Maybe persons like Helekar wanted to be bharats, but then he could go to
bharat. In 1961 Goa was invaded and thereafter were forced to become bharatis
by law which was rectified for forceful conversion of Goans into this barbaric
citizenship. No questions were asked to us Goans ie.: do you want
GOANS ARE NOT BHARATIS!
The name, Bharath, was used for the Republic of India. In the preamble to the
Constitution, the founding fathers used the term `INDIA THAT IS
BHARATH`. There is a particular and specific reason as to why this term
`India that is Bharath` was used in the first sentence
Please note that you have not discussed the forceful conversion of Goans to
become indian citizens. Please check the link provided earlier for reference.
BC
Colaco,
Are you now against invasion and conversion? When did you change your mind?
BTW, most of us Goans were always Bharatiya. Ple
Why was there no plebiscite to accept ghanti rule in 1962? Why was the opinion
poll orchestrated, and that too in 1967. This could only be the work of crooks
and criminals who came into Goa by force in 1961.
BC
> For that matter .. HOW does anyone KNOW what the majority of Goans wanted
Is it not Goans forced to be someone,
other than what one is;
Unjustified?
Read here what the President said:
http://www.dn.pt/inicio/opiniao/interior.aspx?content_id=1605529
Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.
Portugal and China had a contract over Macau. In 1975 Portugal already had
intentions of handing over Macau, but China said to wait and that they would
provide a proper date ie 1999. In case of Goa the illegal occupation continues
since 1961 and we still have bharati apologists who are blind to
I am afraid knowledge history of person below mentioned is bleak. UN documents
clearly show that GDD was invaded and continues occupied. Portugal tabled
motion in UN Security Council for withdrawal of the invaders. Soviet rascals
vetoed. Invaders continue occupying land. The info below is utter
Victor Rangel-Ribeiro
vrangelrib at yahoo.com
Mon Jan 14 09:12:21 PST 2013 wrote:
Dear Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcao,
Was it not unjustified when we were forced to become Portuguese, in an
overseas "province" no less, through Salazar's fiat?
Regards,
Victor
COMMENT:
Bosco D, bospam at gmail.com; Mon Jan 14 21:05:45 PST 2013, wrote:
Perhaps it is being suggested above that 13 years later, the
Portuguese took a page from the Goan/Indian playbook and purged the
dictator. No apothecary's prescription was required.
Ajeeb hai ye Goa ke log!!!
- B
RESPONSE
Bosco D bospam at gmail.com on Wed Jan 6 0::3::0 PST 013 wrote:
Ajeeb = Strange, Odd, Peculiar. Ajeeb hai ye Goa ke log =
Strange, these people of Goa...
Response: If Nehru said "Ajeeb hai ye Goa ke log"
It is obvious that he had found Goans not like the rest of the Bharatis.
That Goans were
Colaco,
Are you now against invasion and conversion? When did you change your mind?
BTW, most of us Goans were always Bharatiya. Please read your history.
Cheers,
Santosh
- Original Message -
From: Bernado Colaco
>
> Maybe persons like Helekar wanted to be bharats, but then he could
ists.goanet.org"
>Sent: Sunday, 6 January 2013 3:42 PM
>Subject: [Goanet] Goans forced to be bharatis
>
>Maybe persons like Helekar wanted to be bharats, but then he could go to
>bharat. In 1961 Goa was invaded and thereafter were forced to become bharatis
>by law which was
Yeah,
I wonder what were we Goans before European invasion if not Bharatiya
Hindu's.
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 7:35 AM, Bernado Colaco wrote:
> Please note that you have not discussed the forceful conversion of Goans
> to become indian citizens. Please check the link provided earlier for
> refere
That the Hindu majority, Goans too, needed to be coerced is news, big
news.
eric.
Please note that you have not discussed the forceful conversion of Goans to
become indian citizens. Please
Please recommend
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Bernado Colaco wrote:
> You should read the history books.
>
>*From:* Sandesh Anvekar
> *To:* Bernado Colaco ; "Goa's premiere mailing list,
> estb. 1994!"
> *Sent:* Monday, 7 January 2013, 13:20
> *Su
- Original Message -
From: Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão
>
> Therefore I reiterate that Goans are neither Bharatis
> nor Indians as both these entities did not exist prior to 1947.
>
What about Bengalis and Maharashtrians? Are they Indian?
Cheers,
Santosh
Dear Eric,
Without appearing to side with Ole_Xac who has not yet withdrawn the canard
that "jc was a member of Bandodkar's task force to impose Marathi on Goans".
(while jc was still in short pants), I'd like to ask this question of you: HOW
do you know for sure that Bernado is NOT right?
For
Original Message -
From: Jose Colaco
>
> For that matter .. HOW does anyone KNOW what the majority of Goans wanted
> in
> 1962?
>
One can know that the majority of Goans residing in Goa did not want to
renounce their decreed Indian citizenship, and register themselves as
Portug
NO My dear Santoshbab,
The only way one CAN definitively know of what the other wants IS to ask
him/her WHAT he/she wants.
