[Goanet]CITISTATE THINKING: THE CRUX OF THE PROBLEM

2005-07-12 Thread Philip Thomas
Today's HERALD had an interesting op-ed article by Joseph Zuzarte titled Changing face of Goa. He says: .. the state has burgeoned into a sprawling urban settlement with even tarred roads in the most remote areas.. He adds: The mindsets of the people however would not seem to have changed

[Goanet]Pietro's Goenchea Puta Re!

2005-07-12 Thread jerry fernandes
Hello Goanetters, Its the most wonderful news that Bonaventure D'Pietro, has come out with a konkani album. I congratulate him for his work. I have been his fan during my younger days, read most of his books and now I pray that he creates waves in the music world too. With our konkani music

Re: [Goanet]Afraid

2005-07-12 Thread Mario Goveia
--- David Futers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am afraid. Yes Afraid, not of bombs in London but of posting any thing slightly controversial on this forum. Mario replies: Now, now, David. That wasn't a very nice thing to say. After all, our bombs are only filled with hot air.

[Goanet]The true face of Islamo-fascism

2005-07-12 Thread Mario Goveia
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/050712/1/3tfgc.html The article above shows the merciless Islamo-fascism the Europeans are faced with, after appeasing radical Muslims for decades. I'd like to see the terrorist sympathisers Mervyn, Fred, Gabe and Cornel trying to blame this incident on George Bush or

Re: [Goanet]Re: Al Qaeda in Europe.

2005-07-12 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 11/07/05, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Besides, putting an abusive poster on my spam list does not prevent me from reading their drivel in the archives, or their most egregious posts being forwarded to me by others. What a bunch of

Fwd: Re: [Goanet]Everone is an economic migrant, except retirees

2005-07-12 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many Goans, also migrate, not for economic reasons. Many Doctor's, engineers etc move for better facilities and better to further themselves with more insight and the scope to learn more. Many Goans from the U.K. have moved to Portugal and/or

[Goanet]Re: economic migrant

2005-07-12 Thread cornel
Mario, I have not followed the 'economic migrant' debate closely for lack of time. However, I think that Gabe has a point that, following the political change in East Africa when Independence became a reality in the early 1960s, most Goans from there moved out. Some were forced out abruptly,

Re: [Goanet]Typical Goan 'XIRAP' - gender bias?

2005-07-12 Thread Vincent Andrade
Good Morning Cecil...! We must accept the fact that Our Indian Society (Goan Included) thinks as follows : 1. If a Woman sleeps with TEN Men she is likened to a prostitute (kolvont mure tem..!, sogleanim kaloilam mure teka...!) 2. If a Man sleeps with TEN Women he is likened to a Hero (Pezad

Re: [Goanet]My experience with your organization

2005-07-12 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Louise goanet@goanet.org wrote: So far, All the messages I have received appear to be from people venting their aggressions on this site. I am starting to think I made a mistake by venturing here. Please tell me I'm wrong and there are some friendly discussions here. Mario replies:

Re: [Goanet]economic migrant

2005-07-12 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- Joe Vaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Nowadays we are forced to accept anything from Santosh; -- one day he is 'migrant skilled laborer' another day a 'scientific migrant'. A migrant scientist like me is a migrant skilled laborer. Cheers, Santosh

[Goanet]After 9 pm what? Take a hard ride

2005-07-12 Thread jerry fernandes
Hello Goanetters Some time back there was discussion on this forum regarding some programs being held like jazz and there was no much crowd for them, that’s when I had written about this. Its really sad that those with no vehicle even if they want to go for such programs have to drop the idea

[Goanet]USAF hiding in bunkers under their bed!

2005-07-12 Thread Gabe Menezes
Who is hiding under the bed now ? The Brave Americans show no fear? At every turn a slam dunk, 17 emails on Goanet in one session, give us a break man, please. The following link gives information of the USAF in the Home Counties, (England) they have huge Air Bases here. They have been given a

[Goanet]Information required

2005-07-12 Thread Sushma Pawar
Sir, I am regular reader of your website. I find your website very interesting and I am glad that I can go through the Goa news. Sir, I will be thankful if you either give me the details of Archive if there is any, regarding the caste and the occupation that these caste community are

[Goanet]Re: Religion Bashing?

