[Goanet]Indian shuttlers crumble at the crunch

2005-05-13 Thread Eustaquio Santimano
Indian shuttlers crumble at the crunch May 13, 2005 21:20 IST India's shuttlers failed to raise their game when it mattered most and went down to Poland 3-1 in the play-off for promotion to the higher group in the World Mixed Team Badminton championships, for the Sudirman Cup, in Beijing on F

Re: [Goanet]Re: CATHOLIC ???

2005-05-13 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- George Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I agree with Santosh and would rephrase his last >sentence to read "When warranted and fact-based, >there ought to be no limits on religious and >ideological criticism on Goanet". > George, Thanks for rephrasing my last sentence. I hope it reassu

[Goanet]Re: WAR IN IRAQ

2005-05-13 Thread Mervyn Lobo
Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You are so totally uninformed about the US and the > situation in Iraq that I don't know where to start. Het Mario, Not only do you have serious comprehension skills but you also have strange propagation skills (that you do not seem to be aware of.) Nob

[Goanet]Reply to Cornel...........

2005-05-13 Thread Vivian D'Souza
Cornel: I was told that the class of people who work with cows leather, viz shoemakers, were considered unclean and therefore untouchables. I am not an expert so I defer to anyone who wants to enlighten us, though I dont care one way or another. We are all equal. Kudos to you on your personal

[Goanet]Re: False assertions

2005-05-13 Thread Fr. Ivo Da C. Souza
Santosh Helekar wrote: --It is well known that scientists are trying to find rational explanations grounded in objective evidence. True. But Science cannot prove that the Universe had a beginning with an explosion (BIG BANG). Science also in this area has recourse to assumptions, opi

[Goanet]Two Goans among the Four Indian students - won the Intel ISEF awrds

2005-05-13 Thread Carlos
http://www.zeenews.com/links/articles.asp?aid=217049&sid=NAT Four Indian students awarded at Intel ISEF Houston, May 13: Four Indian students have won awards at the prestigious Intel International Science and Engineering Fair being held in Phoenix, Arizona for innovation and invention in addres

[Goanet]Audience v/s Participants

2005-05-13 Thread Cecil Pinto
Pat de Sousa wrote: My reading of Sunil's (avertano teles) post was why do Goanetters selectively pick on bashing Catholics? Cecil: I agree with Pat. I make sure I am equally critical of all organised religion. - Pat: Could it be because Catholics simply roll over and turn the other cheek or

[Goanet]Re: mario bushy bushy whack whack...

2005-05-13 Thread percy ferrao
Yes Gaby, with the knowledge Mario has on Post Saddam Iraq, Bushey could even appoint as the President of the Republic of Iraq !! Percy Ferrao Ealing Road

[Goanet]Knock a Salud to the magical moonshine! DECCAN HERALD

2005-05-13 Thread Frederick Noronha
http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/may102005/spectrum83021200559.asp Knock a Salud to the magical moonshine! DECCAN HERALD MARIANNE de NAZARETH goes to Goa and discovers the 400 year-old fenny which is being brewed by the SVD seminarians. Just cross over into Goa from Karwar over the gha

[Goanet]By-elections: Let us act smart

2005-05-13 Thread Cajetan Rego
Dear Goans, Babush, Isidore and Micky are busy displaying their might on the streets. Motorcycles are being distributed in Taleigaon. Parties are being thrown in Benaulim. Uninformed and self centred people have fallen prey to these perks. If the congress come to power, we can only expect a co

[Goanet]Re: How did science begin?

2005-05-13 Thread Fr. Ivo Da C. Souza
> Fr.Ivo wrote: > >What the scientists are trying to find is also opinion. > > Dr.Santosh Helekar says: > The above statement is also false. It is well > known that scientists are > trying to find rational explanations grounded in > objective evidence. The scientists are trying to find

Re: [Goanet] NEWS UPDATE - another Saddam mass grave found in Iraq

2005-05-13 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >RESPONSE: Again you are bringing us down to your >level - primary school stuff - there is not one of us >on this goanet site that loves Saddam; I would state >though that there are not many of us that would > follow George Bush or your view either! >

