[Goanet] Mangalore - help needed

2007-12-25 Thread JoeGoaUk
We are soon thinking to visit Mangalore for the first time. Your help in needed.. Tourist spots Sight seeing Sea food restaurant (Goan style if any) Good Hotels (price range upto Rs.700 per day) a paid-guide (if any) Any other tourist related info Thanks for your help. We are likely to leave s

[Goanet] *HAPPY BIRTHDAY FRED!!*

2007-12-25 Thread Francis Rodrigues
26 December, 2008. Fred Noronha's birthday has been one of Goanet's best kept secrets. Until today. We just couldn't let it pass! "MANY, MANY HAPPY RETURNS OF THE DAY, FRED!!" Frederick N.J. Noronha and I became acquainted in the first days of IRC chat over a dozen years ago - the rudimentary

[Goanet] social activist albertina almeida berieved

2007-12-25 Thread Pamela D'Mello
Maria Therezinha Sabiencia Ba Peidade Morais e Almeida (75), wife of late Higino Xavier Almeida and mother of social activist and lawyer Albertina Almeida, passed away peacefully this morning 26 December 2007. Maria Therezinha retired as archivist at the Goa Archives department. Funeral will leav

[Goanet] THE YEAR OF HOPE

2007-12-25 Thread Averthan D'Souza
For favour of publication, please. Averthanus _ THE YEAR OF HOPE. Averthanus L. D'Souza. The Christmas season, with good wishes flying all over the globe thanks to the internet, makes one wonder about the continuance of so much hatred and narrow-mindedness still perv

Re: [Goanet] Portrait of a Gaudi

2007-12-25 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- "Rajan P. Parrikar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Following his powers of deduction, the last cited >example was an obvious superficial ploy to >paint myself - an RSS/BJP/VHP/VKR/XVA/G2S fanatic - >as a secular, tolerant individual. > I feel a little guilty to accept so much praise for so li

Re: [Goanet] the festival of giving & receiving OR 'FESTIVAL OF SHARING'

2007-12-25 Thread C Fernandes
I believe in 'the festival of sharing' instead of 'the festival of giving & receiving (trading)'. The joy of sharing is much greater than the limited happiness of 'giving & receiving'. Rejoice life in sharing! Cip --- Pravin Sabnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Vinda Karindikar, the Jnanpith

Re: [Goanet] Some scenes of the Midnight Mass (Dec 24, 2007)

2007-12-25 Thread Rajan P. Parrikar
To Goanet - Frederick Noronha mischievously wrote: >Very nice pictures, as usual technically perfect. But if I could allow my >mean side to show, and raise a non-inconsequential query... on what basis >did you opt for these three villages (over others)? Was it random, >geography-based (in which ca

[Goanet] Azadi express a train going no where!

2007-12-25 Thread Bernado Colaco
As far as Goa is concerned The azadi express took Goa to a dark blind spot. Many thought that the so called 'liberation' would end the casta sistema. But it has not. Bahujan Samaj was used to separate Goans. Donkey such as Lohia fooled the equally donkeys of our land to future less Goa. The s

Re: [Goanet] Prmoting caste blindness - to Victor

2007-12-25 Thread Victor Rangel-Ribeiro
--- Roland Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Victor, > The last sentence "there's room for everybody who > lives a good life" is your > own interpretation. That is not part of the passage. > > The reading is : > In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were > not so, I would have to

Re: [Goanet] GMAS to tourists: "Leave Goa by Dec 27"

2007-12-25 Thread Rajan P. Parrikar
To Goanet - Miguel Braganza wrote: >the truth will not be hidden for too long. You mean, like the truth about GBA's bogus "apolitical" claim that could not be hidden for long? I agree. If Matanhy Saldanha does adopt violent means, we will know soon. >Matanhy has never been as smart as he th

Re: [Goanet] Portrait of a Gaudi - too much gadbud about nada

2007-12-25 Thread Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोंया
The issue is not about it being derogatory, but more a question of definition and exclusion. Why is a Gaudi just described as a Gaudi, and a Bamon or Chardo usually portrayed as a "Goan"? Isn't this patronising? Wonder if it would be acceptable to describe someone as a "White Australian" ... try i

Re: [Goanet] Caste System - The Healing Process - Roland

2007-12-25 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
Hi Roland, Happy Holidays. Thank you for your response and for accepting the fairness of my question. That was prompted by the two-group 'comparison' in your extended family that you voluntarily wrote about. Yet, I am surprised by your hesitancy to provide full disclosure after opening the two

[Goanet] Hindu caste thrives in the UK

2007-12-25 Thread Bernado Colaco
Hi Cornel, I believe one way to level is via enterprise. Those of different denominations who went to the Gulf are fooled by the current leaders of Goa. A Gulf person has enough to start some kind of activity but where is the government? BC To reiterate, yet again, I only confined myself to t

Re: [Goanet] Some scenes of the Midnight Mass (Dec 24, 2007)

2007-12-25 Thread Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोंया
Very nice pictures, as usual technically perfect. But if I could allow my mean side to show, and raise a non-inconsequential query... on what basis did you opt for these three villages (over others)? Was it random, geography-based (in which case, why skip out in-between villages), and purely coinci

Re: [Goanet] Who SEZ violence is necessary?