2005-07-12 Thread afra dias
Dear Goanetters,  gilbertlaw said to Fred: 'If you are serious about addressing the issue of disparity and victims of bias, there are better ways. And there are also more productive ways to help society overcome inequities rather than playing one group against another. No one has done more

[Goanet]Script issue takes centrestage at Konkani meet

2005-07-12 Thread jerry fernandes
Hello Goanetters Its high time some decision is taken on this subject. Uloitat tednam sogle Romani ulloitat, but when it comes to reading why impose the devanagri. In the end I pray that the Romani wins this tug of war going on in our mankulem goem. Cheers Jerry Fernandes Script issue takes

[Goanet]Afraid

2005-07-12 Thread David Futers
I am afraid. Yes Afraid, not of bombs in London but of posting any thing slightly controversial on this forum. I have always found Goa to be a friendly place. Reading this forum would not give you that impression. Its about time you all grew up and acted like responsible citizens and treat

[Goanet]The Dementia Society of Goa.

2005-07-12 Thread rene barreto
Please visit : The Dementia Society of Goa website at : www.dementiagoa.org === rene barreto www.goaday.com GOAN SOLIDARITY DAY - 20th of August 2005 = __

Re: [Goanet]economic migrant

2005-07-12 Thread Joe Vaz
On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 - Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Salus Correia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well Gabe, the subject and issue aside, I firmly believe that every Goan who is out of Goa is an economic migrant, and that includes you, whether you say or believe otherwise.

Re: [Goanet]economic migrants

2005-07-12 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- Salus Correia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's some 'higher education'!!! Please explain yourself. And why, pray why, did you have to migrate for a 'higher education'? Because the type of higher education I was seeking was not available in India. Eventually, it all ends up in

[Goanet]Why call them innuendos when they are apparently LIES?

2005-07-12 Thread jose colaco
This is a response to a post allegedly from: Joe Vaz [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I do not intend to respond again to this UNLESS Joe Vaz reviews and corrects what I believe his MisRepresentations. I am neither interested in ducking and swerving - nor in one-upmanship. Joe Vaz has accused Santosh

Re: [Goanet]How will the left wingers spin this?

2005-07-12 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 11/07/05, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario replies: Thus spake the brave alleged RAF ex-serviceman, RESPONSE: The man has lost it, he confirms that I was an ex serviceman than in another post he claims he has his doubts! The man continues to embarrass himself, he has all but

Re: [Goanet]Troops to quit Iraq!

2005-07-12 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 11/07/05, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For example, last week he blamed Tony Blair for the bombings in London and praises London Mayor's appeasement of the most radical Imams as a good thing. RESPONSE: I have never praised Ken Livingston's stance, show me where I have done this. I

Re: [Goanet]Economic migrant

2005-07-12 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 11/07/05, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gabe.. blaming any and everyone but the Islamo-fascists for the cowardly attack on innocent civilians last week. RESPONSE: The man continues to persist, in his abuse of the People belonging to Islam. Fred has shown him his folly,

[Goanet]My experience with your organization

2005-07-12 Thread Louise
I joined this group so I could: a. Learn more about Goa and Goans (Having lived away from Goa most of my life) b. Meet some nice friendly Goans Male and Female (I'm married and not looking for U.S. Passport) c. Have friendly discussions on topics relevant to Goans in Goa and away. So far, All

[Goanet]The shameful bias of the BBC

2005-07-12 Thread Mario Goveia
http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/07/12/nbbc12.xml What did my Israeli friend warn about after the London attacks? Here the left-wing BBC cannot bring itself to call a spade a spade, joining some of our intrepid terrorist sympathisers and appeasers on GX. An excerpt

[Goanet]Wake up call for Bosco

2005-07-12 Thread Mario Goveia
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apcanada_story.asp?category=1101slug=Border%20Canada%20Terror%20Groups Bosco, Click on the link above for a current assessment of the threat from terrorists in Canada. I hope you don't think the Canadian Security Intelligence Service is knocking Canada. I

Re: [Goanet]Why so many....???

2005-07-12 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Seb dc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like goanet is being bombarded by people who have nothing else to do:-) Just for the records...Today i received quite a number of emails(lost the count by now)out of which Mario Goviea had sent...16(-.-) Mario replies: Unlike you, honest

Re: [Goanet]Re: Canada - Terrorist Haven by Stephen Brown

2005-07-12 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Bosco D'Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are you trying to sensationalize now with an article from December 2002 ?? We don't need to disparage Stephen Brown as you did Haroon Siddiquinevertheless .. Mario replies: You can try to disparage Stephen Brown, which would mean

[Goanet]Goans, GoaNet and caste

2005-07-12 Thread Cecil Pinto
Viviana wrote: Cecil - as usual you have managed to find humor in any situation. My only question is this: If caste can be ascertained by name and village, why is there ever a need to mention it? - Dear Viviana, According to Frederick Noronha, who is very interested in such things, caste

