On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:05:27 +0530, "Ivor D'Cunha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Dear Goan Netters
This is to inform youll about the Abu Dhabi(UAE) Airport Magazine which is
published every 2 months, this month there is a quiz about Goa with a small
write up and 2 pictures one of Anjuna beach and on
Seems to me that the Pic used in the Dubai promotion of Goa was perhaps the
same one that is banded around the Globe. As it is, I agree with those who
oppose it. The tourist promotion authorities in Goa should point out this
anomaly to the perpetrators. Check out the link below as well ! Yahoo ?
wh
To All Goan Netters
Much has been talked about the Article I wrote, first of all I would like to
thank to those who supported me and Secondly I would like to repeat it again
for those who were not clear about it.
This is a feature about Goa (titled Discover Goa) which has appeared in Abu
Dha
Seems to me that the Pic used in the Dubai promotion of Goa was perhaps the
same one that is banded around the Globe. As it is, I agree with those who
oppose it. The tourist promotion authorities in Goa should point out this
anomaly to the perpetrators. Check out the link below as well ! Yah
Money is what makes the mare to goand some people will do anything for
money. The story is no different in Goa's tourism. We have put concrete and
security guards on our beaches and have kept them out-of-bounds for our
children..so that the tourists can enjoy them at leisure. Goans are
gett
Eddie Fernandes is right!
Anyone who has elementary knowledge of the Indian demography knows the woman
in the picture is neither Goan, nor Rajasthani nor a Kashmiri.
She's a Lamani migrant.
The caption is patently wrong and offensive to call her a native of Goa. It
must be corrected immediatel
All along last two weeks I was bombared with emails on this topic. They were
just rick-rocketting from all across. And all it really reminded me was a
part of what I had posted early which I am clipping in again below.
Exactly the same thing happened (and is happening always) instead of taking
a
Hi,
I remember the controversy over the Air India calender mentioned by Rene
Barreto as I happened to be in Goa during that period (1988-89). It was not
that the calender cheapened the image of Goan women, but it described Goans
as "descendents of the Portuguese!"
I recall condemning the callo
Very well noted and explained,I for one wouldn't know
whether you are based in Abu dhabi(UAE)and how did you
come across this picture,which is not the question
here but the main concern is what are the goenkars in
abu Dhabi doing , hasn't it caught their eye.
Shall be grateful if it could be scanne
http://www.nealpinto.com
--- On Fri 11/28, =?iso-8859-1?q?vivek=20araujo?= < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?vivek=20araujo?= [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:23:15 + (GMT)
Subject: Re: [Goanet]INSU
> Dear Goan Netters
>
> This is to inform youll about the Abu Dhabi(UAE)
> Airport Magazine which is
> published every 2 months, this month there is a quiz
> about Goa with a small
> write up and 2 pictures one of Anjuna beach and one
> of
> a non-Goan lady(either
> Rajastani or Kashmiri). Lot of
The claim that a picture of rajasthani women on an
article about Goa somehow debases Goa, its culture and
its people is pure nonesense which is probably laced
with a tinge of xenophobia.
The Anjuna flea market (which has a lot of vendors
from Rajasthan, Kashmir etc) has become an integral
part of
rajasthani and kashmiri etc, vendors being in goa,
does not automatically make them an integral part of
Goa's touristic landscape. Goan people and Goan
vendors are enough to promote Goa overseas.
No doubt we are friendly, and because of this too
cossy friendliness attitude we require vendors from
Folks,
It would appear that an article in an Abu Dhabi (UAE) Airport magazine
(duty-free catalogue?) has upset a few people, who, as far as one can tell,
have not seen the publication. Evidently, the picture of "a non-Goan lady
(either Rajastani or Kashmiri)" "gives a cheap image about us,"
Last time I checked, Goa does have the largest
concentration of bars in India. I have also witnessed
far more episodes of drunkardness amongst Goans than
within the average Indian population. Whether my
cursory observations are statistically significant, I
cant say. BTW, can Vivek give us a list o
What other groups do, say extremists as mentioned by
Mr. Marlon to the extent of preserving thier pure
culture is upto them, each community has a different
way of preserving things, what is food for one may be
poison for other. The other extremists are unique in
their own way be it good or bad and
Everyone has a right to defend and comment on this
advert, but I would congratulate Ivor for his
awareness on such adverts keep it up.