[Goanet]Re: NEWS UPDATE - another Saddam mass grave found in Iraq

2005-05-13 Thread Colin Britto
The author must realise that it is just HIS case that WMD still exists. No-one else (even BUSH officials) believe this any more.The author is free to believe exactly what he wants to believe and ignore ALL facts. However - that doesn't make the facts go away... I also note he uses terms below like

[Goanet]Re: Cornel's query re Caste

2005-05-13 Thread cornel
Jose, Many thanks for your helpful answer to my question about shoemakers as untouchables and as thus referred to them by Vivian in one of her posts. I am aware of course about those deemed to be untouchables highlighted by Ambedkar and many others including Gandhi in his terminology for them as

[Goanet]Portuguese encounters of two different kinds (Leite's Culinaria)

2005-05-13 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
http://www.leitesculinaria.com/columns/port_cookbooks.html Portuguese encounters of two different kinds (Leite's Culinaria) By David Leite Quick, name a good Portuguese cookbook. It's not easy, is it? There are lots of debates as to why shelves containing French or Italian cookbooks buckle under

[Goanet]Quotes from Arcbishop Levada

2005-05-13 Thread Goan Patriot
Quotes From Archbishop Levada Friday May 13, 2005 10:01 PM AP Photo CAER104 By The Associated Press Quotes from San Francisco Archbishop William Levada, named Friday by Pope Benedict XVI to succeed him as head of the Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith: ON CATHOLIC POLITICIANS:

[Goanet]Re: Just Culture

2005-05-13 Thread George Pinto
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > So as I look at the discussion of failure of priests, among other things, it > is the community > that permits priests to be liberal / reformed that may also be at fault. The statement above is factually wrong since non-liberal Catholic communities in the USA al

Re: [Goanet]When ignorance is truly bliss.....

2005-05-13 Thread Mario Goveia
The objection by the Democrats to Bolton is that he may actually call a spade a spade and induce the feckless UN to change its corrupt ways. People like you are afraid of him because he will shake up the currently useless and corrupt UN, and force them to perform the conflict resolution that is th

Re: [Goanet]WAR ON IRAQ

2005-05-13 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Colin Britto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As an American citizen, I fail to understand why the > author does not realise that the reason the interim > Iraqi govt has "asked the US troops to stay on" is > because (drum roll) THEY HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE > > And with all the American troops the

[Goanet]A message in a bottle from Colin to Mario

2005-05-13 Thread jose colaco
From: Colin Britto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Why does the author not hop on a plane and commence the search himself? Age should not be a factor - heck, they're re-enlisting 55 year olds here. Better yet, the author should enlist for the war he so ardently supports - and get all his family members to e

[Goanet]RE: Cornel's query re Caste

2005-05-13 Thread jose colaco
From: "cornel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dear more learned colleagues, re: Shoemakers aka Chamars or Mochis or Sapateiros, The following attached info should be self informative Without tacit or implied support of the indefensible Apartheid colour (varna) based discrimination perpetrated in the nam

[Goanet]Misery of India's spice farmers

2005-05-13 Thread Gabe Menezes
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4536961.stm Misery of India's spice farmers By Sunil Raman BBC News, Kerala Thousands of spice farmers in India are in the midst of a major crisis, threatening one of the country's best known trades. The worst affected are black pepper farmers

Re: [Goanet]Re: NEWS UPDATE - another Saddam mass grave found in Iraq

2005-05-13 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 13/05/05, Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mario replies: > Gabe, it would help the civilized discourse that we > are supposed to have on Goanet if you knew what you > were talking about. I have repeatedly made the case > that the WMDs are still hidden somewhere, whereas you > and the

[Goanet]Re: Undir mujea mama chim utram!

2005-05-13 Thread George Pinto
--- Bernado Colaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The dulpod Undir Mujea Mama carries four verses. Some times additional lines > are sung > along for example: Ai ai maia ia. > Ai lia lia lo. Ai lia lia lo > Ai lia lia lia lia samba lia lo > > Could any netter advise on the meaning of the above

Re: [Goanet]Re: NEWS UPDATE - another Saddam mass grave found in Iraq

2005-05-13 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Also the author keeps asking the rest of us, the whereabouts of the WMD. His Government insisted that there were WMD's. When these were not found the rhetoric, is did you want Saddam to continue in Iraq. How truly sad, how one can conjure an excuse after

Re: [Goanet]Glycerine in Indian beer?

