--- Anthony and Nolette de Souza
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, All!
>
> This is Martinho de Souza from Oz calling!
>
> Greetings from Down Under!
>
> While civilized foreign tourists and stayers are
> welcome in Goa, Goa should be there for Goans -
whether
> resident there or overs
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Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] GOA FOR GOANS!
> --- Anthony and Nolette de Souza
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hi, All!
> >
> > This is Martinho de Souza from Oz calling!
--- floriano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Goa has had 450 years of Portuguese rule sans
> corruption, sans
> manipulations, sans the race towards building vote
> banks.
> Goa's liberation saw the Indian so called democratic
> rule aka
> self-governance for the last 45 years.
> This Indian/self-gov
the helm of Goa's
> governance must be held in firm
> hands of Goans, not by Goans dictated to by the
> national parties like the
> Congress, the BJP, the NCP or the Janata Party etc.
> I am talking about
> Goa's own regional party.
>
> The concept of Goa for Goans must be forgotten once
> and
--- Bernado Colaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Nobody has asked the Portuguese to come back do not
> get confused. There was no libertation in 61 only
> failures. Big time corruption was bought by the
> congress dudes to bolster their party funds. This
> was
> done in Goa with the collaboratio
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Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] GOA FOR GOANS!
> --- floriano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Goa has had 450 years of Portuguese rule sans
> > corruption, sans
> > manipulations, sans the race towards
We have lotta culture now in Goa. Hypocrites in the US
return the land to the Indians!
BC
> Mario asks:
> >
> Floriano,
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Goa a COLONY of
> a
> third rate European country, acquired by force 450
> years ago, where there was no such thing as
> democratic
> rule,
Get your facts right about Goan history before making
vile statements. What democracy are we talking about?
BC
> >
> Mario observes:
> >
> Since Goa was a colony under the thumb of a third
> rate
> European colonial power that acquired the territory
> by
> force 450 years ago, and tried to han
Bernardo,
In addition to GOA FOR GOANS, it looks like you are
now proposing AMERICA FOR INDIANS? Maybe it has
escaped your attention that the US belongs to the
world, just as Canada, Australia and New Zealand.
>
However, I'll make you a deal. We will return the US
to the native Americans right af
Bernardo,
My facts are far straighter than your facts, about Goa
and anything connected with your curious "Goa for
Goans" campaign while living safely in the UK.
>
The fact that you still do not know that Goa was a
colony of a third rate European country and was
liberated in 1961, 14 years after th
Isn't it fair to stop lotta culture to which you
belong to coming to Goa?
Are you greeting the latinos at the Mexico/US border?
BC
> However, I'll make you a deal. We will return the
> US
> to the native Americans right after you Indian
> immigrants return the UK to the Brits. It is time
>
Honest candidates??? my bloody foot.
1. Honesty must be tested and tested right WITH A WRITTEN DOWN PROGRAMME.
That translates into the candidate saying what he/she will do and what
he/she will not do.
2. The prospective candidate must endorse the written down PROGRAMME.
3. He must not drive on t
--- Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bernardo,
> My facts are far straighter than your facts, about
> Goa
> and anything connected with your curious "Goa for
> Goans" campaign while living safely in the UK.
> >
Mario,
Are you saying that it is unsafe to live in Goa
because of the recen
--- Bernado Colaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Isn't it fair to stop lotta culture to which you
> belong to coming to Goa?
>
Mario responds:
>
Bernardo,
In a democracy like Goa, I don't know how even the
local Goans can stop any other Indian culture from
coming to Goa. How do you plan to do i
> >
> Mario replies:
> >
> There are two kinds of Latinos coming across the US
> border, legal immigrants and illegal immigrants. I
> gladly greet the legal immigrants because I am one
> myself. I also welcome their culture, because it
> makes the US a more wonderful place.
> >
Legal immigran
I just returned from Goa - no sign of any communal
riots. It is perfectly safe to live there, even with
all those diabolical "Indians" who are pouring into
Goa, while you Portuguese Goans live elsewhere and
pretend to be interested in Goa. From Vagator to
Palolem Goa was booming with economic act
--- Bernado Colaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Legal immigrants when Goa is illegaly occupied? Goa
> is almost free for all.