[Goanet]'Re' - suffix

2005-07-12 Thread Cecil Pinto
Luis Rodrigues wrote: Are you especially against Males only and have a very corner in your heart for Females? Then why all your xirap ends with RE??? Would you please specify?? -- Dear Luis, Interestingly a few months back a rather pro-casteist Cyber Goan wrote to me rather

[Goanet]New rules for GoaNet poster identification - Unofficial

2005-07-12 Thread Cecil Pinto
A few comments on the new Identification Protocol: Viviana describes herself as Viviana F/??/C/H MWF Dear Viviana, Please mention your surname in future. Age is compulsory, but cheating on one's age is allowed, and in fact expected of females. Many of our female subscribers have

[Goanet]Goanet News Bytes In Brief * July 12, 2005 * PSI's house raided in anti-corruption drive

2005-07-12 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
--- G o a n e t * News Bytes In Brief * July 12, 2005 --- o Police sub-inspector Jivba Dalvi has been suspended after his residence was raided by the Anti-Corruption

Re: [Goanet]Damaneses and Diuenses? Linguistically correct?

2005-07-12 Thread Jorge/Livia de Abreu Noronha
In Portuguese it is Goeses, Damanenses e Diuenses; in English Goans, Damanese and Diuese; in our own Konkani Goenkar, Damanvkar ani Diukar. Does anybody disagree? Jorge - Original Message - From: Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July

Re: [Goanet]Economic migration, personal experience...

2005-07-12 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish more overseas Goans would relate their personal experience while, and reasons for, migrating so we can truly understand the process and the underlying motives - rather than just depend on vague generalisations and anonymous statistics.

[Goanet]Goans, GoaNet and Caste

2005-07-12 Thread Cecil Pinto
Victor Rangel-Ribeiro wrote to Viviana's query: I would have liked to have responded to your query but did not quite know how. Since I have never believed in caste, I had to believe that anybody I married was essentially casteless; the question of whethere I had married outside my caste

[Goanet]Goans, GoaNet and Caste

2005-07-12 Thread Cecil Pinto
Frederick Noronha wrote: Vivian(a)'s response to Cecil's post drew my attention to something I had not noticed earlier on Goanet. Cecil's reference is obvious to my earlier averment that asking the Where are you *from*? question is often another way of establishing your caste identity in Catholic

Re: [Goanet]We don't have to comment on everything, or reply to every single person...

2005-07-12 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Frederick Noronha (FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last night, while doing moderation duties before going to sleep, I was surprised to find that a single Goanetter had sent in 17 different messages for approval! Please let's take turns in speaking out, even if e-mail is an asynchronous

[Goanet]Economic migration, personal experience...

2005-07-12 Thread Cecil Pinto
Kevin Saldanha wrote: In the ongoing debate about economic migration and the choice of one's homeland... I remember the time when I was getting married (to a childhood sweetheart with whom a mature relationship was rekindled while she was visiting from Canada ... without resorting to

Re: [Goanet]RE:Typical Goan 'XIRAP'

2005-07-12 Thread lino dourado
Luis bab, Kavlleache XIRAP ghorak lago nant. lino * --- luis rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe, Are you especially against Males only and have a very corner in your heart for Females? Then why all your xirap ends with RE??? Would you please

[Goanet]Typical Goan 'XIRAP' III (Female only)

2005-07-12 Thread JoeGoaUk
sorry guys, I was to come up with female only Part III , here it is... TUM ANKVAR URON GO TUKA NOUREAN SODDUN GO TUM SAT BHAIMCHEM UDOK PIUNKUCH UROM GO TUM TOXENCH BIATULL OR BIATIN UROM GO TUM BIAK UROM GO TUKA PIXAM SUNNEAN GHANS MARUN MOROM GO TUKA SASMAIN LISAO XINKOILEA PURO GO TUM

Re: [Goanet]FEATURE: Pereiras, Gonsalves make it to Bollywood

2005-07-12 Thread Edward Verdes
(FN) wrote:Pereiras, Gonsalves make it to Bollywood *The Pereiras, Gonsalves in Bandra are mostly East Indians. There are a few goans, most of them on the western side. Some of the East Indians can understand n speak konkani as its somewhat colse to Marathi. East Indians used to come for the

[Goanet]Why so many....???

2005-07-12 Thread Seb dc
Looks like goanet is being bombarded by people who have nothing else to do:-) Just for the records...Today i received quite a number of emails(lost the count by now)out of which Mario Goviea had sent 16(-.-) Anyway happy reading... Seb PS: Have to use DEL key more often than not.