Vivek
--- Eddie Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote: > Folks,
>
> It would appear that an article in an Abu Dhabi
> (UAE) Airport magazine
> (duty-free catal
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Goanet]INSULT TO GOANS
> Everyone has a right to defend and comment on this
> advert, but I would congratulate Ivor for his
> awareness on such adverts keep it up.
>
> Vivek
>
> --- Eddie Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
It is interesting that Nasci, Ivor et al who live as
immigrants and migrants outside India, choose to
engage in questionable attacks against migrants and
their "cheap culture".
Vivek in his comments below even seems to rationlize
the methods used by exremists like the sh*t sena when
he says "each
Marlon,
There is no hatred towards non-goans,neither did i for
one mention about any article, tillnow I am still
mentioning about the photograph which should have had
a goan pictured in a goan attire.You should not judge
others in a negative way without understanding themain
subject matter of the
esponses.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Eddie Fernandes
>
>
> --
> - Original Message -
> From: "vivek araujo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, December 01
n all
faculties by leaps and bounds.
I am proud of being a Goan Indian in genes type and culture.
Nasci Caldeira
From: Marlon Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Goanet]INSULT TO GOANS
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:51:52 -0800 (PST)
It is intere
- Original Message -
From: "vivek araujo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Goanet]INSULT TO GOANS
> Dear Mr. Eddie Fernandes,
>
> Mr. Ivor did fwd.a pic. of a raj
and are very
> popular subjects for photographs?
>
>
>
> 5. Does your presence in Uganda demean and insult
> the local people?
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Eddie
>
> ====
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "
From: "vivek araujo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Thanks eddie for your interest in my letter, look
> forward for some more questions.
Dear Vivek,
You have me well & truly beaten!
It is not fruitful to pursue discussion with someone with such obviously
ingrained prejudices and hypocrisy.
Cheers
Just jumping in . . .
re: "that a pic was published of a rajasthani/kashmiri with the background
picture of one of the GOAN beach, . . . "
seems to have outraged some on this forum.
Would the same sense of outrage be expressed if there was a white woman
shown on the beach?
Just curious.
Tim
--- Tim de Mello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just jumping in . . .
>
> re: "that a pic was published of a rajasthani/kashmiri with the background
> picture of one of the GOAN beach, . . . "
>
> seems to have outraged some on this forum.
>
> Would the same sense of outrage be expressed if the
.
Nasci Caldeira.
From: "Tim de Mello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Goanet]INSULT TO GOANS
Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 13:07:02 -0500
Just jumping in . . .
re: "that a pic was published of a rajasthani/kashmiri with th
An opinion should not differ because he/she/it/they
are white,neither an opinion can change because of the
colour, and where is it laid down that if one is white
you are a superior race and above the law?if you say
an x black person is a thief or y brown person did
something wrong , would you charg
Dear Mr. Eddie,
We are on two different continents, I am to believe if
we goans get united in GOA the entire political system
and the goan infrastructure can be changed, this
discussion of the outfit is very petty to waste time
on, the very words if mentioned to me if it was
something to do with t
> >From: "Tim de Mello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Would the same sense of outrage be expressed if
> there was a white woman
> >shown on the beach?
A White wOmAn on a GoAn BeAcH potrays tourism in
Goa...
ThE Rajasthani & Kashimiris depict "the vendors on the
beach"
Tell me... would a get Goan
Tim,
No one is blaming the rajasthanis/kashmiris, from the
inception Mr. Ivor had stated very clearly that he is
going to take this issue up, which he has done it very
well now with the authorities and has explained it
too. You must read it tim, you seem to have missed
something what you are menti
Right from theinception the issue was about the
caption being wrong and offensive, some went to the
extent of extremisim of some culture blah
blah..and now it has been sealed off that it was
indeed wrong.