>
Mario observes:
>
Bernardo,
I think you may agree that the Portuguese illegally
came to Goa in 1510 WITHOUT ANY VISAS, and were
finally DEPORTED in 1961, leaving a bi
You doing all the cleaning of the railway tracks in
mumbai innit mate?
Secular are getting at each others throats.
Servants in the 21 century? Are you still lingering
with colonialism?
BC
--- Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- Bernado Colaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
Bernardo,
It looks like you have been associating with the
Cockneys a little too much, "innit mate(?)".
>
As I recently advised some of the other Goan
expatriates like Cornel, Valmiki and Gabriel, India
and Goa are dangerous and hazardous places for those
who have become overly fastidious and delic
Bernado,
Don't cause yourself an injury. Mario obviously does
not know what he's writing about. He's writing about
village life, when most towns in India were no better.
Visas in 1510? A de A didn't require one (even if they
were in the habit of issuing such) as he was invited
by Timoja.
Mess?
--- Gabriel de Figueiredo wrote:
>
> Bernado,
>
> Don't cause yourself an injury. Mario obviously
> does not know what he's writing about. He's writing
> about village life, when most towns in India were no
> better.
>
Mario observes:
>
The amusing revisionist nostalgia for colonial
subservienc
> >
> Gabriel is wrong about colonial Goa being like most
> Indian towns. I grew up in a medium sized Indian
> town
> and know that most of Goa under the Portuguese was
> more like an Indian village rather than any Indian
> town, because the Brits had done a far superior job
> in
> India than the
--- Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The amusing revisionist nostalgia for colonial
> subservience continues unabated.
It is not revisionist nostalgia - I lived there at the
time, so did a lot of people still in Goa. Ask the 70
and 80-year-olds who graduated through Liceu and the
Escol
--- Gabriel de Figueiredo wrote:
>
> And on a converse issue, I was also told by
> this person that the Brits really ill-treated the
> Indian taxi drivers prior to 1947, something that
> never even happened in Goa.
>
Mario observes:
>
Gabriel, of all your claims this one is really
pathetic. Why
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Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] GOA FOR GOANS! - final
> --- Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > The amusing revisionist nostalgia for colonial
> > subservience continues unabated.
>
--- floriano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> MINUS THE PORTUGUESE, GOA VERY BADLY NEEDS THE
> ERSTWHILE PORTUGUESE RULE BACK IN PLACE.
>
> For that to happen in Goa, and for it to have a
> cleansing effect on the political scene in the
> COUNTRY,
>
Mario observes:
>
Floriano,
I think you may agre
ust like in Singapore.
Have you??
rgds
Floriano
goasuraj
check-out the Road Map for Goa at www.goasu-raj.org
- Original Message -
From: "Mario Goveia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!"
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 7:51 A
Floriano,
My reference to Portugal as a third rate European
country was somewhat tongue-in-cheek. Let me assure
you that I love Portugal and the Portuguese, whom I
will defend as the least racist of all Europeans or
any other people for that matter, and they have a
"susegad" outlook on life that i
quot;
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] GOA FOR GOANS! - final
> Floriano,
> My reference to Portugal as a third rate European
> country was somewhat tongue-in-cheek. Let me assure
> you that I love Portugal and the Portuguese, whom I
> will defend
On 14/03/06, Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Floriano,
> My reference to Portugal as a third rate European
> country was somewhat tongue-in-cheek. Let me assure
> you that I love Portugal and the Portuguese, whom I
> will defend as the least racist of all Europeans or
> any other people
Floriano,
You are a gentleman and a scholar.
>
Mario.
--- floriano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear Mario,
>
> Thank you for opening a larger view-window to life.
> I am a trained ex-merchant marine officer where
> discipline is grilled in
> one's bones. And my view of the world is always
> tin
March 16, 2006 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] GOA FOR GOANS! - final
> Floriano,
> You are a gentleman and a scholar.
> >
> Mario.
>
> --- floriano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Dear Mario,
> >
> > Thank you for opening a larger view-window to life.
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