The rest is pure assumption and conjecture.
jc
On Jan 8, 2013, at 1:20 AM, Santosh Helekar wrote:
> Original Message -
>
> From: Jose Colaco
>>
>> For that m
very thing
you accused JC of being?
Bernado! Bernado! Think, before you thimk! And thimk, before you write. Ay
ay ay!
Regards, anyway, for providing today's entertainment.
Victor
--- On Tue, 1/8/13, Bernado Colaco wrote:
From: Bernado Colaco
Subject: [Goanet] Goans forced to
" estb. 1994!Goa's premiere
mailing list"
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goans forced to be bharatis
Dear Bernado,
Once again, another example of your brilliant logic!
A plebiscite was not held in 1962; that would have given us Goans a chance
[1] jc: HOW does anyone KNOW what the majority of Goans wanted in 1962?
[2] Santoshbab: One can know that the majority of Goans residing in Goa did
not want to renounce their decreed Indian citizenship, and register themselves
as Portuguese nationals because they were given a chance to do thi
- Original Message -
From: Jose Colaco
>
> Am I correct in understanding that (say in 1962)
>
> a: Goans already had Portuguese nationality
> b: They have been 'decreed' to be Indian citizens
> c: They are now given the choice ie Accept it OR Get Lost from your Home
> (like
> Fr. Chic
did neither. Why just pin blame on
the Indian Union, and exonerate our Portuguese masters?
Regards,
Victor Rangel-Ribeiro
(Victor Rangel is/was my cousin)
--- On Wed, 1/9/13, floriano lobo wrote:
From: floriano lobo
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goans forced to be bharatis
To: "Goa'
I know that there are a few individuals in this forum who have trouble
understanding what is written in plain English. Josebab is not one of them. But
I submit that Josebab makes the mistake here of confusing my acceptance of the
reality of historical facts and actions with my approval of those
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www.goasu-raj.org
- Original Message -
From: "Victor Rangel-Ribeiro"
To: " estb. 1994!Goa's premiere mailing list"
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 12:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goans forced to be bharatis
Dear Mr. Froilano Lobo,
If you are going to revisit the missed
-
From: "Bernado Colaco"
To:
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 11:51 AM
Subject: [Goanet] Goans forced to be bharatis
I am afraid knowledge history of person below mentioned is bleak. UN
documents clearly show that GDD was invaded and continues occupied. Portugal
tabled motion in UN Securi
Assuming that both Non Goans and Europeans were equally aggressive and
destructive, I would opt to live (and die) with our Indians any day. If you
think otherwise,please get the hell out of here..
~Sandesh
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Bernado Colaco wrote:
> I am afraid knowledge history o
dos Reis Falcão
Subject: [Goanet] Goans forced to be bharatis
To: "goa...@goanet.org"
Date: Thursday, January 10, 2013, 3:44 PM
Is it not Goans forced to be someone,
other than what one is;
Unjustified?
Read here what the President said:
http://www.dn.pt/inicio/opiniao/interior.aspx
If one reads Goan history one will find out that Floriano Lobo is most likely
not a Goan based on the same tortuous historical logic that he and a few other
non-Goans use in this forum. But he and they are Indian by lineage and
tradition. Floriano is fighting for the independence of today's Goa
To:
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 12:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goans forced to be bharatis
-Original Message-
From: Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão
> And lastly, Salazar's dictatorial regime prevailed also in proper
Portugal; neither Spain nor
> France liberated it. The P
#x27;s fiat?
> Regards,
> Victor
>
>--- On Thu, 1/10/13, Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão
>wrote:
>
>From: Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão
>Subject: [Goanet] Goans forced to be bharatis
>To: "goa...@goanet.org"
>Date: Thursday, January 10, 2013, 3
This is a good attempt to sanitize purtugez history, avoiding the mention of
Acto Colonial of 1930, giving us proud Indians of Estado da India the status of
second class citizens, etc, etc.. This revisionist business is getting pretty
old now, but nonetheless is a veritable clown show.
Cheers,
Dear Dr Falcao,
I believe that you may NOT be right. It is my understanding, and I could be
wrong that Apothecaries (esp in the UK and Eire) are able to prescribe
jc
> Bosco wrote: No apothecary's prescription was required.
>
> Dr Falcao responded: Apothecary do not prescribe; they just d
Wednesday, 16 January 2013 6:08 PM
>Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goans forced to be bharatis
>
>This is a good attempt to sanitize purtugez history, avoiding the mention of
>Acto Colonial of 1930, giving us proud Indians of Estado da India the status
>of second class citizens, etc, etc.. Thi
g' ... "
Gabriel.
>
>From: Bosco D
>To: goa...@goanet.org
>Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2013 3:43 PM
>Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goans forced to be bharatis
>
>On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 9:29 AM, joe lobo wrote:
>
>**
>> Could
Parental guidance is required when you write. San - mean without , desh - is
country. Therefore sandesh is a person stateless. I hope you had a nice
Christmas. Now it is time for Kumbh Mela.
BC
Assuming that both Non Goans and Europeans were equally aggressive and
destructive, I would opt to
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