Re: [Goanet] India, the hype and the reality... (Radharao Gracias)

2010-07-06 Thread Nascy Caldeira
Vasant Baliga, I have spoken re the present status in Australia and in India. The racism that was in Australia ahs been dealt with and certain measures taken, to address these issues. History of racism in Australia yes; nowaadys NO! I do not see or feel it. These days and for many years now,

Re: [Goanet] India, the hype and the reality... (Radharao Gracias)

2010-07-06 Thread Nascy Caldeira
--- On Mon, 5/7/10, Santosh Helekar wrote: > From: Santosh Helekar > Subject: Re: [Goanet] India, the hype and the reality... (Radharao Gracias) > To: " estb. 1994!Goa's premiere mailing list" > Received: Monday, 5 July, 2010, 4:53 AM > Nascy, > > What you hav

Re: [Goanet] India, the hype and the reality... (Radharao Gracias)

2010-07-05 Thread Jim Fernandes
York. --- On Mon, 7/5/10, Vasant Baliga wrote: > From: Vasant Baliga > Subject: [Goanet] India, the hype and the reality... (Radharao Gracias) > To: "Goanet" > Date: Monday, July 5, 2010, 12:20 AM > Dear Santosh,I think you are wasting > your time with probably w

[Goanet] India, the hype and the reality... (Radharao Gracias)

2010-07-04 Thread Vasant Baliga
Dear Santosh,I think you are wasting your time with probably with what appear to be closed and prejudiced minds-1.Mr Nascy Caldeira had this to say in a recent post where he attacked Hinduism in general-not sure if they are India baiters or India haters and actually seem to despise India-and can

Re: [Goanet] India, the hype and the reality... (Radharao Gracias)

2010-07-04 Thread Santosh Helekar
Nascy, What you have written below and in an accompanying post is utter rubbish. You are fixated on what people eat, and how they dress. If they eat and dress like you, you call them civilized. Talk about mono-cultural, this is mono-maniacal stupidity. I am quite certain that the Australian pro

Re: [Goanet] India, the hype and the reality... (Radharao Gracias)

2010-07-04 Thread Nascy Caldeira
Santosh, I asked U about the stalwarts,that U mention and U are saying that I said they are philosophers. Are they philosophers is what I meant asking you, OK? I acknowledge and so does the world that India has produced many a mathemathical genius and many a science genious too; but what great

Re: [Goanet] India, the hype and the reality... (Radharao Gracias)

2010-07-04 Thread Nascy Caldeira
Santosh, U are definitely on the back foot here! U are deliberately distorting what JIm has said. I too will support all that Jim has written, and I kow about these two great persons he mentions. But my point is made that there was nothing 'original' in their doscoveries and or inventions, only

Re: [Goanet] India, the hype and the reality... (Radharao Gracias)

2010-07-03 Thread Santosh Helekar
Good to know that, unlike Nascy, Jim has heard of two Indian scientists mentioned by me. But from the earlier claim of zero contributions by Indians we now have the goal post being moved to lack of proportional contribution. Is this supposed to be contribution per capita or contribution per capi

Re: [Goanet] India, the hype and the reality... (Radharao Gracias)

2010-07-03 Thread Jim Fernandes
have our roots there. Jim F New York. --- On Fri, 7/2/10, Santosh Helekar wrote: > From: Santosh Helekar > Subject: Re: [Goanet] India, the hype and the reality... (Radharao Gracias) > To: " estb. 1994!Goa's premiere mailing list" > Date: Friday, July 2, 2010, 1:50

Re: [Goanet] India, the hype and the reality... (Radharao Gracias)

2010-07-03 Thread Santosh Helekar
As I have said before, criticism has to be legitimate and substantive. It has to result from a genuine appraisal of facts. Criticism borne out of ignorance, prejudice or political bias is worthless. It misdirects our efforts at finding remedies, and contributes to the perpetuation of ignorance a

Re: [Goanet] India, the hype and the reality... (Radharao Gracias)

2010-07-03 Thread Frederick Noronha
On 30 June 2010 02:34, Santosh Helekar wrote: > But I am sure most readers of the article have > more sense than to believe any aspect of the > cartoonish picture sketched by it. Contributions to human > civilization involve much more than military > prowess and scoring goals - indeed, much more