2007-12-25 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- Aniruddha Sen Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > One of the favoured threats of many of today's > politicians is the one expressed by the GMAS leaders > -- that "we shall not be responsible for the > violence that follows". It's a threat which seeks to > pre-absolve the people making the thre

[Goanet] the festival of giving & receiving

2007-12-25 Thread Venantius Pinto
__ > From: Pravin Sabnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> amchya manavar sadavala aahe > (sounded/ reached out to our minds, amchea monnar sad gatla): > Vinda Karindikar, the Jnanpith award winning Marathi poet, wrote a lovely > verse > ?Denarreani det zaave, G

[Goanet] Remo: "Stay Away to Save Goa"

2007-12-25 Thread Rajan P. Parrikar
http://www.timesnow.tv/Newsdtls.aspx?NewsID=5111 Remo Fernandes, a popular pop star and playback singer from the state of Goa, has added his voice to the 'Save Goa Campaign' and has made an appeal to Indian and foreign tourists to stay away away from Goa this year in order to keep the state ali

Re: [Goanet] The caste debate on Goanet..

2007-12-25 Thread Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोंया
Are the college kids you refer to from the sub-altern end of Goa's caste stratification? Or are you saying that the people at the "top" have worked out some modus vivendi among themselves, where money can buy legitimacy? FN On 25/12/2007, Jason Monserrate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear Vivian

Re: [Goanet] [Goanet-News] Bringing Sorpotel to your END!

2007-12-25 Thread John DSouza
Dear friends, I DO NOT see any humour in bringing our national and well-loved dish into ridicule. I do not speak for the readers but I think such material should not grace the the airwaves of cyberspace through Goanet. Warm regards, John F.D'Souza --- Goanet Reader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[Goanet] Who's coming?

2007-12-25 Thread Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोंया
"Who's coming?", I asked Bosco. My reference was about the Goanetters meet scheduled for Miramar (Foodland) at 4.30 pm on Thursday Dec 27, 2007. Goanet admin team member from Toronto Bosco D'Mello told me Marlon Menezes, a very old time Goanetter and founder of Goacom.org (apart from the GoanWeb

[Goanet] Goa Maroons knocked out in first round: NYC Rolling Trophy

2007-12-25 Thread gaspersWorld
Kuwait City: Curtorcares United stunned star studded United Friends Club (UFC) 4-0 on a cold and windy Friday morning while formidable GOA Maroons lost out to Kuwait Goan Association (KGA) 2-0 in the 18th Edition of NYC Rolling Trophy tournament being played at Salmiya Grounds, Salmiya. NYC Rollin

Re: [Goanet] The Mahatma Returns

2007-12-25 Thread Santosh Helekar
So the itch for preserving the purity of Goan identity does not have a reasoned argument in its defense. It has to be supported literally by invoking the bull, the shedding of tears and other forms of emotional expression. One obvious fact that I forgot to point out was that the fundamental duties

[Goanet] Mathany, Go Belt Them

2007-12-25 Thread Deelip Menezes
Via http://www.deelipmenezes.com/2007/12/mathany-go-belt-them.html When I read Mathany Saldanha's statement asking tourists to leave Goa, I was disappointed and at the same time, a bit amused as well. I don't think I need to tell you why I was disappointed. The amusing part is more interesting.

[Goanet] Goa news for December 26, 2007

2007-12-25 Thread Goanet News Service
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Sea Harrier crashes in Goa, pilot safe - NDTV.com [Dec 24, 2007] Indian Navy's Sea Harrier fighter aircraft crashed while landing at the Dabolim Naval Air Station in Goa early on Monday. T

Re: [Goanet] The Healing Process & a Dying Race - Gilbert

2007-12-25 Thread Carvalho
--- Gilbert Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And we basically transmitted the same values, > beliefs and education systems to your generation, > that they transmitted to us. Is that too much to ask > the current 25 to 45 year old? We keep beating each > other about caste preference for mar

[Goanet] Gorai-Utan & SEZ

2007-12-25 Thread Rajan P. Parrikar
To Goanet - Today I received a moving email from one belonging to the original inhabitants of the Island of Mumbai. He wishes to remain anonymous. He said he occasionally reads Goanet and he felt motivated to write to me after reading my "SEZ is a monster, not a rat" remark here. For he sa

[Goanet] Happy New Year !