2005-05-13 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 13/05/05, Cecil Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: .. The guy who > performed this trick told me that this was glycerine which was only present > in Indian beer, probably as a preservative of some sort. If you allow the > 'glycerine' to flow out for about 2 minutes the beer then t

Re: [Goanet]Re: NEWS UPDATE - another Saddam mass grave found in Iraq

2005-05-13 Thread Mervyn Lobo
Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are > you aware that Clinton's failure to respond to the > series of attacks from WTC-I to Saudi Arabia, Kenya, > Uganda, Somalia and Yemen only emboldened them > leading directly to WTC-II on 9/11. Het Mario, Please try and get your facts right before

[Goanet]Re: NEWS UPDATE - another Saddam mass grave found in Iraq

2005-05-13 Thread Colin Britto
The author indulges in sycophantic fawning over the Bush administration - to him, it can do no wrong. Not even a single mistake... I must remind the audience that no one is infallible. One must ask: does the author keep a poster of the president and other members of the administration on his bedr

[Goanet]Re: CATHOLIC ???

2005-05-13 Thread George Pinto
--- Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We ought to shine a bright light on all harmful religious ideas and > practices. We ought to > recognize that religion does not necessarily make a person good. There are > many among the > pious and religious who have a sick and depraved mentality

[Goanet]NIRMALA SAWANT to contest as INDEPENDENT

2005-05-13 Thread godfrey gonsalves
The people of Goa were shocked to learn that Ms Nirmala Prabhakar Sawant ex MLA of 14- Cumbarjua Assembly Constituency, Tiswadi ex Minister for Power, ex-Goa Pradesh Congress Committee, President, a staunch loyalist, quit the Indian National Party on 11th May 2005 dealing the second stunning blow

[Goanet]Glycerine in Indian beer?

2005-05-13 Thread Cecil Pinto
Some twenty years back I saw this curious trick performed at a bar. Place your thumb to cover the top of a full beer bottle. Overturn it into a glass of water. Gently remove your thumb. After some time you will see a fine strain of golden liquid slowly appearing in the water. The guy who perfo

Re: [Goanet]Re: NEWS UPDATE - another Saddam mass grave found in Iraq

2005-05-13 Thread Mario Goveia
Colin Britto wrote: > The comments below are of the type "if you are against American intervention in Afghanistan and Iraq, then you are pro Saddam and Taliban". > > This is a very simplistic evaluation of world events. The author swallows the "with us or against us" and other facets of the doct

[Goanet]BJP Man seeks Gujarat probe!

2005-05-13 Thread Gabe Menezes
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4543177.stm Top BJP man seeks Gujarat probe A former governor of the Indian state of Gujarat has said the government there had failed to act quickly to control riots three years ago. Sunder Singh Bhandari told the BBC that the role of the state gove

Re: [Goanet]Re: NEWS UPDATE - another Saddam mass grave found in Iraq

2005-05-13 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 13/05/05, Colin Britto wrote: > The comments below are of the type "if you are against American intervention > in Afghanistan and Iraq, then you are pro Saddam and Taliban". > > This is a very simplistic evaluation of world events. The author swallows > the "with us or against us" and other f

[Goanet]Ritwik upsets top seed in Atlanta

2005-05-13 Thread Eustaquio Santimano
Ritwik upsets top seed in Atlanta May 13, 2005 16:54 IST India's Ritwik Bhattacharya created a flutter when he upset top seed Mohd. Essam Hafiz of Egypt in straight games to reach the quarter-finals of the Atlanta Open Squash championship. The former National champion, who also has four PSA to

[Goanet]Anju to defend Qatar long jump gold

2005-05-13 Thread Eustaquio Santimano
Anju to defend Qatar long jump gold May 12, 2005 18:56 IST World No. 6 Anju Bobby George will go up against Olympic champion Tatyana Lebedeva when she begins the new season defending her long jump title in the IAAF Super Athletics Grand Prix in Doha, Qatar, on Friday. The 28-year old Keralite,

