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Yesterday I was going through Frank Simoes's book,
Goa, formerly released as Glad Seasons in Goa, and the
chapter I read, Radhika's Genealogy Class, he pokes
fun at himself, giving twist to the abbreviation, OBC.
He tells his dauther, Radhika, it meansOpulent Brahmin
Class or Opulent Other Class
Hi Victor - thank you for your very interesting response.
I'd like to mention that I did receive a response to my original
question from Cecil Pinto, but somehow missed reading it. So I did get
at least one response shortly after posing the question.
Viviana
Victor Rangel-Ribeiro wrote:
CASTE in India and particularly in Goa is a curse to humanity. In North
America, this word has to be exemplified.
Religion is a way of life and private to each person and should be respected
by all. No missionaries - no conversion.
The religion and if you may say CASTE is human - human
Viviana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
By the way, a few months ago I asked if anyone on the list had married
outside of his/her caste and received no response.
Viviana (without caste!)
I would have liked to have responded to your query but did not quite know how.
Since I have never believed in
...Clinton wrote
Hello,
I read your advert on cybermatrimonials and have the following to say to you:
Shame on you!
It's a shame that you believe in caste in this day and age. I know not what my
caste is and am not interested in learning about that either. It is only small-
minded people that
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
Of Frederick Noronha (FN)
Sent: 09 July 2005 20:24
To: goanet@goanet.org
Subject: [Goanet]Re: Caste adverts
GL wrote: Fred's and other's caste-beef appears to be not for caste
but disparity in society. This issue of disparity is and will
always be there
Dear
GL wrote: Fred's and other's caste-beef appears to be not for caste
but disparity in society. This issue of disparity is and will
always be there
Dear GL:
Are you deliberately/unintentionally misquoting me, or have I expressed
myself so poorly, that I've confused my stand over the many
I would like to send you the following article from the U.S Library of
Congress
Quote
Although many other nations are characterized by social inequality, perhaps
nowhere else in the world has inequality been so elaborately constructed as
in the Indian institution of caste. Caste has long existed
: [Goanet]Re: Caste adverts - Viviana says Fire her! 2
jose colaco wrote:
I am glad that No One bothered to respond to such a casteist question from
Viviana. What do you mean by anyone married outside of his/her caste ?
Perhaps NO ONE cares about this racist humbug called caste.
From: Viviana
From: Viviana [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gee, Dr. Jose, thanks for clarifying that for me. And here I thought that
all who mentioned caste were doing so to support the practice. Silly me!
Good for you
Silly you fer true
jc
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jose colaco wrote:
JC responds,
Forget Wakey Wakey Dona Viviana . more appropriate to Read-ey
Read-ey.
The mention of caste in posts is NOT (I repeat NOT) synonymous with
support for the practice of Caste .
Gee, Dr. Jose, thanks for clarifying that for me. And here I thought
jose colaco wrote:
I am glad that No One bothered to respond to such a casteist question from
Viviana. What do you mean by anyone married outside of his/her caste ?
Perhaps NO ONE cares about this racist humbug called caste.
From: Viviana [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Right. That's why there's
jose colaco wrote:
I am glad that No One bothered to respond to such a casteist question
from Viviana. What do you mean by anyone married outside of his/her
caste ? Perhaps NO ONE cares about this racist humbug called caste.
Right. That's why there's never any mention of it on Goanet.
From: Viviana [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yes! I should be sacked immediately, I agree! :-)))
By the way, a few months ago I asked if anyone on the list had married
outside of his/her caste and received no response.
Viviana (without caste!)
===
I am glad that No One bothered to respond to such a
Appologies
Friends !