2007-12-25 Thread jose f p lourenco
      Joyous greetings to you for this festive season and may you have a Gorgeous Time in the New Year 2008! Here’s an update on the posts on my blogs. The blogs are updated at least twice a week. Do post a few comments or drop me a line. Blog posts on www.goanarchitecture.blogspot.com •

Re: [Goanet] GMAS asking tourists to 'Leave Goa by Dec 27' IS an act of violence

2007-12-25 Thread Miguel Braganza
Dears, As per the Digital Goa news on SMS, the Goa Police has filed a CRIMINAL case against Matanhy Saldanha under the Indian Penal Code [IPC] for inciting the people [to violence?]. Now that is no malicious propaganda. It is a statement of fact. The Chief Minister's reaction to Matanhy's threat

Re: [Goanet] Portrait of a Gaudi

2007-12-25 Thread Rajan P. Parrikar
To Goanet - Santosh Helekar wrote: >Even closer portraits merely serve to paint a >superficial public self-portrait of being egalitarian. >What is much harder is knowing what it is to be the >person in the portrait. I would have said putting >yourself in her shoes, but I realized that she has >spe

[Goanet] GMAS asking tourists to 'Leave Goa by Dec 27' IS an act of violence

2007-12-25 Thread J. Colaco < jc>
On 25/12/2007, Rajan P. Parrikar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I do not advocate the use of violent means in the fight against SEZs. And as I understand it, neither does Matanhy Saldanha, notwithstanding the malicious propaganda unleashed here by the likes of Miguel Braganza. Calling on the tourists

Re: [Goanet] GMAS to tourists: "Leave Goa by Dec 27"

2007-12-25 Thread Miguel Braganza
Dear Rajan Parrikar, As you may be aware, I am no suckling babe not to understand what Matanhy Saldanha has said. 1. it **"could take an ugly turn"**. 2. **different forms of protest, which may affect the tourists** 3. any **untoward incident** Matanhy was also present at a previous GMAS Press c

[Goanet] Triangulation and Mitigation (III)

2007-12-25 Thread Philip Thomas
MSN version (extract): With Monday's crash, the total number of Sea Harriers with the navy has come down to 13. Since 1983, seven pilots have died in 17 crashes involving the Sea Harrier. India inducted a fleet of 30 Sea Harriers in 1983, using 25 of these for operational flying and the remaining t

[Goanet] Who SEZ violence is necessary?

2007-12-25 Thread Aniruddha Sen Gupta
One of the favoured threats of many of today's politicians is the one expressed by the GMAS leaders -- that "we shall not be responsible for the violence that follows". It's a threat which seeks to pre-absolve the people making the threat. It's self-evident that when such a statement is made, viole

[Goanet] Chardi Behaviour nothing to do with Caste - to Joegoa

2007-12-25 Thread Edward Desilva
Jogoa said: Where as the other Chardi people automatically went to the right hall. As teenagers, we really did not take this that bad because we knew they were from higher class. What really shocking or insulting was this.. He heard the noises of crockery and cutlery in the chardi hall, we said ?A

Re: [Goanet] SEZ Movement....matter of vision

2007-12-25 Thread Rajan P. Parrikar
To Goanet - >The GBA was ...and remains... an Apolitical grouping of individuals >concerned about Goa. Not true, unless you have your own private definition of "apolitical." The GBA never was, and so has not remained, "apolitical." The co-convener of GBA, Shridhar Kamat, was public unmasked a

[Goanet] Re Closing Reflections

2007-12-25 Thread CORNEL DACOSTA
Hi Valmiki I refer to your post to me on Closing Reflections dated 22 Dec 2007. Thank-you so much! I had responded to it briefly but have now had the time to read it carefully. I could pick a lot of holes in it but will confine myself to just one of your points. I believe you have given the a

[Goanet] GRAF Koonkani writing Contest results

2007-12-25 Thread Fausto Da Costa
Octaviano Fernandes bags first prize in GRAF's Literary Contest. Following is the result of the Konkani Literary contest organized by GRAF (Goan Review Art Foundation) a cultural body of the Konkani- English bi-monthly - The Goan Review published from Mumbai: Essay: First prize: "Astitvachem Dor'

Re: [Goanet] Reply to Mr.Monteiro - a response to Albert - the last one, unless.............

