goanet]Relatives Names in Konkani

2005-03-21 Thread Nagesh Bhatcar
Eddie, You have brought about the beauty of Konkani language in being able to describe every relationship with a single word. That does not happen in English. At least some of the names are not used by Hindus. You said... Azo - Great Grand father Aji - Great Grand mother Xapai - Grandfather

[Goanet]Re:Relatives Names in Konkani

2005-03-21 Thread Edward Verdes
Domnic Bab, What a coincidence :) Here you have it all in your 'Family Tree' an article which every Goan should read about Relatives Names in Konkani. Indeed times have changed and one hardly hears these names...every member is addressed as Uncle or Auntie.now days even own children call

[Goanet]Re: airfields

2005-03-21 Thread Salus Correia
Gilbert, Your mails do make interesting reading, and with your naval background etc its nice to learn a few things now and then. Refering to your response to Gabriel, I had in the past gathered from the various posts on Dabolim, that the airport in question was somehow usurped off the people

Re: [Goanet]All you Wanted to Know About Liquor Permits But Were Afraid to Ask -Clinton..

2005-03-21 Thread Gabe Menezes
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:24:19 -0500, MailinglistClint! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Joe, My father has been in the liquor business since 1982 and has since, established himself as a well known liquor distributor in South Goa. We have an establishment which wholesales liquor all over Goa as

[Goanet]Goa cashew farmers beware.

2005-03-21 Thread Gabe Menezes
http://www.webindia123.com/news/showdetails.asp?id=74202cat=India Kerala's cashew farmers protest use of killer pesticide Endosulfan:- Kochi | March 21, 2005 9:31:03 AM IST Moves by a government-appointed commission to recommend the use of the pesticide, Endosulfan, in Kerala's cashew

[Goanet]re: need Goan Law....by m.karekar@mtc

2005-03-21 Thread Joe Lobo
Pretty good ideabut some innocent goans living elsewhere in other states of the Union .will face difficulties/ backlash..in their single business dealings if tit-for tat action occurs. How about goans in Mumbai or Bihar?

[Goanet]Job Opportunities in Ireland

2005-03-21 Thread Carlos
Ireland is looking to India for skills in IT healthcare TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ MONDAY, MARCH 21, 2005 About a year after the Embassy of Ireland introduced the outsourcing of visa operations in India to VFS on a pilot basis, the service has been formally launched by the Irish minister for

[Goanet]All you Wanted to Know About Liquor Permits But Were Afraid to Ask -Clinton..

2005-03-21 Thread MailinglistClint!
Hi Joe, My father has been in the liquor business since 1982 and has since, established himself as a well known liquor distributor in South Goa. We have an establishment which wholesales liquor all over Goa as well as a retail outlet below Grace Church by the name of Vaz Enterprises. When making

RE: [Goanet]Relatives Names in Konkani

2005-03-21 Thread domnic fernandes
Hi Eddie! I just posted my article Family Tree (Kuttombachem Zadd) on Goanet and subsequently received your list of relatives' names in Konkani. What a coincidence! Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA From: Eddie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org To: Goanet

[Goanet]India politics degraded!

2005-03-21 Thread Gabe Menezes
http://www.keralanext.com/news/indexread.asp?id=157539 India ; Politics degraded to political adventurism, arithmetic: Kalam (LEAD) : 1 Hour,0 minutes Ago [India News] New Delhi, In one of his strongest indictments of Indian politics, President A.P.J. Abdul Kalam Monday lamented that

[Goanet]Wedding trap!

2005-03-21 Thread Gabe Menezes
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1534984,00.html March 21, 2005 The text message that said 'Help, I'm in a wedding trap' By Stewart Tendler AHMED, from the Midlands and in his early twenties, went to Pakistan with his family on what his parents told him was a last chance to see his

[Goanet]FAMILY TREE (KUTTOMBACHEM ZADD!

