[Goanet]CAFETERIA CATHOLICS, CHURCH PRIESTS…

2005-05-03 Thread Joe Vaz
This controversial thread has been painstakingly one of the lengthiest and—with no apparent end in sight —is by far boring readers to death. Has it added any value to Goanet/GoaNetters? Wonder whether we have run out on “meaningful” issues or ideas to discuss that would in essence be

Re: [Goanet] Cafeteria Catholics (Reply to Santosh)

2005-05-02 Thread Nasci Caldeira
From: Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] Cafeteria Catholics (Reply to Santosh) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 15:20:18 -0700 (PDT) --- Nasci Caldeira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Santosh: If marriage reveals the truth of the true human nature, then why are people who choose to remain

Re: [Goanet] Cafeteria Catholics (Reply to Santosh)

2005-05-02 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- Nasci Caldeira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Santosh: If marriage reveals the truth of the true human nature, then why are people who choose to remain unmarried for life considered to be sick? Nasci: Who says that unmarried men are sick? I am sorry. I made a typing error, and left out a NOT

[Goanet]Cafeteria Catholics: Gay Priests (part I)

2005-05-02 Thread gilbertlaw
I am not too knowledgeable to discuss this issue from a theological, sociological or from a medical perspective. Of course I could lagao bhathi like some of the posts. So that I can learn, I hope the posters are strict about the problem they are trying to argue or post about. Mervyn's past

Re: [Goanet] Cafeteria Catholics - Nasci

2005-05-02 Thread Nasci Caldeira
From: Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] Cafeteria Catholics - Nasci Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 23:01:20 -0700 (PDT) Unfortunately, there is absolutely no scientific basis for anything that Fr. Ivo has said about homosexuality. Please see my response to his post, and please don't

Re: [Goanet] Cafeteria Catholics - Nasci

2005-05-01 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- Nasci Caldeira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Santosh, I think you yourself is in dire need of neuro surgery; better this way then banging your 'science only' saturated head on a rock. Science does not and cannot disprove what Fr Ivo and countless others have said before. Unfortunately, there

Re: [Goanet] Cafeteria Catholics

2005-05-01 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- Fr. Ivo Da C. Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Homosexuality is against human nature. Human being is complete in male and female. Biologically, psychologically, spiritually, emotionally we experience this truth based on human nature itself, not on antiquated religious dogma. Marriage reveals

Re: [Goanet] Cafeteria Catholics – Gays

2005-05-01 Thread Santosh Helekar
Mervyn Lobo wrote: Unfortunately, for the past 10 years, the Vatican has been extremely slow in addressing the problem of gays and paedophiles in its ranks. It is inappropriate to compare gays with pedophiles, and state that gays are a problem. Homosexuality in consenting adults is a

[Goanet]Cafeteria Catholics and Cafeteria Goans

2005-04-28 Thread gilbertlaw
Hi Bosco: Here are some responses to many points raised in several posts. I reply to one logic (train of thought) and the other zings me from a different direction. Usually your posts are pretty sensible and unlike other posts there is consistency i.e.. rarely do they talk from sides of the

Re: [Goanet] Cafeteria Catholics women priests

2005-04-27 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 27/04/05, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gabe, So, are YOU one of the chosen ones? Chosen by whom, may I ask? And what is all this curious gibberish about followings and followers and honest biddings? I think I am an Angel's Advocate. The Devil, and some of his followers,

Re: [Goanet] Cafeteria Catholics women priests

2005-04-27 Thread Mario Goveia
Gabe, So, are YOU one of the chosen ones? Chosen by whom, may I ask? And what is all this curious gibberish about followings and followers and honest biddings? I think I am an Angel's Advocate. The Devil, and some of his followers, should be terrified of me, as you also seem to be. --- Gabe

Re: [Goanet] Cafeteria Catholics women priests

2005-04-26 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 26/04/05, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fr. Ivo, Argh! You are a good man, and I read through your entire epistle, but I did not find the answer to the one burning question on the minds of this forum: Why does the Catholic Church not permit women priests? Please, oh

Re: [Goanet] Cafeteria Catholics

2005-04-26 Thread Mervyn Lobo
Fr. Ivo Da C. Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3. Do you believe homosexuality is evil? Homosexuality is an aberration. It is abnormal. Father Ivo, I have a quick question. Should there be homosexual Catholic priests? Mervyn3.0

Re: [Goanet] Cafeteria Catholics

2005-04-26 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- P D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course, there will always be tricksters, like in Biblical times. With the help of the Holy Spirit the Roman Catholic Church shall triumph over the forces of darkness. Are True Catholics supposed to demonize people who disagree with them by calling them names

Re: [Goanet] Cafeteria Catholics women priests

2005-04-26 Thread Mario Goveia
Fr. Ivo, Argh! You are a good man, and I read through your entire epistle, but I did not find the answer to the one burning question on the minds of this forum: Why does the Catholic Church not permit women priests? Please, oh please, give us your insider's view of why. There are entire