2007-12-25 Thread JOHN MONTEIRO
You are of course correct, I do not get entangled in areas where I do not have much to contribute, if I was an expert on some of these subjects I certainly would have input much by now, but I am an avid reader of the majority of posts on this forum, for they are the experts in the field, about S

Re: [Goanet] Midnight Mass.......

2007-12-25 Thread JOHN MONTEIRO
Lovely photos. But the last one, of the man asleep, fully clothed & on the floor outside . overcome with the celebrations for joy of the birth of Jesus I assume.. John Monteiro 25.12.0710.52 (UK) "Rajan P. Parrikar" http://www.parrikar.org/images/samples/x

[Goanet] the festival of giving & receiving

2007-12-25 Thread Pravin Sabnis
Vinda Karindikar, the Jnanpith award winning Marathi poet, wrote a lovely verse “Denarreani det zaave, Ghenearani ghet zaave… Ghenearani gheta gheta… Denarraiche haat ghyave!” The verse has a wonderful meaning that goes like this… "May the donor continue his giving, May the recipient keep on recei

[Goanet] The caste debate on Goanet.. - to Jogoa and Vivian

2007-12-25 Thread edward desilva
Vivian Said: While initially a proponent on GoaNet of bringing the subject of caste and the skeletons of casteeism out of our closetsl I am wondering if this thread will ever end. I dont mean to make light of the subject. To those who were impacted by casteeism, the subject I am sure is extr

[Goanet] Octaviano Fernandes bags first prize in GRAF's Literary Contest

2007-12-25 Thread Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com
Octaviano Fernandes bags first prize in GRAF's Literary Contest Following is the result of the Konkani Literary contest organized by GRAF (Goan Review Art Foundation) a cultural body of the Konkani- English bi-monthly - The Goan Review published from Mumbai: Essay: Firs

[Goanet] Promoting Caste Blindness - to Roland

2007-12-25 Thread edward desilva
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU ALL AND SPECIAL THANKS TO ALL GOANET MODERATORS FOR PUTTING UP WITH US. -- Roland said: Now my point is that however much I am loathe to say this, Bhandare is right. The bible does say that the only way to salvation is through faith in Jesus Christ.

[Goanet] Advice to Mahatany_Maha kiten?

2007-12-25 Thread Venantius Pinto
Hello John Silva, It is Matanhy, and not Mahatany. I am feeling a bit too happy, having got home at a glorious post 2 am, so immediately saw something amusing, and educative in your construction of "Mahatany." Maha +tan (y) -- Great thirst (or one who is thirsting [for havoc?!]) Maha + tan -- Grea

[Goanet] Aura Melisa's advice to Mathany!!!

2007-12-25 Thread Dr. U. G. Barad
Aura Melisa on December 25, 2007 the day of Christmas has sent 3 gifts to Mr. Mathany on the issue of SEZ under title Advice to Mahatany (which should have been written as Mathany!). The very fact Aura wrongly spelt Mathany's name appears to me that Aura was in hurry sending 3 gifts. First let m

Re: [Goanet] Re Closing Reflections

2007-12-25 Thread Valmiki Faleiro
Dear Cornel, You don't hurt me one bit. Yours is just the kind of reaction I wanted to elicit -- I know it hurts when you are reminded of unpleasant personal possibilities, when one is perched on a high pedestal and lectures (purely verbal) on an anti-caste crusade. That's the reason I chose to r

[Goanet] Some scenes of the Midnight Mass (Dec 24, 2007)

2007-12-25 Thread Venantius Pinto
Rajan, Superb exposures of some Outstanding Catholics*. The aadvo ("reclining" one) is an image to be treasured. Hope he did not catch pneumonia. venantius * those standing outside the church. > From: "Rajan P. Parrikar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Saw the midnight mass at three places - Saligao, Moira,

[Goanet] The Greatest Gift - Merry Christmas to You

2007-12-25 Thread edward lopes
Dear All Wishing you and your family a very Merry Christmas *I do not need to ponder now What Christmas gift I'd like For God's already blessed me With all He knew was right And so at Christmas I enjoy This gift from Him the more Because He chose it just for me As the very best of all So

Re: [Goanet] Hindu caste system thrives in the UK!

2007-12-25 Thread CORNEL DACOSTA
Hi Gilbert Firstly, I have stated repeatedly that caste among millions of Hindus is not my immediate concern. My concern is specifically to do with so called 'Catholic' Goans simply because of the incompatibility between caste belief and Catholic belief and I asked you to address this issue--