Re: [Goanet]Its Confirmed: Call Goa/India from UK

2005-07-12 Thread Edward Verdes
Her poixe moddunk imteponna korina..Gulfantle Goemcar aple familik,horran phone kortat, kitleo minuteo zaleo ani kitle poixe zale tem poina...:) (KSA its RS. 34/- per min - off peak around Rs. 28/- ) Edward Verdes Chinchinim/KSA JoeGoaUk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Englandkaranchem or Londonkaranchem

[Goanet]Damanense and Diuense

2005-07-12 Thread Mafalda Mascarenhas
Accordingly with the Portuguese dictionary from Porto Editora (2001), damanense is, I quote: “adjectivo 2 generos - referente a Damao, territorio do antigo Estado Portugues da India; substantivo 2 generos - natural ou habitante de Damao; (De Damao, top. + -ense)” and diuense is, I quote again

[Goanet]RE:Typical Goan 'XIRAP'

2005-07-12 Thread luis rodrigues
Joe, Are you especially against Males only and have a very corner in your heart for Females? Then why all your xirap ends with RE??? Would you please specify?? Regards ani mojoi tuka xirap re, Luis Rodrigues Chimbel / Dubai

Re: [Goanet]We don't have to comment on everything, or reply to every single person...

2005-07-12 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 12/07/05, Frederick Noronha (FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another request: please stop a debate after 2 or 3 exchanges, as any discussion which goes on and on and on tends to disinterest most readers, and instead could end up irritating them. Just a request, FN RESPONSE: I have taken

[Goanet]FRIDAY BALCAO:Inclusive Education - making it feasible in Goa

2005-07-12 Thread Goa Desc
- Welcome to the FRIDAY BALCAO Read the Balcao Synopsis on the website http://www.goadesc.org/balcao/ -- Dear Cybergaokars on GoaNet, We continue with FRIDAY BALCAO on 22nd July from 4pm. to

[Goanet]State of the Goa Police - 1

2005-07-12 Thread Goa Desc
-- Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre Ph:2252660 Website: www.goadesc.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Press Clippings on the web: http://www.goadesc.org/mem/

[Goanet]We don't have to comment on everything, or reply to every single person...

2005-07-12 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
Last night, while doing moderation duties before going to sleep, I was surprised to find that a single Goanetter had sent in 17 different messages for approval! Please let's take turns in speaking out, even if e-mail is an asynchronous mode of communication (meaning, many people can communicate

[Goanet]400 mobile (and other) phone numbers

2005-07-12 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
This noon, while talking to Goa Today editor Vinayak Naik, he mentioned that he had 'stored' some 400 mobile (and other) phone numbers in his memory. Numbers of almost anyone related to Goa Today, he told me. As an owner of an (old) Nokia handset, which complains after the limit of 124

[Goanet]Re: Canada - Terrorist Haven by Stephen Brown

2005-07-12 Thread Bosco D'Mello
On Tue Jul 12 00:04:51 2005 wrote: The article below should be compared with other propaganda emanating from some of our Canadian Goanetters who are sympathetic to the Islamo-fascist cause: http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=5007 RESPONSE: What are you trying to

[Goanet]SMT. THERESA FERNANDES MEMORIAL CHARITABLE TRUST

2005-07-12 Thread Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com
http://www.goa-world.com/goa/smtmem/ SMT. THERESA FERNANDES MEMORIAL CHARITABLE TRUST Regn. Bom. Public Trust 1950 No. E0700 (DWR) 29.9.1997 Address: Morning Star, Koppadkere, Dharwad - 580008, Karnataka (India) Tel: (836) 2742690 / 2442141

[Goanet]Re: Goa Branch of National Association for the Blind

2005-07-12 Thread SANDRA GORDON
I would be interested to learn more about the Goan branch of the National Association for the Blind, as mentioned in the Goa Net News Bytes (11 July 2005) The reason I ask is because I work for a local charity working with blind adults and children here in Scotland, and I would be most

[Goanet]TSKK Roman Orthography

2005-07-12 Thread Thomas Stephens Konknni Kendr
THOMAS STEPHENS KONKNNI KENDR B.B. Borkar Road, Alto Porvorim, GOA – 403521 * (0832) 2415857, 2415864 E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Website:www.tskk.org July 11, 2005 Sir, Kindly give publicity to the following press release. TSKK Roman Orthography The written tradition of Konkani begins only in the

[Goanet]opposition to land acquisation in cuncolim

2005-07-12 Thread armstrong augusto vaz
Our representative Cuncolim July 11;- government plans to acquire paddy field around the historical St Francis Xavier chapel at maddicotto , cuncolim bazaar has run into opposition from residents of the locality , land owners, the St Francis Xavier chapel committee and the parish priest of our