Kudos to all those Goans I stress G O E N K A R S for
showing their concern on this capt
t? :))
Neal Pinto
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http://www.nealpinto.com
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--- On Sat 12/06, Radhakrishnan Nair < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
From: Radhakrishnan Nair [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 11:24:58 +0530
Sub
Right Neal! And didn't someone (Eddie?) write that the authorities should
apologize to this beautiful woman (with great jewelry that I very much
covet) for calling her Goan!?
Has anyone noticed the irony of all these men up in arms defending the
identify of Goan women? Reminds me of the time when
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http://www.nealpinto.com
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--- On Sun 12/07, Helga do Rosario Gomes < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
From: Helga do Rosario Gomes [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 10:03:31 -0500
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Insult to Goans
Right Nea
Why Neal?
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From: "Neal Pinto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Insult to Goans
> Well I have a suggestion for a replacement picture to accompany the
"Native Wom
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Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 10:03:31 -0500
Right Neal! And didn't someone (Eddie?) write that the authorities should
apologize to this beautiful woman (with great jewelry that I very much
covet) for calling her Goan!?
Has anyone noticed the irony
ember 07, 2003 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Insult to Goans
> Helga!
>
> Far from the mark! what utter rubbish are you talking about? dear Helga.
> Read the original item and carefully analyse what is offensive or not. I
Helga do Rosario Gomes [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 16:03:37 -0500
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Insult to Goans
Why Neal?
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From: Helga do Rosario Gomes [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 10:03:31 -0500
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Insult to Goans
Right Neal!
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In response to Vivek's question as to why I did not reference a Konkani movie: I
regret to say that I've never seen a Konkani movie. :-(
I chose "Ms.Braganza" from KKHH because, from what I remember (I haven't seen the
movie in a while), she was depicted as being some sort of westernized
Everybody offended with the subject picture accompanying the article in the
Abu
Dhabi Airport magazine should write the Goa Tourism Development Corp
(http://www.goa-tourism.com/) at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or at their mailing
address:
Trionora Apartments,
Dr. Alvares Costa Road,
Panaji, GOA - 403 001.
Just my little bit to add to the current controversy.
In April 1999 (to think that I've been corresponding with strangers since
that long back!!) I wrote an e-mail to Rough Guides editor Arnold
Barkhordarian pointing out some factual errors in their Rough Guide to Goa
book.
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Dear A
rene barreto
www.goaday.com
- Original Message -
From: "Cecil Pinto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 7:02 AM
Subject: [Goanet]Insult to Goans - m
Wanting to be Goans is a dream of many. Especially
those from the sub continent. We have sikhs,
kashmiris, mallus, andras, bengalis, biharis, bangla
deshis, pakistanis, kannadigas, all wanting to be
Goans.
This effect has now taken toll on some design and
jewellery companies such as Cartier the ma
Original Message -
From: "Bernado Colaco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 4:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Goanet]INSULT TO GOANS and Cartier also shares the cake
> Wanting to be Goans is a dream of many.
> This effec
On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 04:47:26 + (GMT), Bernado Colaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> This effect has now taken toll on some design and jewellery companies such as
> Cartier the makers of famous time pieces. Their latest diamond and gem stone
> necklace is called Delices de Goa.
For those challen
Gabe,
By wearing the kashti I hope you are not going to
malign the image of true kasthi wears. Most of them
are/were six pack! :))
Colaco
> Perhaps when I next visit Goa I shall adorn a kashti
> and ask Cecil Pinto to
> do the same them we could be depicted as typical
> Goan folk Men!
>
>
>
Saturday, December 06, 2003 4:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Goanet]INSULT TO GOANS and Cartier also shares the cake
> Gabe,
>
> By wearing the kashti I hope you are not going to
> malign the image of true kasthi wears. Most of them
> are/were six pack! :))
>
> Colaco
>
>
>
>
ind it now.
Who has "borrowed" it from me?
Eddie Fernandes
- Original Message -
From: "renebarreto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 11:08 PM
Subject: [Goanet]Insult to Goans - my correspondence with Rough Gui
===
>
> No, I am not going to ask Bernardo any questions
> since his prejudices are
> not only proven but he is proud of them.
>
Mr. Eddie,
Please ask a Kenyan (African) the difference between a
Goan and a bharati and he will tell you
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