[Goanet]Al-Ahed edge past Dempo

2005-05-13 Thread Eustaquio Santimano
Al-Ahed edge past Dempo May 11, 2005 19:39 IST A second half strike by substitute Hassan Maatouk helped Lebanese club Al-Ahed to edge past Dempo Sports Club by a solitary goal in a Group 'B' match of the AFC Cup in Margao, Goa, on Wednesday. Al-Ahed, who had territorial advantage throughout th

[Goanet]gulfnews.com: Poisonous spiders inject fear in residents

2005-05-13 Thread Percy Ferrao Ealing road
Percy Ferrao Ealing road spotted this article on http://www.gulfnews.com and thought you should see it. --- Note from Percy Ferrao Ealing road: --- --- To see this story with its photo and related link

[Goanet]Picnic Songs trivia

2005-05-13 Thread Cecil Pinto
Bernado Colaco wrote: The dulpod Undir Mujea Mama carries four verses. Some times additional lines are sung along for example: Ai ai maia ia. Ai lia lia lo. Ai lia lia lo Ai lia lia lia lia samba lia lo Could any netter advise on the meaning of the above. - Dear Bernado, "Undra Mujea Mama"

[Goanet]Rat my Uncle

2005-05-13 Thread Cecil Pinto
Oscar C. Lobo wrote: "Perhaps, resorts in general in Goa owned by Goans may be delegating the recruitment of entertainment to non- goan management. I would expect resorts or hotels run by non-goans to have such troupes in their hotel/resort management. - Dear Oscar, Last 'season' I have had din

[Goanet]India top group in Sudirman Cup

2005-05-13 Thread Eustaquio Santimano
India top group in Sudirman Cup May 12, 2005 17:59 IST India stayed on course for promotion in the next edition of World Mixed Team Badminton Championship, for the Sudirman Cup, when they thrashed Scotland 4-1 for their third successive victory in Group 3B, in Beijing, on Thursday. The India

Re: [Goanet](no subject)

2005-05-13 Thread rene barreto
Darren , My suggestion , keep focused in what you do. Do not get distracted in the side shows ! There are many who would like to see nothing good happen... rene --- Darren Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am enquiring as to who posted a comment relating > to goanparty.com in

[Goanet]Historical information on Vasco and Mormugao

2005-05-13 Thread Themistocles D'Silva
This message is on behalf of Fr. Nascimento Mascarenhas who is presently collecting information of historical importance on the twin cities of Vasco da Gama and Mormugao. If any of the old timers and historians happen to hold and cherish some old memories, such as photographs or documents, Fr. Nasc

Re: [Goanet]Re: CATHOLIC ???

2005-05-13 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- P D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Unbridled singling out of a single religious entity >is indicative of a sick and depraved mentality. While >encouraging free speech, Goanet Administration >should establish limits on religious bashing. Devout >Netters will otherwise be forced to quit instead

[Goanet]Goan youth in Canada's newspapers

2005-05-13 Thread Mervyn Lobo
Folks, Both Canada's national newspapers had pictures of Goans on their front pages yesterday. The Toronto Star had a picture and story about increased financial aid for college students, which included a picture and story of a Goan girl. The Globe and Mail had an article on minorities in the pol

[Goanet]SCAMS in Goa - Deterrence is the need of the hour

2005-05-13 Thread Goa Desc
- Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre Ph:2252660 Website: www.goadesc.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Press Clippings on the web: http://www.goadesc.org/mem/ -

[Goanet]Thanks For The Solidarity & Protection!

2005-05-13 Thread muriel & mario
To, The Governor, citizens and netizens of Goa worldwide. Your Excellency and my dear concerned citizens, I am back at home... This is just a short note to thank each of you for the timely intervention, support and solidarity when my wife Muriel and our 8 year old son, was threatened by Arjun

[Goanet]Music of Goa: from Ovi to Fred Disko

2005-05-13 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Goa Goa is a part of India, and has had historically closer connections with Western classical music than the rest of the country. Indigenous Goan music was incorporated into European music. Goa has also produced several pop stars, most famously including Re

Re: [Goanet]Re: CATHOLIC ???