* If you are really against casteism, maybe you should
participate in educating people that this is a
dastardly discriminatory system * wrote Mario
Mario , I believe sums up the argument very well ,
mere words without any action is like a dripping tap
water dripping
--- Neil Rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My opinion is that caste can often (not always) act
as a good first filter towards finding a suitable
spouse
In general, I am personally against casteism,
Mario replies:
Neil,
If you are really against casteism, maybe you should
participate in
Re. the issue of casteism in matrimonial ads:
My opinion is that caste can often (not always) act as
a good first filter towards finding a suitable spouse
(I am speaking about Compatability here) from a large
pool of unknown suitors available, especially in
arranged marriages; which is why it
In my part of the world the association is called the
Indian Catholic Association. The extended community
are called GEMS, which stands for Goans, East Indians
and Mangaloreans. Non-GEMS are welcome to join. I
wouldn't know an African Goan from anyone else unless
he or she told me they lived
On 02/06/05, George Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Cornel Tony:
Thanks for the very informative posts. I notice many ex-East Africans Goans
write elegantly, your
schools taught well. Stylistically, you have much in common - including
Gabe, Milton, Eddie
Fernandes.
RESPONSE: What
Hi Cornel Tony:
Thanks for the very informative posts. I notice many ex-East Africans Goans
write elegantly, your
schools taught well. Stylistically, you have much in common - including Gabe,
Milton, Eddie
Fernandes.
I am curious now about the caste issue in Goan Associations in other
Avelino,
I think you need to take a refresher course in English
and writing before you continue to embarrass yourself
on Goanet. Anyone who reads your posts knows that you
understand little or nothing of what you read, cannot
respond in any sensible way to anything that has been
said and you
Mario,
You might be aware why nobody seems to bite your bait. I was late to
realize that the best medicine to deal with a sick person is to ignore
the 'rave and rant' totally!
Have a peaceful sleep with a well sharpened stake.
Avelino
Bastora/Kuwait
Mario Goveia [EMAIL
D'Souza, Avelino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Christianity existed in Goa much before the arrival
of Portuguese.
Mario replies:
I know Christianity existed in Kerala before the
Portuguese came to Goa, but not in Goa. Maybe other
Goan historians can clarify Avelino's version that
Christianity
Mario,
What's up Man! You are mixing catechism with history Man! Catechism
teaches Our Father, Hail Mary, I Believe, I Confess, Ten Commandments
etc. You have lost touch of reality Man! Goans Christians are part of
history lessons not catechism as you are implying. Christianity existed
in Goa
--- D'Souza, Avelino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mario,
The caste system, in your own words, has been around
5,000 years. I think it does have legitimacy and
respect from people who practice and who are keen in
keeping it alive. On the other hand, you don't want
to
explain to me the pros and cons
Mario,
The caste system, in your own words, has been around 5000 years. I
think it does have legitimacy and respect from people who practice and
who are keen in keeping it alive. On the other hand, you don't want to
explain to me the pros and cons of the caste system for reasons best
known to
Avelino,
For me to take time to explain to you the pros and
cons of the caste system would be giving the caste
system far too much respect and legitimacy. I am
headed in the opposite direction. This curious
request by you is like someone asking for an
explanation of the pros and cons of
I am determined to know the pros and cons of caste system. I had also
asked if caste system is really diabolical or the person's mindset,
power and affluence. Your lengthy post seems to conveniently avoid my
requests.
However, I did find your slogan, against caste, buried in your
innumerable
Avelino,
Since you seem determined to continue on this
approach, let me spell it out for you as there may be
others out there like you. We are talking about the
caste system in this thread, not all of society's
ills. The people's mindset, power and affluence may
be in play here, but the demon in
Mario, I wish you luck in your endeavor to get rid of the caste system.
I am still at a loss to comprehend how you will be confronting this
mammoth task.
Is it really the caste system which is diabolical or the people's
mindset, power and affluence?
Avelino
Bastora/Kuwait
_
Date:
--- Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
... being straight I am a great supporter of gay and lesbian rights. But the
quandary I
face is that by identifying myself as being straight am I in some way
suggesting I am
'superior' to someone who is gay? Am I being condescending in my
Goan Catholics non twice-born Hindus
Antonio Menezes ( January 27, 2005)
I thought it would be safer to use instead the words ''non
twiceborn'' to describe this
overwhelming majority of social class before their conversion to christianity.
Sachin Phadte (jan 27, 2005)
book with a longish
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