Re: [Goanet] Cafeteria Catholics

2005-04-26 Thread Fr. Ivo Da C. Souza
I am neither a cafeteria Catholic, nor a fundamentalist, and try to answer the following questions, which came up in the Goanet, with the light that I have received from my study and experience. But the answers will be brief. When opportunity offers, I shall elaborate the points. 1. Do you see

Re: [Goanet] Cafeteria Catholics and Cafeteria Goans

2005-04-25 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish I could remember the name of a famous Brit philosopher, a lifelong proactive atheist, who turned 80 recently, who was moved to publicly announce that he had finally concluded that there was a higher being because he could find no other explanation

Re: [Goanet]Cafeteria Catholics and Cafeteria Goans

2005-04-25 Thread Edward Verdes
On the lighter side...Cafeteria Catholic Goans are the ones who enter the 'Cafeteria Xannu' to have a cup of tea, as the Padr Vigar starts his sermon for Sunday Mass :) Regards Eddie Verdes

Re: [Goanet] Cafeteria Catholics - Correction!

2005-04-24 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 8. Do you believe all human beings alive today are sinners because their original male ancestor, thousands of years ago, had sex with his solitary female companion? Please forgive me for using a non-standard (apocryphal?) sexual interpretation

Re: [Goanet] Cafeteria Catholics and Cafeteria Goans

2005-04-24 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One could say being a fanatic or as you may like to put it fundamentalist is precisely what being cafeteria all about. Selecting just one aspect of life just to scream and fight over is what cafeteria is all about. Goans are good about this Gilbert, Please

[Goanet]Cafeteria Catholics and Cafeteria Goans

2005-04-24 Thread gilbertlaw
Santosh, Being a non-cafeteria Catholic or a non-cafeteria Goan does not make one a fanatic. There is nothing wrong with being and staying married and going to Sunday Church. There is something wrong with being divorced. Ask the kids. One could say being a fanatic or as you may like to put it

[Goanet]Cafeteria Catholics and Cafeteria Goans

2005-04-24 Thread gilbertlaw
GL responds Thanks for the reference. But it should not prevent you from authoring about cafeteria Goans.:=)) Regards Gabe: RESPONSE: It is not my handiwork and I sincerely apologise for not having given the URL, Here it is:- http://www.concernedcatholics.org/cafeteria.htm Gilbert: Thoroughly

Re: [Goanet] Cafeteria Catholics and Cafeteria Goans

2005-04-24 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- Alfred de Tavares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My dear Santosh, Samir and other naughty boys that hounded him out of our sublime intellectual fora. The multi-proferred Nobel-laureate, Dr. et al Leo Rebello. Dear Alfredchacha, I am assuming that you are bringing up leo rebello's name in

Re: [Goanet]Cafeteria Catholics and Cafeteria Goans

2005-04-23 Thread Mario Goveia
Is there anyone out there who is NOT a cafeteria Catholic at some level? Just curious. --- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 23/04/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gabe Thoroughly enjoyed your post on Cafeteria Catholics. I normally shrink the post I respond to,

Re: [Goanet] Cafeteria Catholics and Cafeteria Goans

2005-04-23 Thread Alfred de Tavares
From: Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org To: goanet@goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] Cafeteria Catholics and Cafeteria Goans Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 22:55:14 -0700 (PDT) --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thoroughly enjoyed your post on Cafeteria Catholics. I normally shrink

Re: [Goanet]Cafeteria Catholics and Cafeteria Goans

2005-04-23 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 23/04/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gabe Thoroughly enjoyed your post on Cafeteria Catholics. I normally shrink the post I respond to, but in this excellent post, I kept it intact for the cyber Goans to read it aniek time. Atan upkar kor (please do us a favor) can

Re: [Goanet] Cafeteria Catholics and Cafeteria Goans

2005-04-23 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thoroughly enjoyed your post on Cafeteria Catholics. I normally shrink the post I respond to, but in this excellent post, I kept it intact for the cyber Goans to read it aniek time. The implication of this thread, and presumably the notion that Cafetaria

[Goanet]Cafeteria Catholics and Cafeteria Goans

2005-04-22 Thread gilbertlaw
Hi Gabe Thoroughly enjoyed your post on Cafeteria Catholics. I normally shrink the post I respond to, but in this excellent post, I kept it intact for the cyber Goans to read it aniek time. Atan upkar kor (please do us a favor) can you write a post on Cafeteria Goans? :=)) Regards, GL Gabe

[Goanet]Cafeteria Catholics.

2005-04-20 Thread Gabe Menezes
CAFETERIA CATHOLICS (Q): What is a Cafeteria Catholic? (A): Cafeteria Catholics are those who pick and choose what doctrines they want to follow and what doctrines they want to ignore. They do not have any respect for the authority of the Catholic church. The guidelines of the church are