Re: [Goanet] India, the hype and the reality... (Radharao Gracias)

2010-07-03 Thread Santosh Helekar
Nascy, Here is why it is you, in addition to the corrupt politicians and some irresponsible Indians, who bring shame to India. 1. You are completely clueless about the great stalwarts of 20th century India, who were mathematical and scientific geniuses, and whose work contributed to the techno

Re: [Goanet] India, the hype and the reality... (Radharao Gracias)

2010-07-03 Thread Nascy Caldeira
Santosh, U mention great stalwarts, but U do not say what if anything 'original' they discovered or invented. Philosophers are found in thousands all over the world, and they are unproductive. Secondly U say that me and Jim type are divorced from Indian reality, India and ungrateful; for what?

[Goanet] India, the hype and the reality... (Radharao Gracias)

2010-07-02 Thread Marshall Mendonza
Radharao Gracias: Will the RSS at least now prove its patriotism and provides its cadres for recruitment into the army? It is time that the Sangh Parivar cadres display their patriotism on the Indo-Pak border! That is where the threat lies. Response: I am reminded of an incident narrated by J F Ri

Re: [Goanet] India, the hype and the reality... (Radharao Gracias)

2010-07-02 Thread Santosh Helekar
One of the misfortunes of India is Indians like Nascy who have never had any attachment to their motherland or their fellow countrymen, let alone any sense of pride, responsibility or duty towards them. In my opinion, along with corruption and other ills, the disgraceful attitude displayed, time

Re: [Goanet] India, the hype and the reality... (Radharao Gracias)

2010-07-01 Thread Nascy Caldeira
> Subject: Re: [Goanet] India, the hype and the reality... (Radharao Gracias) >> I don't give much importance to the > invention of "zero" by an ancient Indian to arithmetic. If > the decimal numbering system was the only system humans > used, maybe one could argu

[Goanet] India, the hype and the reality... (Radharao Gracias)

2010-06-30 Thread manuel tavares
What a superb , well thought, balances and truthfully analytic portrayal of ourselves. People across the whole Political, Social and Cultural spectrum of Indian society ought to read this and draw inspiration from the pearls of wisdom which are thrown here as a challenge to Indians one and all

Re: [Goanet] India, the hype and the reality... (Radharao Gracias)

2010-06-30 Thread Jim Fernandes
I don't give much importance to the invention of "zero" by an ancient Indian to arithmetic. If the decimal numbering system was the only system humans used, maybe one could argue on it's importance. The entire field of electronics and computer science uses binary, octal or hexa-decimal numb

Re: [Goanet] India, the hype and the reality... (Radharao Gracias)

2010-06-30 Thread Santosh Helekar
Thoughtful valid self-criticism is always welcome. Indeed it is essential for any kind of progress to occur. It is a hallmark of rational thought and scientific inquiry. But the article in question has very little to offer in this vein. On the contrary, as Amita Kanekar so nicely pointed out, i

Re: [Goanet] India, the hype and the reality... (Radharao Gracias)

2010-06-29 Thread Frederick Noronha
Easy to dismiss any criticism as "self-loathing", "smearing" etc. That way, almost anything could be dismissively cast aside and written away! Where's the space then for critical thought and questioning then? As far as Radha's point on the RSS goes, I saw it differently. He was merely pointing ou

Re: [Goanet] India, the hype and the reality... (Radharao Gracias)

2010-06-29 Thread Santosh Helekar
I am always amazed why people counter hyperbolic nonsense on one fringe with something even worse from the opposite fringe. In this article it looks like chauvinism is countered by self-loathing, using a rather constricted definition of greatness and progress. If, as the silly line of argument i

[Goanet] India, the hype and the reality... (Radharao Gracias)

2010-06-29 Thread Goanet Reader
We are not great, we have to strive to become great By Adv.Radharao F.Gracias It was sometime at the beginning of the nineteenth century that a soldier in Napoleon's army when asked to justify the incessant wars that France launched against its neighbours gave the classic reply which immortalized