2005-03-21 Thread domnic fernandes
God created Adam and Eve who gave birth to children and they in turn increased and multiplied and filled the world with humanity. Generally, when a man and woman get married, one of their immediate plans is to have a child so that their family increases and multiplies. From thereon, a

[Goanet]Juhu Aerodrome

2005-03-21 Thread Philip Thomas
Is the Juhu airstrip shorter or longer than the runway on an aircraft carrier? Just curious...[Gabriel de Figueiredo, March 21] The same thing can be asked about Seabird/Yenkebe and especially Kochi naval air station! The Navy may be dithering about the former but the latter should be

[Goanet]Re: airfields

2005-03-21 Thread gilbert menezes
Gabriel , since you ask, the Juhu strip is longer than the deck of a carrier. But that was not the point. The suggestion from your friend Phillip was for Juhu to serve as substitute for the Navy which is operating an air station at Goa. You therefore need to look at the huge Navy infrastructure

Re: [Goanet]RE: Naming Game 2-Kazar (Wedding) Tum Sangxi?

2005-03-21 Thread lino dourado
Lino wrote Maddamchea chutt'ttancho vapor khoimsor zatalo? Can you tell the following 1- Folli 2- Tornaboda 3- Calcada 4- Mali or Malinn 5- Alvis Avelino wrote: Lino bab, Hanvem zaiti koshish keli tumcho vo proxn somjunk. Pun kotta kainch lab mellonk nam. Upkar korun

[Goanet]Relatives Names in Konkani

2005-03-21 Thread Eddie
Friends, I have compiled a list of Relatives names in Konkani which are mostly used in Salcette. Some of these names are taken from the Portugese words. There may be some mistakesyou may correct or add more. We also used TI/Man - before the names of elders (brothers/Sisters or relatives) eg.

Re: [Goanet]Naming Game 2-Kazar (Wedding)

2005-03-21 Thread Eddie
Thank you Lino Bab, I have also heard that, when the Dorji (tailor) comes to the house to stitch the wedding gown/suit...they or neighbours used to sing some songs...do you or any ganvbhav know what they are called and where can I find those words. Regards Eddie Verdes Chinchinchim/KSA -

[Goanet]Your prerogative

2005-03-21 Thread cornel
Hi Gilbert, Thanks for your reply. However, please note that your faith in caste/casteism is entirely your prerogative. Is there any chance you might reply to the two questions I set you and reminded you of these about four times? Regards, Cornel

[Goanet]FOOTBALL for ALL ........

2005-03-21 Thread rene barreto
Goenkars ! I thought , I d share this post from Pat - ( email to me ) and my response. rene -- Date:Mon, 21 Mar 2005 00:12:29 -0800 (PST) From:rene barreto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:FOOTBALL for ALL To:P D [EMAIL

Re: [Goanet]Juhu Aerodrome

2005-03-21 Thread Eddie
Juhu Aerodrome is presently being used by Pawan Hans (Helicopters) for the ONGC's Bombay High Offshore Project, for transporting crew to offshore installationsit was also used by pvt aviation companies for the smaller aircrafts. The Juhu airstrip might be slightly bigger than the runway of

Re: [Goanet]WATER FOR LIFE: THEME FOR WORLD WATER DAY:

2005-03-21 Thread Seb dc
On the World Water Day Please do not waste it - while you have enough please take care of it A drop saved ...is a bucket earned. Save it now . Never throw water down the drain, it could be used for other purposes like watering plants . Use a bucket while bathing instead of the shower

[Goanet]RE: Naming Game 2-Kazar (Wedding) Tum Sangxi?

2005-03-21 Thread D'Souza, Avelino
Lino bab, Hanvem zaiti koshish keli tumcho vo proxn somjunk. Pun kotta kainch lab mellonk nam. Upkar korun maka sang him panch sobd konkni bhaxechim vo firgim bhaxechim? Vicharta munn ragar zainaka, karann hanvem him utram kednanch aikonk nam. Avelino Bastora/Kuwait ___ lino dourado

[Goanet]Naming Game 2-Kazar (Wedding)

2005-03-21 Thread lino dourado
ROS A day before the wedding the bride and the groom, each at their respective houses, are made to sit in the mail hall (salant). Relatives, neighbors are invited over to apply ros. The ROS is applied to the different parts of the body. Ros is a farewell to single life...some