2005-05-13 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 13/05/05, P D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Salus wrote: Have you given a thought that there may be many who actually > want > to read on subjects pertaining to religion? > > My reading of Sunil's (avertano teles) post was why do Goanetters > selectively pick on bashing Catholics? > > Could it

Re: [Goanet]WAR ON IRAQ

2005-05-13 Thread Colin Britto
(I have been one of the silent majority on Goanet, but I feel the need to speak out) As an American citizen, I fail to understand why the author does not realise that the reason the interim Iraqi govt has "asked the US troops to stay on" is because (drum roll) THEY HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE And wi

[Goanet]Re: Vivian's response

2005-05-13 Thread cornel
Hi Vivian, Many thanks for your reply. It was much appreciated. Two points only for now: I was not aware that shoemakers in Goa would be classified as "untouchables" in the prevailing caste system and I am not sure this might be right. Hopefully, someone might enlighten us on this particular poi

[Goanet]Fight! Fight!

2005-05-13 Thread Cecil Pinto
There's great arguments going on at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3AGoa about the history of Goa.

[Goanet]Re: CATHOLIC ???

2005-05-13 Thread P D
Salus wrote: Have you given a thought that there may be many who actually want to read on subjects pertaining to religion? My reading of Sunil's (avertano teles) post was why do Goanetters selectively pick on bashing Catholics? Could it be because Catholics simply roll over and turn the other

[Goanet]Here for the beer!

2005-05-13 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
http://www.thisisyork.co.uk/york/leisure/YORK_LEISURE_BARTALK0.html Thanks to http://www.goanvoice.org.uk for providing the link. FN Here for the beer! by Joshua Titley Gordon Campbell-Thomas who has travelled 7,000 miles for a pint of Yorkshire beer HOW far would you go for a pint of honest Yorks

[Goanet]UPDATE OF OUR AVIATION PERSPECTIVE

2005-05-13 Thread Philip Thomas
1. HERALD May 12: "Patel, Chowdhury favour lowering taxes on ATF". This represents one of the first known coordinated efforts to attack the high cost structure of Indian aviation as one is the civil aviation minister and the other is the tourism minister. Both plan to jointly meet the Finance Mini

[Goanet]Goenkars beware identity theft beyond the grave.

2005-05-13 Thread Gabe Menezes
http://www.gunaah.com/index.htm Dead men flying By Prashant Shankarnarayan Mumbai, May 12 Imagine?you have lived a major chunk of your life in your motherland. One fine day, you get an opportunity to leave for foreign shores, to earn a livelihood or maybe to simply roam around. You approach the co

[Goanet]Is it ethical to buy second hand clothes that were sent as aid?

2005-05-13 Thread Cecil Pinto
I would like to thank all of those who responded to my query on this subject. Thanks to all the information and opinions I have now decided that it is perfectly ethical to buy such clothes. Cecil

[Goanet]Undir mujea mama chim utram!

2005-05-13 Thread Bernado Colaco
The dulpod Undir Mujea Mama carries four verses. Some times additional lines are sung along for example: Ai ai maia ia. Ai lia lia lo. Ai lia lia lo Ai lia lia lia lia samba lia lo Could any netter advise on the meaning of the above. Kind regards B. Colaco __

[Goanet]Vivian's quote from Sir Walter Scott's Lay of the Last Minstrel

2005-05-13 Thread Cecil Pinto
(Canto Sixth) Breathes there the man with soul so dead Who never to himself hath said, This is my own, my native land! Whose heart hath ne'er within him burned, As home his footsteps he hath turned From wandering on a foreign strand! If such there breathe, go, mark him well; For him no minstrel rap

Re: [Goanet]Wendell Rodricks lament and Cornell;s view point.

2005-05-13 Thread Gabriel de Figueiredo
--- Vivian D'Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > cement your nostalgic ties to Goa > by > buying a piece of Goa etc. And do something for > Goa, > be it your church, your temple, your masjid, your > village. A very sensible suggestion. Cheers, Gabriel de Figueiredo. Melbourne - Australia. F